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I want Kuma and Bonney to get 90 percent of the way there and Luffy finishes the job for them.
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Nov 10, 2023 13:43
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Nika is gonna give Kuma a VIP Express Pass to Sun God Heaven after all this is done
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Nov 10, 2023 13:47
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Either way I wouldn't be surprised if this arc ends with one of the Elder Stars getting taken out (which would obviously cause another major shakeup in the world)
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Nov 10, 2023 13:48
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Larryb posted:Either way I wouldn't be surprised if this arc ends with one of the Elder Stars getting taken out (which would obviously cause another major shakeup in the world)
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Cat Machine posted:Do they have a succession plan? Feels like Garling could step up into one of those spots That sounds like a pretty good opportunity to naturally get some key exposition.
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Nov 10, 2023 14:18
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:if the age-age fruit doesn't stop the disease and Kuma took it into himself, I hope they tag-team kill Saturn by Kuma slamming him with the disease and then Bonny using her powers to speed up its progress, statueing him instantly
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Nov 10, 2023 16:19
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Supersonic Shine posted:The thing is, villains tend to not die in One Piece. Saturn can suffer a lot more if he stays alive. Though in terms of Im and the Elder Stars I’m not sure what a good alternative would be (they literally rule the world, would they really just give up after being beaten once?). That said, just giving him Bonney’s disease could work
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Nov 10, 2023 16:24
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Supersonic Shine posted:The thing is, villains tend to not die in One Piece. Saturn can suffer a lot more if he stays alive. big mom and kaidou are just holding their breath. we can't prove otherwise
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Nov 10, 2023 16:52
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Supersonic Shine posted:The thing is, villains tend to not die in One Piece. Saturn can suffer a lot more if he stays alive.
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Nov 10, 2023 16:59
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People die sometimes in One Piece and we’re near the end of the series, it’s ok if one of the big bad bosses behind everything is one of them
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Nov 10, 2023 17:45
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Saturn's dream is subjugation
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Nov 10, 2023 17:50
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whats this dream stuff people are talking about? like a metaphor for the devil fruits or something?
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TheKingofSprings posted:People die sometimes in One Piece and we’re near the end of the series, it’s ok if one of the big bad bosses behind everything is one of them oda has made a point of off-screening or killing the previous generation of pirates. given the themes around inherited will and generations picking up where their predecessors left off, i really think odas gonna wipe out a lot of the old guard in the final saga, villains included.
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My predictions for immediate events on Egghead once flashback is over: - Kuma arrives to save Bonney, he kills/hurts/delays Saturn enough that all the good guys are able to escape, but is mortally wounded in the process - The ancient robot that was just awakened simultaneously goes on a rampage; this allows the good guys to get away and also recover Kuma's body - VP having special knowledge of devil fruits explains how to extract Kuma's, with the intention of giving it over to the Straw Hats for safe keeping/use to fight the WG - Catarina and Laffitte show up and snag Kuma's fruit and/or grab something else valuable from Egghead (we saw that one of Blackbeard's ships was arriving to Egghead and these two are both unaccounted for AND happen to be the stealth experts among their crew) Sketchier speculation from here but this maybe sets up a chase or battle over the fruit, in any case I am starting to agree with the theory that Vivi will end up eating it. It's also possible that Blackbeard has realized he needs to capture Robin as the only person on the planet who can read the poneglyphs (I'm wondering too if VP has this ability having been to Ohara and having insane stores of knowledge, and if so if Blackbeard is savvy enough to know this; maybe Blackbeard's guys are there for either devil fruits or VP or both but are forced to compromise on what they get since the Straw Hats are there)
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Though when all is said and done I wonder if the WG is going to stick around in a more people friendly form without all the stuff like the Celestial Dragons and the like or if they’re just going to tear it all down and build a new government (or just let the local rulers govern their own countries) I doubt Luffy will ever stop being a pirate though (once he finds the One Piece and achieves his dream he’ll probably just sail off again on a new adventure). I could see the Strawhats being cleared of all charges thanks to their help in toppling the old regime but then Luffy purposefully doing something at the end to earn himself a new bounty Larryb fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Nov 10, 2023 |
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It is amazing that it was over a decade ago that someone speculated that Kuma should join the Strawhats because his fruit fits in with the crew based on numerology and now we're in a position where his ability might actually be passed on and the Strawhats are right there with the world's leading Devil Fruit expert. I still don't see how it will go down. Even if the Strawhats got the fruit, who would eat it? Franky rejected the idea of eating a fruit entirely on Dressrossa, and he's the only one tangentially related to all this. And no one else would make any more sense. But it's weird how close this all is, considering how long ago that speculation was highlighted by Oda (Volume 59 SBS, August 2010).
