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Justaddwater
Jul 4, 2006

floppyspud posted:

goons haven't really split into multiple alliances, there just are not a lot of actual goons playing these days. Basically, the goon groups are as follows:

Goonswarm Federation: (also known as Goonswarm, Goonwaffe, or GoonFleet) is the most well-known one, and the one you would've seen in the video. 99% of the people in it now are pubbies.

Clockwork Pineapple: is/was a goon group, and is now thoroughly dead.

Goosefleet: is a newish goon group (circa 2022,) and does a bunch of different stuff with most of the games goon population. They're cool (I'm in them currently.)

ISRAD is still around. We recently moved from Snuff to BIGAB.

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Cast_No_Shadow
Jun 8, 2010

The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

Potato Salad posted:

I think it's fair to say that Groomswarm was bad, but a lot of the galaxy was abundantly worse, and the contrast let them skate by

how are things going these days? not just with "we finally deposed the sex pest" but with the casual transphobia and other general insecure chuddism

We made a new Corp, without bigotry, dogknapping or sex pests.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

Justaddwater posted:

ISRAD is still around. We recently moved from Snuff to BIGAB.

Cool, I haven’t seen you guys around. Got a PGS thread?

Mappo
Apr 27, 2009
I couldn’t sleep so I stayed up and watched the rest of that 6 hour EVE Online documentary. I got emotional at the end when the last track was called “Home”. I’ve put off writing this post for about a year now and I’m going to do it.

I’ve played this game on and off or followed it in some form for nearly 20 years, that’s almost my entire adult life. This stupid terrible spaceship game had a massive impact on my life and weirdly enough for the better. As I creep towards middle age, I actually like who I am and I feel that I have EVE to thank for that.
I joined Goonfleet sometime after they had moved into Deklin and found that peacetime in Null Sec was not something I could really do. I won at Eve, but I continued to keep up with what was going on in the game. VileRat’s death had a profound effect on me, I never really knew the guy. But hearing people talk about him and what he did for this game, the outpouring of support for his family. That really affected me, it was my call to service.

It's hard writing that because I don’t feel I deserve to say it, I never knew the guy and only know what people said about him. But I honestly think that pushed me to be a better person. All the places I’ve gone, things I’ve accomplished, the amazing people I’ve met. The work I’ve done to help people. It’s all because I wanted to be a little bit like VileRat.

EVE and the CFC/Imperium were there for me when I needed them. When I had to kick out my drug addict fiancé of 10 years and be truly alone for the first time. There was the Casino War and I could stay up all night running clownshoes.
I had finally retired from EVE when COVID hit. I was in a bad place, I was stuck inside, didn’t have many friends, and had a lovely job. My dad had gone in for surgery and couldn’t breathe on his own, he was stuck in the hospital on a ventilator, and I couldn’t see him for months. I was at the very low point in my life when I decided to check my spam folder and the Mittani had asked me to come back for one last war.

That war and The Imperium saved my life, I don’t think I’d be alive today if it wasn’t for that war.

Every Fireside Chat, every Metashow, every Reddit bullshit drama was a distraction that I desperately needed that year. It was something I could do and not worry about getting a text from my mom that my dad had gotten worse. If you were involved in the planning of anchoring those Keepstars into Delve in October that had us throwing everything to blow them up. THANK YOU! October was when I could finally see my dad in the hospital after months of not knowing what was happening. I got to watch his body and mind slowly wither away while he died on a machine. I really needed a distraction that month. To those of you who made those day long TIDI fights happen, I don’t have the ability to repay you.

It’s hard to describe just how wonderful it was to get a ping for a fleet and get on comms and listen to people laugh and have fun for a couple of hours. EVE was a bright happy spot in a year that was cruel to me.
Things got worse in 2021, my brother got COVID bad and almost died on a ventilator. He was stuck in the hospital for months and may never fully walk again. Having back-to-back loved ones on ventilators broke me and I just faded away after the war and I’ve no desire to come back.

Anyway, this was hard to write. But I love this stupid, absolutely terrible spaceship game that I’ll never play again. I love you magnificent bastards, every one of you.

