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notwithoutmyanus posted:Uhhhh. I didnt' have Madison on my list for places where hosed up poo poo happens, but apparently it did. There's a guy that drives around in a car covered in nazi slogans/stickers and yells at people in the hippy-ish neighborhood. A lot of people have posted stories of him following/stalking them and generally being creepy around town. He's also sued the city/state a bunch of times for various awful reasons. I haven't heard of this group before but there are right wing/MAGA protests around the capitol fairly frequently.
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OgNar posted:This was the only thing I could find saying who. "They're feds" is what chuds always say about these groups. So easy to distance yourself from anything problematic by claiming the more egregious examples are just a psy Op by the woke government to make conservatives look bad.
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Apparently Froot Loops is woke now, people screaming to give it the Bud Light treatment. https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1726278404352385461?t=D5q6ff9mApNbWqJV9QU8Hg&s=19
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Panfilo posted:Apparently Froot Loops is woke now, people screaming to give it the Bud Light treatment. I know, I know - “don’t read the comments”, but man…. What a bunch of goddamn snowflake babies. “We have to boycott a kids cereal because they want kids to read about different people!! It’s grooming!!” is a hell of a take…
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Countdown to 'Froot Loops has been grooming kids for years! Look at the rainbows they use!'
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I'm still a bit surprised (knowing I shouldn't be) that they're okay with coming out against things like diversity, equity and inclusion that openly. The whole point of buzzwords like woke is to stop the people using it from thinking about the fact that they're against things most people consider to be moral. On the plus side it is pretty funny that they think corporations actually care about anything other than maximizing profits.
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The box has pronouns on the side too, it's like kryptonite for these idiots. https://twitter.com/MemeNonLibs/status/1726283942741844037?t=db6GS9S8YUQfXLyVEnW_FQ&s=19
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Usually the Fruit Loops are inside the box, not talking about the box.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Yeah, as frustrating as the South Park philosophy of "if you really care about something that makes you a loser" is most of the time, it does work both ways. Most conservatives aren't deeply-invested Culture Warriors, even if they say they are. Sure, they might be swept up into regressive movements, but they fall off when the actual deeply-invested Culture Warriors get too confident and say the quiet part loud too much. May you expand upon the above? It does seem or maybe feel that South Park is awfully nihilistic and kind of has the attitude that everything kind of sucks.
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The Islamic Shock posted:I'm still a bit surprised (knowing I shouldn't be) that they're okay with coming out against things like diversity, equity and inclusion that openly. The whole point of buzzwords like woke is to stop the people using it from thinking about the fact that they're against things most people consider to be moral. Florida is at the vanguard of this. Not only are they banning DEI programs at universities; they're actually trying to ban private employers from requiring diversity training. Everyone should be able to openly express bigotry everywhere, including on the job apparently. DeSantis, the state legislature and the state courts really, really hate minorities and LGBTQ+ people.
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So yeah, Republicans as a whole have gone completely mask off and are putting a lot of effort behind converting the country from a democracy into a Christian autocracy where the lives of everyone who isn't a straight white Christian will be as unpleasant as possible. They basically want to be Iran but Christian rather than Muslim.
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...! posted:Florida is at the vanguard of this. Not only are they banning DEI programs at universities; they're actually trying to ban private employers from requiring diversity training. Everyone should be able to openly express bigotry everywhere, including on the job apparently. (or maybe I'm indulging some liberal fantasy where hypocrisy pointed out hard enough, often enough can get a minority of Republicans to switch who were only hanging on by a few issues anyway) The Islamic Shock fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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The ancient order must be maintained. To break the old laws is perversion. Trix are for kids. The rabbit must die to cleanse his sin.