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Larryb posted:Though when all is said and done I wonder if the WG is going to stick around in a more people friendly form without all the stuff like the Celestial Dragons and the like or if they’re just going to tear it all down and build a new government (or just let the local rulers govern their own countries) It definitely seems to me like we are getting a setup where the WG is pretty much entirely parasitic to the rest of the world, and should just be destroyed forever. We see over and over that these "lesser" kingdoms basically get along fine, but countless problems are caused by the fact that they have to pay tribute and allow CDs to do whatever they want, at any time. The Marines are even positioned as being more of a separate entity than directly part of the WG, I could see an ending where they still exist to protect the common people from pirates but the WG ceases to exist. Every single thing we learn reinforces the message: The WG/celestial dragons do absolutely nothing for the world except make it worse. Frankly I hope it continues that way.
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Eiba posted:It is amazing that it was over a decade ago that someone speculated that Kuma should join the Strawhats because his fruit fits in with the crew based on numerology and now we're in a position where his ability might actually be passed on and the Strawhats are right there with the world's leading Devil Fruit expert. Nami maybe? Or perhaps Vivi could officially join the crew and take the fruit But yeah, Kuma joining up with them makes sense honestly
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kuma in the giant robot body joins the crew
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Eiba posted:It is amazing that it was over a decade ago that someone speculated that Kuma should join the Strawhats because his fruit fits in with the crew based on numerology and now we're in a position where his ability might actually be passed on and the Strawhats are right there with the world's leading Devil Fruit expert. Dr. Vegapunk’s green blood. Franky will get Kuma’s powers by sipping it like Mountain Dew.
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Eiba posted:I still don't see how it will go down. Even if the Strawhats got the fruit, who would eat it? Franky rejected the idea of eating a fruit entirely on Dressrossa, and he's the only one tangentially related to all this. And no one else would make any more sense. I think Vivi is the last chance for a "new" crew member and the paw paw fruit would be a sorely needed upgrade for her...
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It's going to be Vivi because she's already a crew member actually, she's just returned to the story after like half a decade at least, and the Nefertari line has been given major relevance with Lily and the fact that Vivi is technically a D.
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The Vivi piece that I'm still hung up on is, assuming she is going to meet back up with the Straw Hats, what interest Morgans and Wapol have in getting her there. Actually, never mind, Morgans is probably just chasing a hot scoop
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And I don't think Wapol entirely knows what's going on other than that very important people are probably mad at him
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Begemot posted:It definitely seems to me like we are getting a setup where the WG is pretty much entirely parasitic to the rest of the world, and should just be destroyed forever. We see over and over that these "lesser" kingdoms basically get along fine, but countless problems are caused by the fact that they have to pay tribute and allow CDs to do whatever they want, at any time. The Marines are even positioned as being more of a separate entity than directly part of the WG, I could see an ending where they still exist to protect the common people from pirates but the WG ceases to exist. So long as the Marines exist as a global anti-piracy organization and have to get funding from somewhere, some sort of world government will exist, even if it’s nominally a different entity from the current World Government. While I don’t expect Oda to go into too much depth about it, I suspect that the world order at the end of the story will still leave the sort of people who joined the Revolutionaries after Sabo’s “assassination” of Cobra complaining that the World Government wasn’t really overthrown.
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Eiba posted:It is amazing that it was over a decade ago that someone speculated that Kuma should join the Strawhats because his fruit fits in with the crew based on numerology and now we're in a position where his ability might actually be passed on and the Strawhats are right there with the world's leading Devil Fruit expert. Nika replaced Kuma's fruit in the numerology
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Could Wapol's devil fruit allow him to eat other devil fruits without dying? Other devil fruit users? I never got why suicide-happy Kaido never bothered trying to eat any other random devil fruit he came across.
