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Paperhouse posted:Laguna is just the goofy dumbass that Squall could have been if he wasn't so traumatised and insecure Ironically the same reason people like Zack.
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Bro its crazy how Answers still goes the hardest out of all the main themes of the FF14 expansions. I guess that's what you get when your song is the theme of the apocalypse.
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Nov 14, 2023 04:06
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and then they circled back around and made it relevant to Endwalker too
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Nov 14, 2023 04:07
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Paperhouse posted:Laguna is just the goofy dumbass that Squall could have been if he wasn't so traumatised and insecure Counterpoint: Squall is traumatized and insecure because Laguna is a goofy dumbass.
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Paperhouse posted:Laguna is just the goofy dumbass that Squall could have been if he wasn't so traumatised and insecure ImpAtom posted:Ironically the same reason people like Zack. Both those statements are true but in a sense Laguna is far more like Cloud. The Shumi Elder basically spells it out for you - Laguna is not a man who is particularly good at anything. He's not a great speaker, he's not a great fighter, he sure is poo poo isn't super smart. And yet he has an undeniable charisma backed up by a good heart. Laguna never would have gotten into SOLDIER or even SeeD probably. Zack and Squall are both prodigies while Laguna and Cloud are far more normal and what makes them heroes is nothing other than their willpower and their inherent ability to lead others. But other than that, FFVII and FFVIII are just wildly, wildly different stories. I like Cloud because I see a lot of Fei in him, which is unsurprising because of Xenogears being a early draft of FFVII. I've always felt Cloud has far more in common with Fei than he does any of his fellow FF leads. I really like that finding your true self message that is so central to them both. (maybe this is why P4 is my favorite Persona game. Never really thought about it) NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Nov 14, 2023 |
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Nov 14, 2023 04:16
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Laguna, a man not entirely built of traumas and insecurities. Just no PTSD at all and an absolute lady killer.
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Nov 14, 2023 04:31
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Gologle posted:Bro its crazy how Answers still goes the hardest out of all the main themes of the FF14 expansions. I guess that's what you get when your song is the theme of the apocalypse. a shame about the person who sung it
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Nov 14, 2023 05:38
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Squall still has 'don't leave any hot dogs for the enemy' so he's not immune to being goofy.
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Nov 14, 2023 06:49
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If Zell simply eats all the hotdogs there will be none left for the enemy
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Nov 14, 2023 06:53
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Zell was the glizzy goblin all along
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Nov 14, 2023 07:26
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The ending of FF7 is amazing, I've never forgotten the feeling of sitting and watching it, left wondering if humanity had done enough to survive, wondering if Midgar was green because we were doing better. The final dungeon wasn't as good as VI or VIII, but the ending never left me.
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Nov 14, 2023 10:51
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ImpAtom posted:Ironically the same reason people like Zack. I like Zack because I'm also a Zach I was devastated to learn that his name is "Zacks" in the original Japanese
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Nov 14, 2023 11:05
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Ytlaya posted:I like Zack because I'm also a Zach Zack's what?
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Nov 14, 2023 13:48
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Zacks deez nuts
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shoeberto posted:Zack's what? It's short for Zack Is Babygirl
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Cavelcade posted:The ending of FF7 is amazing, I've never forgotten the feeling of sitting and watching it, left wondering if humanity had done enough to survive, wondering if Midgar was green because we were doing better. Everything made after FF7 only diluted the setting and made FF7's ending worse.
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Nov 14, 2023 17:24
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actually FF7R is good and hell so is crisis core
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Nov 14, 2023 17:25
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dirge of cerberus is funny therefore it is good
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Mordiceius posted:Everything made after FF7 only diluted the setting and made FF7's ending worse. This is a dumb opinion.
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Nov 14, 2023 17:28
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Nah it's all rear end up until Remake
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Nov 14, 2023 17:32
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Crisis Core is good and cool, and my friend
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Nov 14, 2023 17:32
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No Dignity posted:Nah it's all rear end up until Remake Remake contains and is made up of all the parts before it. It's all good.
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Nov 14, 2023 17:35
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Mordiceius posted:Everything made after FF7 only diluted the setting and made FF7's ending worse. Are you counting the Japanese or Western releases? Trying to determine whether Men in Black or Event Horizon made FF7s ending worse.