EVE ONLINE has and will be Home to me.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Mappo posted:

I couldn’t sleep so I stayed up and watched the rest of that 6 hour EVE Online documentary. I got emotional at the end when the last track was called “Home”. I’ve put off writing this post for about a year now and I’m going to do it.

I’ve played this game on and off or followed it in some form for nearly 20 years, that’s almost my entire adult life. This stupid terrible spaceship game had a massive impact on my life and weirdly enough for the better. As I creep towards middle age, I actually like who I am and I feel that I have EVE to thank for that.
I joined Goonfleet sometime after they had moved into Deklin and found that peacetime in Null Sec was not something I could really do. I won at Eve, but I continued to keep up with what was going on in the game. VileRat’s death had a profound effect on me, I never really knew the guy. But hearing people talk about him and what he did for this game, the outpouring of support for his family. That really affected me, it was my call to service.

It's hard writing that because I don’t feel I deserve to say it, I never knew the guy and only know what people said about him. But I honestly think that pushed me to be a better person. All the places I’ve gone, things I’ve accomplished, the amazing people I’ve met. The work I’ve done to help people. It’s all because I wanted to be a little bit like VileRat.

EVE and the CFC/Imperium were there for me when I needed them. When I had to kick out my drug addict fiancé of 10 years and be truly alone for the first time. There was the Casino War and I could stay up all night running clownshoes.
I had finally retired from EVE when COVID hit. I was in a bad place, I was stuck inside, didn’t have many friends, and had a lovely job. My dad had gone in for surgery and couldn’t breathe on his own, he was stuck in the hospital on a ventilator, and I couldn’t see him for months. I was at the very low point in my life when I decided to check my spam folder and the Mittani had asked me to come back for one last war.

That war and The Imperium saved my life, I don’t think I’d be alive today if it wasn’t for that war.

Every Fireside Chat, every Metashow, every Reddit bullshit drama was a distraction that I desperately needed that year. It was something I could do and not worry about getting a text from my mom that my dad had gotten worse. If you were involved in the planning of anchoring those Keepstars into Delve in October that had us throwing everything to blow them up. THANK YOU! October was when I could finally see my dad in the hospital after months of not knowing what was happening. I got to watch his body and mind slowly wither away while he died on a machine. I really needed a distraction that month. To those of you who made those day long TIDI fights happen, I don’t have the ability to repay you.

It’s hard to describe just how wonderful it was to get a ping for a fleet and get on comms and listen to people laugh and have fun for a couple of hours. EVE was a bright happy spot in a year that was cruel to me.
Things got worse in 2021, my brother got COVID bad and almost died on a ventilator. He was stuck in the hospital for months and may never fully walk again. Having back-to-back loved ones on ventilators broke me and I just faded away after the war and I’ve no desire to come back.

Anyway, this was hard to write. But I love this stupid, absolutely terrible spaceship game that I’ll never play again. I love you magnificent bastards, every one of you.

EVE ONLINE has and will be Home to me.

Thanks for sharing this. I hope you are in a good headspace

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Glad you got through; Covid and its restrictions were very hard for a lot of people, so I’m glad you were able to hang out with Evefriends at a time when socializing physically was a no-go.

Even the folks who “win” Eve hafta at least consider that for some folks, Eve may be the difference in having human connection every day with all that entails or sitting in your room alone for six months polishing your hunting rifles. Or whatever bad alone-time rabbit holes some might trip in to.

EVE Online…a force for good? 😇

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017



I'm glad that the community you found in the Imperium and within EVE was a good thing for you. I hope your brother recovers fully, and that you stay in good health.

DerekSmartymans posted:

Glad you got through; Covid and its restrictions were very hard for a lot of people, so I’m glad you were able to hang out with Evefriends at a time when socializing physically was a no-go.

Even the folks who “win” Eve hafta at least consider that for some folks, Eve may be the difference in having human connection every day with all that entails or sitting in your room alone for six months polishing your hunting rifles. Or whatever bad alone-time rabbit holes some might trip in to.

EVE Online…a force for good? 😇

If I were still a lonely egg, I would still be playing EVE.

Having a partner that I intend to spend the rest of my life with and Hot Girl poo poo to do means EVE no longer fills that need for human connection.

