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Gaius Marius posted:I bet it's a nightmare working around food on set, even so though. Ravenous
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Chef kicks rear end except for the bad ending. I love chill low stakes movies about eating Also defending your life
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Nov 27, 2023 05:34
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Other good food pictures: Raw Eat Drink Man Woman Ratatouille The Trip
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Nov 27, 2023 05:49
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The God of Cookery is probably on the list, although it's a better food movie than it is a movie movie.
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Nov 27, 2023 05:53
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Julie and Julia Jiro dreams of sushi Comedy "Soylent Green" option
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Nov 27, 2023 05:59
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Never saw it, but remember hearing good things about Jiro Who Dreams of Sushi.
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Nov 27, 2023 06:00
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It's fine but if you open it up to Jiro you open it up to a shitload of documentaries.
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Nov 27, 2023 06:01
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well why not posted:The Menu is fun, it’s very camp and silly but it’s a nice time. It made me want a burger afterwards. And not the fast food kind either.
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Nov 27, 2023 06:21
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The MSJ posted:President Snow from Hunger Games sounding very familiar right now. I saw the prequel movie last weekend and thought it was actually pretty good. And also very relevant. I went to see it after a ceasefire rally. It’s still a YA fiction story, but it was hard to not think of the people who are fenced in and being punished by rich nations in real life.
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Nov 27, 2023 06:33
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All these food movies and no mention of Sweeney Todd smdh
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Nov 27, 2023 08:24
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i dont want to eat during it. them pies look nasty
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Nov 27, 2023 08:57
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Reminds me that Rango is an extremely thirsty movie. In the water sense.
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Nov 27, 2023 09:10
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Jiro Dreams of Sushi is pretty good, but the best thing about it is actually the trailer, an inspired combination of classical music and food: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-aGPniFvS0 JDOS trailer came out 2011, I am thoroughly convinced it acted as the North Star for most of the food scenes in the Hannibal tv series (2013), which they totally ran with and took it to some amazing and bonkers places https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26BsxRMyiEo If you like cinematic food scenes, totally check it out I like to think David Gelb (director of Jiro) was like “why is this Hannibal TV show stealing my bit!” and got Netflix to fund Chef’s Table (2015) Gelb was later hired to shoot all the food scenes in The Menu
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Nov 27, 2023 09:33
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I love God of Cookery because it’s the earliest example I can think of where people eat food and basically hallucinate their feelings because the food is so delicious. Later examples would include the anime series Yakitate Japan, Ratatouille, and Food Wars
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Nov 27, 2023 09:44
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Napoleon is functionally a comedy. At one point he accidentally damages an Egyptian mummy by touching it, like he's Mr Bean.
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Nov 27, 2023 09:55
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I know this sounds contrarianistic but I never understood why movies set in the past would be required to be historically accurate any more than movies set in the present. Of course you can invent a fake Napoleon to make whatever point you want to make, people have been doing that for literal millenia before cinema was invented. What is the argument for historical accuracy? That people should learn some historical facts when they go to the cinema?
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Nov 27, 2023 10:44
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Look at it the opposite way. What does having Napoleon return to France to see Josephine again despite her being dead by then in real life add? What does him blowing up a pyramid add? Or any other number of revisionist nonsense Scott added. They certainly don't make the film better, they don't flesh out Phoenix's cardboard portrayal, they aren't entertaining. You're starting at a position of change being inherently good, that is simply not true. If something isn't more entertaining why change it? The whole thing is a hack job by a hack writer and a hack director. When Gance has Napoleon cut the French flag off a Corsican building, escaping from Paoli's men, and then using it to sail back to France while the tossing of his boat is intercut with the fall of Robespierre that means something. None of that happened but it gives you a sense of the politics of Corsica, of France, and of how Napoleon is navigating the two. When the Imperial Guard refuse to surrender in Waterloo and choose to die before serving the Bourbons again it tells you of their character and their shame for breaking before they could crack Wellington's line leaving the opening for Blucher. TWBB isn't about any real person or event but because it understands the America of yesteryear it works to show the history of the country and the people who inhabited it in those years. Napoleon doesn't show anything. That person doesn't exist, that time period doesn't exist. The only people it appeals to are people who like grey on grey on grey cgi battles and Vanessa Kirby Stan's
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Nov 27, 2023 11:15
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I don't think it needs much explaining to unpack the symbolism of Napoleon firing a cannon at a great and ancient construction such that an imposing foreign leader immediately collapses before him. Only slightly more involved, the entire thesis of the film is that Josephine was a critical foil to Napoleon and her absence presages his failures, so it doesn't take much explaining as to why there'd be that embellishment. There can't be any logical order to this stuff, you just end up with is "it's allowed when it's good and forbidden when it's bad"
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Nov 27, 2023 11:22
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Gaius Marius posted:Why are they making me wait so long to see A Taste of Things in theatres? I want my Binoche epicurean epic now. It's really not a good film but the food looks [incredible. It's very beautifully done. El Gallinero Gros posted:Tampopo Yesss, came here to post it. This was given to me by a goon for CineD SS a few years ago (maybe AlanSmithee ?) - it's great.