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Gucci Loafers posted:May you expand upon the above? It does seem or maybe feel that South Park is awfully nihilistic and kind of has the attitude that everything kind of sucks. The idea of "caring about things is for losers" is a very GenX/early millenial attitude that embraces irony and sarcasm and eschews genuineness and enthusiasm as being for suckers and losers. Actually having opinions and fighting for things is what Boomers did in the '60's, and that didn't get them anywhere, and you sure as gently caress don't want to be earnest idealists like your loving parents, so disengage and mock everyone because that's the only joy you can get out of any of it. If you care, you're destined to be disappointed when everything fails, so put an armor around yourself with detached observational humor and irony-soaked sarcasm as you prove you're too cool for school by getting in one last smug zinger as the world burns. It's rife in '90s/'00s edgy humor and therefore the early internet (with this site being a massive champion for the attitude, and it's still extant in political threads here and in C-SPAM); and as South Park was pretty much the most watched '90s/00s edgy humor show, it's generally seen as the example of that philosophy. Edit: I've heard pop psychologists say it's very much a detatchment strategy - you get hurt by something, the easiest way to react and make sure you don't get hurt by anything again is to detach from things and maintain a casual aloofness - turned into culture trend largely by Boomers being the generation with highest divorce rate ever, and thus their children naturally turning to detatchment as a way of dealing with that pain. skeleton warrior fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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And as is always the case, their irony served reactionary ends, regardless of their intentions. I think Parker and Stone are basically reactionaries in the sense of being selfish and resenting the idea that they should have to give any regard to anyone other than themselves, but it doesn’t matter. Just look at how their ironic (or “ironic”) antisemitism presaged the rise of 4chan and the alt right as pop-cultural forces. I don’t think they caused it, because material conditions drive cultural developments, but they set the script that tons of fuckers who grew up on South Park would use to mainstream fascism. The detached irony of art in the end of history era, postmodernism, pastiche, all of it, served reactionary ends.
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I AM GRANDO posted:And as is always the case, their irony served reactionary ends, regardless of their intentions. I think Parker and Stone are basically reactionaries in the sense of being selfish and resenting the idea that they should have to give any regard to anyone other than themselves, but it doesn’t matter. Just look at how their ironic (or “ironic”) antisemitism presaged the rise of 4chan and the alt right as pop-cultural forces. I don’t think they caused it, because material conditions drive cultural developments, but they set the script that tons of fuckers who grew up on South Park would use to mainstream fascism. Wait, the children that were raised in the era of Reagan by a generation of Boomers that claimed to be idealistic but instead succumbed completely to narcisism and consumerism took on an attitude of detatched irony that was individualist and reactionary? Who would've thunk? Sorry, recovering ironist. Your points are good and I agree with them.
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skeleton warrior posted:Wait, the children that were raised in the era of Reagan by a generation of Boomers that claimed to be idealistic but instead succumbed completely to narcisism and consumerism took on an attitude of detatched irony that was individualist and reactionary? I have sympathy for people living and making art in the Reagan era, as the horizons were really reduced down to nothing. We're in a terrible bind now, but left ideas are actually thinkable and some political organizing can actually happen--the closest equivalent would be if Trump had been massively popular and republicans won elections at every level in repeated blowouts. There really was no alternative in that time, and you can see old leftists basically surrendering and retreating into themselves in the shift from the 70s into the 80s, giving up the field.
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Also, we grew up being taught and expecting fully that we were destined to die in a Soviet nuclear first strike. Made it real hard to care about things, when your elementary education included, "and this is what to do when the world ends, as it will do shortly." Not to excuse my generation's failures, but hell if we didn't get a ton of brick dropped on us from the get go.
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The reactionary aloofness is also easy because it involves zero risk to the self. They don't have to take a stance and are free to criticize everyone around them. They're never the hypocrite because there's nothing to contrast their behavior or stances against. Taking a moral stance (in either direction) means you have something to defend, justify, and uphold. All that is work, and it inevitably opens you up to contradictions that your critics will needle you with. I see it a lot with leftists - they take a stance on socialism, the environment, sexism, etc only to have Mr Gotcha pop up from a nearby trash can. It's a million variation of the Matt Bors comic: "Healthcare should be a human right." Mr Gotcha: "That requires forcing people to provide it to you, which is slavery. Typical Democrat!" "We should reduce our reliance on fossil fuels" Mr Gotcha: "Yet you use products made and delivered by fossil fuels! Interesting!" "Men and women should be treated equally" Mr Gotcha: "Yet you don't want to get drafted alongside men. How selfish!" The people that refuse to take a stance think they have found One Weird Trick To Winning At Politics. They believe that by sidestepping those gotchas they'll avoid any negative aspects of their ideology. Meanwhile they can knock on yours all day and stay on the offensive.