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Nov 14, 2023 17:39
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I kinda miss the debate over whether humanity survived FFVII’s ending, which got immediately shut down as soon as Advent Children was announced.
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Nov 14, 2023 17:58
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Mordiceius posted:Everything made after FF7 only diluted the setting and made FF7's ending worse. Dilly-dally, shilly-shally
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Nov 14, 2023 18:04
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HD DAD posted:I kinda miss the debate over whether humanity survived FFVII’s ending, which got immediately shut down as soon as Advent Children was announced. It was interesting but honestly it was always going to come down on "humanity survives." The context of the ending is that Holy and Meteor are BOTH about to go off, and the Lifestream comes up and pushes them away from the planet, with the final shot being Aerith looking up and smiling. It was ambiguous enough you could argue since we didn't see any humans in the post-credit scene but I think even before AC most people just assumed humanity survived (the children laughing at the end being the popular argument.) (To be honest I remember a lot of the arguments from that time period and they tended to involve people assuming Holy and Lifestream were the same thing because most of us were dumb teenagers arguing about a poorly translated game.)
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Remake contains and is made up of all the parts before it. It's all good. sorry but i played dirge of cerberus all the way through multiple times on purpose so I have first hand evidence that this is not true
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Nov 14, 2023 18:12
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If it was bad why'd you play it repeatedly?
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welcome posted:If it was bad why'd you play it repeatedly? Brotha this is not the thread to ask this question
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Nov 14, 2023 18:15
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welcome posted:If it was bad why'd you play it repeatedly? I was 12 and my mom wouldn't rent me another game from blockbuster until the rental period expired
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cock hero flux posted:I was 12 and my mom wouldn't rent me another game from blockbuster until the rental period expired Condolences.
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Ojjeorago posted:Dilly-dally, shilly-shally The actual story behind that line is really interesting (to me at least.) In the original Japanese, the line is (something like) "zuru-zuru zuru-zuru", which apparently is a Japanese idiomatic onomatopoeia of the sound of dragging a heavy object across the floor - think of the scraping sound of moving something in a Resident Evil game. In context, Tifa is bitching at Cloud for dragging all that emotional baggage behind him. I remember watching a bootleg of the Japanese dub of Advent Children and wondering how the gently caress they were going to translate that, so while "Dilly-dally silly shally" is kind of a stupid line, it's also a heroic effort in localization. jokes posted:
Final Fantasy Megathread: If it was bad why'd you play it repeatedly? Agents are GO! fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Nov 14, 2023 |
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the thing about zack, especially in all his appearances after the original, is he's just a typical goofball anime protagonist. there's no complexity or intrigue to him at all. and that's fine because he's just supposed to be a role model cloud is desperately trying to live up to and can't, that's what makes him work as part of cloud's story. he's the guy you'd expect to be the hero of FF7, and one of the reasons it's a good story is that he isn't. so i dunno about making him a more important standalone character in rebirth. i definitely don't think he should be replacing cloud cos he's whitebread.
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I'd put good money on part 3 being called Reunion and at least as much about Cloud and Zack being reunited as the whole Jenova thing
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Agents are GO! posted:Final Fantasy Megathread: If it was bad why'd you play it repeatedly? 
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If there were a VIII Remake I'd want the Garden campus to be HUGE. Dozens of classrooms with the walls detailed with everything from elementary school age colors and posters all the way up to stuffy college lecture halls. A gigantic library and expansive dorms with different zones of kids hanging out. Multiple tiered parking lot. Of course the admin floors would be just as detailed as the classrooms and dorms. Just give me a whole huge school full of character and history. And then make it fly later. Of course all the rest of the locations would be like four little zones each but who cares? Make Garden a place to really love.
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cafeteria worker minigame where you have to serve hot dogs at the lunch rush
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Nov 14, 2023 19:44
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The lunch rush is just a Dynasty Warriors style beat-em-up
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RareAcumen posted:The lunch rush is just a Dynasty Warriors style beat-em-up No, it's a light gun game where you fire hot dogs into Zell's mouth. (This serves as a tutorial for the same controls later being used for Angelo Cannon.)
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In the JP script for FF8, was it still hot dogs? Or was it something like yakisoba pan?
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