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Nov 27, 2023 11:23
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josh04 posted:
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm just reminded of how Oppenheimer first presents the hat like it's Batman's cowl. Is 'Hacting' (n. acting with a hat) a thing? Peggotty posted:What is the argument for historical accuracy? Part of it is marketing. 'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood' is very clearly based on historical events, but was sold from the start as an invention given the leads never existed. Napoleon meanwhile was sold as a historical epic about this dude's life. Nothing about the film itself drifts into obvious embellishment either – if you don't know the history, it's not hard to imagine that "Napoleon shot a pyramid with a cannon" as something notable that happened. It presents itself as a somber telling of actual events, but is riddled with embellishments that don't feel that additive to the story. josh04 posted:"it's allowed when it's good and forbidden when it's bad" Yeah. CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Nov 27, 2023 |
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Nov 27, 2023 12:24
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josh04 posted:Napoleon is functionally a comedy. At one point he accidentally damages an Egyptian mummy by touching it, like he's Mr Bean. I can totally see Phoenix replacing Rowan Atkinson.
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Nov 27, 2023 12:45
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And I thought the legend was that the Sphinx has no nose because Napoleon shot it with a cannon. They couldn't have included that?
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Grendels Dad posted:Ravenous In a double feature with Bones and All.
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CelticPredator posted:Chef kicks rear end except for the bad ending. I love chill low stakes movies about eating Remind me what the bad ending was? I enjoyed the movie (as much as I enjoy a good cuban) but I can't remember what was bad about how it ended. Didn't he just open a restaurant?
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Nov 27, 2023 13:18
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Tampopo fans should check out Supermarket Woman.
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Nov 27, 2023 13:33
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I’d asssumed it was doing an Amadeus style “this is like 65% not even trying to be real” dramatisation
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Nov 27, 2023 13:42
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bowmore posted:delicatessen Was going to post this
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well why not posted:I’d asssumed it was doing an Amadeus style “this is like 65% not even trying to be real” dramatisation Good comparison imo
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Nov 27, 2023 13:56
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josh04 posted:I don't think it needs much explaining to unpack the symbolism of Napoleon firing a cannon at a great and ancient construction such that an imposing foreign leader immediately collapses before him. Can you unpack the symbolism, because I actually don't get it.
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Nov 27, 2023 15:07
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Napoleon's rise to power represents a threat not just to the individual leaders he ends up at war with, but to the entire structure of European power at the time. He's literally aiming high.
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Nov 27, 2023 15:20
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I liked SALTBURN starring yer man foaken Barry. It is really funny to go online and see how many people absolutely loathe Emerald Fennell.Anonymous Robot posted:Tampopo fans should check out Supermarket Woman. Great movie.
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Nov 27, 2023 15:27
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josh04 posted:Napoleon's rise to power represents a threat not just to the individual leaders he ends up at war with, but to the entire structure of European power at the time. He's literally aiming high. Weird take then, because revolutionary France is far more scary.
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Ridley Scott, correctly, treats historical fiction as sci-fi. In the commentary track for Gladiator, he points out a scene where two characters are sitting at a table in a marketplace and having a discussion. Apparently, the historians he consulted with objected to this scene because there’s no evidence of ancient Romans using tables in marketplaces this way - to which Scott’s response was along the lines of “of course they did! Why wouldn’t they?!” The problem of historical inaccuracy is not that it happens, but that it usually results in bad sci-fi like the lovely dieselpunk of The Imitation Game.
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Nov 27, 2023 15:31
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"The Imitation Game" as dieselpunk is exactly right. Good lord.Fangz posted:Weird take then, because revolutionary France is far more scary. Isn't this just congruent then? The shot heard round the world and all that.
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Nov 27, 2023 15:38
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I don't know what you mean. My point is that Napoleon's rise at the time was a marked improvement from the chaotic rule of the revolutionaries and the Directory, who had been at war with everyone for decades. A democracy switching to an Emperor nicely affirmed everyone's monarchist beliefs. He was able to make peace treaties afterwards. The American Revolution happened under royalist France. Fangz fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Nov 27, 2023 |
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Nov 27, 2023 15:55
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Napoleon's legacy is unquestionably a creation of Revolutionary France and whatever else you can say about him he shattered the ancien regime. Arguably it's the reason Europeans regard him with special horror in the first place. Preferable to a communist but an eternal adversary nevertheless.
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Made a Napoleon thread because MZ is using backchannels to bully me about it: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4048249
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