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Yes and that is why they go hard on culture war nonsense. Their other platforms only appeal to the people who vote Republican because they either don’t want to pay taxes or want a tax cut.
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Trump Derangement Syndrome is pretty clever framing. Any and all legitimate criticism of Trump will just be handwaved as hysteria.
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Bodyholes posted:Trump Derangement Syndrome is pretty clever framing. Any and all legitimate criticism of Trump will just be handwaved as hysteria. I remember back in the day they also had "Bush Derangement Syndrome" to dismiss any criticism or outrage against that administration, no matter how warranted.
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I'm sorry but Obama Derangement Syndrome and Trump Derangement Syndrome were absolutely a thing.
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm sorry but Obama Derangement Syndrome and Trump Derangement Syndrome were absolutely a thing. Well sure but it's like most Right Wing Media things. "Obama Derangement Syndrome" was people pointing out "He's wearing a tan suit you loving weirdos, could you try to at least have some basis in reality to your criticisms?" so the right stole the words, completely ignored the content of the message, then used it as a hollow, meaningless rhetorical vessel to load up with their hatred of the 'other' and launch it back at their enemies.
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But they did! He also used fancy sounding mustard that you definitely couldn't just, you know, pick up at any grocery store.
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Dirk the Average posted:But they did! He also used fancy sounding mustard that you definitely couldn't just, you know, pick up at any grocery store. Sure, maybe elitist urban liberals buy that stuff at their fancy boutique designer shops, but here in God's country we have calloused hands, sore backs and plain yellow mustard is good enough for us! It's little things like the mustard that show how he really only identifies with holier-than-though, over educated, under experienced city idiots that don't know what a hard day's work is. Yes, I do live close enough to or within a city to benefit from it's resources and convenience but I identify as a 19th century cowboy aesthetically, thank you and yeehaw.
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As somebody who is a tasteless manual labourer and gets most groceries from walmart, the freakout about Obama's mustard choice is especially funny bc here's the mustard we use back home only the finest and fanciest this bad bitch costs nearly 2 dollars last I checked
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Brown mustard only mustard. Part of being conservative must be having horrible taste and being deeply suspicious of all sensory pleasure. Mayonnaise and white bread turn pastrami into punishment, ergo they make it acceptable.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:As somebody who is a tasteless manual labourer and gets most groceries from walmart, the freakout about Obama's mustard choice is especially funny bc here's the mustard we use back home Yeah, dijon is a fine mustard For me to POUPON
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I AM GRANDO posted:Brown mustard only mustard. Conservatism is about the End of History. Every good idea was already invented, every tasty food has already been mainstream, every method/technique/belief has already been min maxed long ago. The rejection of 'weird' foods or different eating habits is fundamentally a rejection of outsiders trying to reinvent the wheel. Conservatives already "know" what is good, for them to be open to something new is to admit a moral weakness in their character. There's a big helping of projection there too, just look at how triggered they get by vegans and become these absolutely insufferable "anti-vegan" in response.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Brown mustard only mustard. There's a whole religious undertone of "Flavor is immoral" at play, too. Not as much now, where it's just all those dirty $ethnics ruining things by having spices as the main rant, but there's a handful still around.
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PhazonLink posted:also remember when regressive protested Heinz because of Kerry's supposed links and said they're switched to distant 2nd place Hunts? Don't tell me you forgot about W Ketchup. http://www.wketchup.com/about/
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PhazonLink posted:also remember when regressive protested Heinz because of Kerry's supposed links and said they're switched to distant 2nd place Hunts? And how many of them actually did that, and how many of them still do that? These regressive protests over food and drink companies don't last long and are only seriously practiced by a vanishingly few people. No one was calling them freedom fries with any real sincerity by the end of that news week.
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What is the most elitist mustard? The least? What is the most conservative mustard, or the most leftist?
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Horseradish mustard is fiercely leftist. Whole grain has old-school conservative tendencies.
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