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While Vivi is the natural contender for the last spot, this sequence could be set up for Bonney to join. Since Kuma does have a relationship with the strawhats and she is his daughter. If he is unable to help because of his injuries or he dies here, then she is likely to want to go in his place. Especially If/when she finds out that Luffy is the person her dad and everyone else has been waiting for all this time. Also if the Blackbeard pirates do end up stealing his fruit, then she would have a grudge against them as well as the world government. So Luffy's enemies are also her enemies in that case, which helps. Not saying this will for sure happen or anything, but it doesn't seem impossible.
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Desumaytah posted:Could Wapol's devil fruit allow him to eat other devil fruits without dying? Other devil fruit users? My impression of Kaido is that he didn't want to die to something that would guarantee his death, if that makes sense. He wanted to be defeated or overcome in some way, not just kill himself. I dunno if that actually tracks because the seeds for it were so long ago, but that's how my brain reconciles it, anyway
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mikeycp posted:i mean i think bonney is in the grand fleet regardless It would be nice to have a lady captain in the Straw Hat fleet.
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Eiba posted:It is amazing that it was over a decade ago that someone speculated that Kuma should join the Strawhats because his fruit fits in with the crew based on numerology and now we're in a position where his ability might actually be passed on and the Strawhats are right there with the world's leading Devil Fruit expert. Kild posted:Nika replaced Kuma's fruit in the numerology Luffy will eat it by accident and we'll get an explanation of how someone can have two fruits.
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it makes sense for vivi to get it because somehow lili spread the poneglyphs all over the world. this is borderline impossible through normal sailing.
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Arist posted:The Vivi piece that I'm still hung up on is, assuming she is going to meet back up with the Straw Hats, what interest Morgans and Wapol have in getting her there. If the WG wants your rear end the safest place to be is probably in the care of a friendly emperor
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Kild posted:Nika replaced Kuma's fruit in the numerology ... but here we are, conceivably close to that prediction in a scenario that undoubtedly has been planned out for a long, long time. Of all the fruits, how crazy is that? I don't think it's very likely that anyone on the crew will get the fruit, but it's weird that it's so close and it's fun to speculate about. anime was right posted:it makes sense for vivi to get it because somehow lili spread the poneglyphs all over the world. this is borderline impossible through normal sailing.
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Arist posted:My impression of Kaido is that he didn't want to die to something that would guarantee his death, if that makes sense. He wanted to be defeated or overcome in some way, not just kill himself. If you outlast two dream devils while they're having a last-man-standing match in your soul, is that not a victory worth celebrating? I mean, gently caress, he went ahead and fell from the sky. Why not try it? Why not just eat one devil fruit and walk into the ocean and see if your lungs can win the war of attrition? Kaido was a coward who romanticised getting his rear end kicked to death when he'd already given up on life, and this stems from his fear of intimacy 
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kaido wasnt committing suicide he was doing self-harm out of depression
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TheKingofSprings posted:If the WG wants your rear end the safest place to be is probably in the care of a friendly emperor Especially one that’s tangled with the Celestial Dragons, multiple emperors/big name pirates/high ranking Marines, and probably an Elder Star before long and not only lived to tell the tale but came out on top pretty much every single time Plus with everything going on Vivi’s got a good reason to join the Strawhats now (the WG killed her dad after all). I’m particularly curious how her reunion with Robin is gonna go down and what she’ll think of Franky, Brook, and Jinbe Larryb fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Nov 10, 2023 |
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TheKingofSprings posted:If the WG wants your rear end the safest place to be is probably in the care of a friendly emperor Larryb posted:Especially one that’s tangled with the Celestial Dragons, multiple emperors/big name pirates/high ranking Marines, and probably an Elder Star before long and not only lived to tell the tale but came out on top pretty much every single time This reconciles Shanks being raised by Roger, as well as Shanks successfully taking a whole shitload of oppressed/weak crews under his wing. Maybe he's a good guy after all! Or maybe he's just setting up the biggest Celestial hunt ever to prove his worth to his real dad! Maybe you can even bag a Sun God, if you're strong enough! Desumaytah fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Nov 10, 2023 |
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