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

dragonshardz posted:


If I were still a lonely egg, I would still be playing EVE.

Having a partner that I intend to spend the rest of my life with and Hot Girl poo poo to do means EVE no longer fills that need for human connection.

See, I’m on the other end…ever since before Covid because of my living situation I’ve pretty much been a shut in. I can’t risk getting even a cold because two out of the three folks at home have compromised immune systems (as an aside, Granny turned 100 today!). Nobody is allowed to just drop in, and my father and I still wear masks at the grocery store and do most shopping online anyway.

Most of my day to day socializing for four years has been via online methods. Sure, I “communicate” with friends and family daily, but a phone call really doesn’t replace a nice dinner. Seeing a movie together, no matter how many times a day you text/email your bff, just makes you feel better afterwards.

Eve has sorta bridged that gap for me since a posting buddy here on SA got me to give it a shot in 2022. I’ve enjoyed hanging out with new folks again. Voice coms are usually fun, and there’s always some Goon around to answer questions or process your asteroids. I’ve also liked meeting folks from around the world that I’d never have met before the internet. Maybe the fact that when I started playing Mittani was otw out helped, but I’ve had the best time playing a multiplayer game online since EverQuest in 1999. Even the d-name posters aren’t that bad :colbert:

Horsebanger
Jun 25, 2009

Steering wheel! Hey! Steering wheel! Someone tell him to give it to me!
I to this day credit eve and goonswarm home economics with getting me the life skills to properly budget in my day to day life.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

DerekSmartymans posted:

EVE Online…a force for good? 😇

It's the best submarines in space/spreadsheet simulator for a reason

Smitington
Feb 27, 2012
Having been casually aware of the game since launch, I booted it up for the first time after watching the documentary and am really enjoying it so far. We'll see where it goes, pretty daunting to start off totally new and grind your way up.

Feliday Melody
May 8, 2021

There's this early scene in the documentary of a hauler trying to make it to a gate while being attacked. And the narrator is trying to make it sound really dramatic.

And it just doesn't work. I understand the feeling. I get what they're going for. But I imagine a non-Eve player listening to this dramatization, and Eve must sound so confusing to normal people.

BounceBanana
Feb 3, 2021
But that micro-warp drive was so powerful

Das Butterbrot
Dec 2, 2005
Lecker.

Feliday Melody posted:

There's this early scene in the documentary of a hauler trying to make it to a gate while being attacked. And the narrator is trying to make it sound really dramatic.

And it just doesn't work. I understand the feeling. I get what they're going for. But I imagine a non-Eve player listening to this dramatization, and Eve must sound so confusing to normal people.

that's true for a lot of games though. theres a big discrepancy in hearing someone's stories about dwarf fortress and seeing what the game actually looks like. same for p much all traditional roguelikes. that doesn't make those games worse imo, just more abstract than your typical "press button, see reaction" action game.

Das Butterbrot fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Nov 10, 2023

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind
I get the impression the video communicated things pretty well to non-Eve players, judging from most of its audience that it clearly successfully reached not being Eve players, as well as the people who keep popping up who want to play Eve because of it now.

I got one of those and introduced him to PVP three days in by taking him to bubble Frat staging. He lived through his first fight and we got a Kitsune and Retribution, which he jammed. :shobon:

Elukka fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Nov 10, 2023

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

ragedx posted:

I don't think you could ever really get rid of all that on the internet.

ive never heard a goose use a gamer word, and geese leadership are open about the fact that anyone who does will get :commissar:

turns out you just need to value decency more than bloc size, set standards, and stick with em :honk:

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe

Mappo posted:

I couldn’t sleep so I stayed up and watched the rest of that 6 hour EVE Online documentary. I got emotional at the end when the last track was called “Home”. I’ve put off writing this post for about a year now and I’m going to do it.

I’ve played this game on and off or followed it in some form for nearly 20 years, that’s almost my entire adult life. This stupid terrible spaceship game had a massive impact on my life and weirdly enough for the better. As I creep towards middle age, I actually like who I am and I feel that I have EVE to thank for that.
I joined Goonfleet sometime after they had moved into Deklin and found that peacetime in Null Sec was not something I could really do. I won at Eve, but I continued to keep up with what was going on in the game. VileRat’s death had a profound effect on me, I never really knew the guy. But hearing people talk about him and what he did for this game, the outpouring of support for his family. That really affected me, it was my call to service.

It's hard writing that because I don’t feel I deserve to say it, I never knew the guy and only know what people said about him. But I honestly think that pushed me to be a better person. All the places I’ve gone, things I’ve accomplished, the amazing people I’ve met. The work I’ve done to help people. It’s all because I wanted to be a little bit like VileRat.

EVE and the CFC/Imperium were there for me when I needed them. When I had to kick out my drug addict fiancé of 10 years and be truly alone for the first time. There was the Casino War and I could stay up all night running clownshoes.
I had finally retired from EVE when COVID hit. I was in a bad place, I was stuck inside, didn’t have many friends, and had a lovely job. My dad had gone in for surgery and couldn’t breathe on his own, he was stuck in the hospital on a ventilator, and I couldn’t see him for months. I was at the very low point in my life when I decided to check my spam folder and the Mittani had asked me to come back for one last war.

That war and The Imperium saved my life, I don’t think I’d be alive today if it wasn’t for that war.

Every Fireside Chat, every Metashow, every Reddit bullshit drama was a distraction that I desperately needed that year. It was something I could do and not worry about getting a text from my mom that my dad had gotten worse. If you were involved in the planning of anchoring those Keepstars into Delve in October that had us throwing everything to blow them up. THANK YOU! October was when I could finally see my dad in the hospital after months of not knowing what was happening. I got to watch his body and mind slowly wither away while he died on a machine. I really needed a distraction that month. To those of you who made those day long TIDI fights happen, I don’t have the ability to repay you.

It’s hard to describe just how wonderful it was to get a ping for a fleet and get on comms and listen to people laugh and have fun for a couple of hours. EVE was a bright happy spot in a year that was cruel to me.
Things got worse in 2021, my brother got COVID bad and almost died on a ventilator. He was stuck in the hospital for months and may never fully walk again. Having back-to-back loved ones on ventilators broke me and I just faded away after the war and I’ve no desire to come back.

Anyway, this was hard to write. But I love this stupid, absolutely terrible spaceship game that I’ll never play again. I love you magnificent bastards, every one of you.

EVE ONLINE has and will be Home to me.

o7 o/

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Das Butterbrot posted:

that's true for a lot of games though. theres a big discrepancy in hearing someone's stories about dwarf fortress and seeing what the game actually looks like. same for p much all traditional roguelikes. that doesn't make those games worse imo, just more abstract than your typical "press button, see reaction" action game.

like dwarf fortress, people exaggerate how difficult it is to understand what's going on, too

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017


DerekSmartymans posted:

See, I’m on the other end…ever since before Covid because of my living situation I’ve pretty much been a shut in. I can’t risk getting even a cold because two out of the three folks at home have compromised immune systems (as an aside, Granny turned 100 today!). Nobody is allowed to just drop in, and my father and I still wear masks at the grocery store and do most shopping online anyway.

Most of my day to day socializing for four years has been via online methods. Sure, I “communicate” with friends and family daily, but a phone call really doesn’t replace a nice dinner. Seeing a movie together, no matter how many times a day you text/email your bff, just makes you feel better afterwards.

Eve has sorta bridged that gap for me since a posting buddy here on SA got me to give it a shot in 2022. I’ve enjoyed hanging out with new folks again. Voice coms are usually fun, and there’s always some Goon around to answer questions or process your asteroids. I’ve also liked meeting folks from around the world that I’d never have met before the internet. Maybe the fact that when I started playing Mittani was otw out helped, but I’ve had the best time playing a multiplayer game online since EverQuest in 1999. Even the d-name posters aren’t that bad :colbert:

...I was going to explain my point to you, but I have neither the patience nor the crayons.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind

ragedx posted:

I don't think you could ever really get rid of all that on the internet.
Maybe not on the internet as a whole, but in any given community? Yeah you can just not allow bigots in and kick out any that might leak through.

Helpimscared
Jun 16, 2014

floppyspud posted:

Cool, I haven’t seen you guys around. Got a PGS thread?

They don't recruit openly, even goons, as far as I know.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I watched most of that 6 hour Eve video and decided to check on my account which I guess I made in 2007 lol

I guess I have 54 million skill points in god knows what.

I also have poo poo all over the galaxy.

I might just get omega and do what I did for years and just log on and train poo poo and not actually play the game.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
Which one of you are the gay worm holers
and which one of you are like, gooses in npc space. I'll join one of you now.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

Toalpaz posted:

Which one of you are the gay worm holers
and which one of you are like, gooses in npc space. I'll join one of you now.



The gay wormhole geese are also the gay Stain geese. We're one and the same. Come honk in local.

Elchimpster
Mar 22, 2012
So I saw on dotlan there is literally a lowsec gate to stain? Did stainguy ever get to see his legacy realized?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I have like 650k un allocated skill points. Wtf are you supposed to do with them?

Where is the Eve dumbass questions thread?

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

MarcusSA posted:

I have like 650k un allocated skill points. Wtf are you supposed to do with them?

Where is the Eve dumbass questions thread?

Keep them until you want something and need it now. Needing a skill and having the sp saved up for it is the best feeling.

Kaysette
Jan 5, 2009

~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

:wrongcity:

MarcusSA posted:

Where is the Eve dumbass questions thread?

You found it :getin:

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

MarcusSA posted:

Where is the Eve dumbass questions thread?

I post here, so, um, here! In all seriousness most questions are answered quickly and often with a link or tip about how to not do whatever your question is about because there’s a better way to do it.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Awesome thanks!

I actually managed to recover my very first account from early 2005 lol. I barely used it so it's essentially worthless but I totally thought it was long gone.

Dieting Hippo
Jan 5, 2006

THIS IS NOT A PROPER DIET FOR A HIPPO
:honk: sup whole squid

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Elchimpster posted:

So I saw on dotlan there is literally a lowsec gate to stain? Did stainguy ever get to see his legacy realized?

Yes, and subsequently biomassed that character iirc

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
biomassing is the coward's route

Elchimpster
Mar 22, 2012
It genuinely caught me by suprise and I had an actual physical reaction to realizing it was reality. Total shock followed by euphoria.
More proof the players make the game what it is.

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?
Jita to Amar now taking 45 jumps???!!!

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

Dieting Hippo posted:

:honk: sup whole squid

imagine not having hole violence, the precursor to whole squid, in your corp history 😂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMu42uUbWYg

BounceBanana
Feb 3, 2021

MarcusSA posted:

Awesome thanks!

I actually managed to recover my very first account from early 2005 lol. I barely used it so it's essentially worthless but I totally thought it was long gone.

If you feel the character is worthless to you, I hear some people will pay a premium for characters with a really old birth date on the bazaar. I'd still just keep it myself, but it's an idea.

Dirac Fourier
Aug 14, 2023

BounceBanana posted:

If you feel the character is worthless to you, I hear some people will pay a premium for characters with a really old birth date on the bazaar. I'd still just keep it myself, but it's an idea.

That's pretty cool. I have two characters born in 2007 that I never really got going. They both have less than 1M SP and never left the NPC corp. One of them doesn't even have a portrait on the login screen.

Sapphic Socialism
Jan 7, 2017

All your favourite video game characters are gay and trans.

A Bad King posted:

Jita to Amar now taking 45 jumps???!!!

Yeah, they had this event where a new NPC faction (Triglavians) invaded a bunch of systems and eventually disconnected them from the stargate network and made them into their own region of space (Pochven) disconnected from Empire space. One of these was Niarja, on the Jita-Amarr route, so the new highsec route goes the long way around.

If you change your autopilot settings to Prefer Shorter, there's a 12 jump route but it goes through lowsec.

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Smegma Princess X
Jul 27, 2012
I watched the 6 hour long doc and I'm thinking of coming back, what's new for an old goon with 63m SP to do that is new and exciting in Eve, but is still casual without needing to be terminally online or multibox accounts?

Edit: I've been gone for 5 years and only recently logged back on, still an alpha clone.

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