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Kylaer posted:As an aside it's so nice to have such an assortment of really good writers in our silly nerd books. I remember when I got into 40K, there was Abnett, Sandy Mitchell if you enjoyed the formula by which he wrote all his stories, and...Graham McNeil on a good day I guess, Storm of Iron was okay I recall...and otherwise it was real bottom-shelf trash. Now Black Library is publishing from a whole slew of genuinely skilled writers and it's awesome. Agreeing with this a lot. In recent years it really feels like Black Library is shooting well above par for tie-in fiction, particularly for a game setting.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Did we read the same book? Because I recall the little lords being dumb-cute lil pets that were constantly running around pranking each other and would occasionally get picked up and petted, I even recall one "cooing" in a comforting manner when petted by a plaguemarine in deep contemplation over something. i mean cat style creature as the highest possible compliment. they're treated like really disgusting kittens, running around falling off things and hissing at each other and causing a ruckus and whatever, clearly treated as pets by the crew.
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sharknado slashfic posted:Mephiston City of Light is a bit, but I personally wouldn't read that again if you paid me. Yeah we'll skip that, thanks. I think he wants a Tzeentch version of Lords of Silence and no one has written that yet. I'll recommend he checks out Ahriman.
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I absolutely love the nurglings in Warhawk (or is it Echoes of Eternity?), and I love how enamored the Death Guard are with them even more.
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Quick lore question. Has there ever been mention or depiction of a Celestial Lion being a part of the Deathwatch, or is that just asking for some workplace accidents?
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celewign posted:It’s one my my favorite omnibuses and I still love to reread the description of Slannesh. Bile disintegrating spiritually and physically under the direct gaze of Slaanesh themself: "Mindless figments of the collective unconsciousness."
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jadebullet posted:Quick lore question. Has there ever been mention or depiction of a Celestial Lion being a part of the Deathwatch, or is that just asking for some workplace accidents? There was a Celestial Lion librarian in the Deathwatch comic a few years ago.
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Black Griffon posted:I absolutely love the nurglings in Warhawk (or is it Echoes of Eternity?), and I love how enamored the Death Guard are with them even more. The thing I really loved about it in Warhawk is that the same DG marines who loved the nurglings were incredibly repulsed by them when Nurgle's veil temporary lifted after Mortarion's banishment and realized what they were
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God I love Hereticus. The train chapters are my favorite bits of 40k writing I think, and there's so much pain and heartbreak.Angry Lobster posted:The thing I really loved about it in Warhawk is that the same DG marines who loved the nurglings were incredibly repulsed by them when Nurgle's veil temporary lifted after Mortarion's banishment and realized what they were Really goes to prove that we, the readers, are in Nurgle's thrall, and considering the state of things I'd say that checks out.
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Black Griffon posted:God I love Hereticus. The train chapters are my favorite bits of 40k writing I think, and there's so much pain and heartbreak. I definitely am.
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Pyrolocutus posted:Bile disintegrating spiritually and physically under the direct gaze of Slaanesh themself: "Mindless figments of the collective unconsciousness." Shadows flickering on a wall in a cave one might say.
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Black Griffon posted:A slow death on an imp ship is having your leg crushed by some kind of auxiliary rudder piston in subsection 4A Thetus between armor plate Beta and Trius and dying alone five days later from heavy metal and radiation poisoning, having screamed yourself hoarse. A slow death on a chaos vessel is being stretched over months until you're thin enough and transparent enough to be the lens in a gun sight and then existing like that in the untimes of the warp for aeons, feeling every moment, never sleeping, begging every day for a space battle to end you. Here is a superb post by a poster who really understands Chaos   
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Safety Helmet posted:My opinion would be to read the 4 novels in order of publication date (Fire Caste, Spiral Dawn, Requiem Infernal, The Reverie). The first two are more typical IG stories accompanied with Fehervari’s literary style. The third and especially the fourth book are immersed in the style. I’m not sure I would have gotten hooked if I jumped In the deep end. Fehervari should get on with it and write his next novel. I'm jonesing here.
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What are some (good) novels covering more recent events? I’ve been sort of out of the fiction loop since 8E, and though I’ve read a lot of high-level stuff to get caught up to where the setting in general is, some books with more specifics would be nice. Bonus points if they are about or heavily feature AdMech.
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Anno posted:What are some (good) novels covering more recent events? I’ve been sort of out of the fiction loop since 8E, and though I’ve read a lot of high-level stuff to get caught up to where the setting in general is, some books with more specifics would be nice. The current setting revolves around Cadia falling and the rift opening, Guilliman's return, and then The Lion returning. Cadia Stands, Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion, Devastation of Baal, Dark Imperium, The Lion: Sons of the Forrest in that order (I think, im unsure where Dark Imperium stands with the recent re-write) would catch you up. The first three listed are the first books in their own series. You can backfill as needed.
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I'm a quarter into TEATD2 so mostly ignoring spoilers, but having the remnant of the Solar Fleet keep their voices down so the heretics don't hear them was a real Wing Commander moment. Could someone tell Abnett sound doesn't carry through space? While you're at it, tell John French that spaceships don't stop moving if their engines are off. I know this is just pulpy poo poo, but stuff like this really does make one want to waaaagh.
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The enemy isn't constrained by the same physics everyone else is. As Horus will spectacularly demonstrate llater.
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moths posted:The enemy isn't constrained by the same physics everyone else is. I absolutely love the scenes of Angron standing out on the prow of his ship screaming I HATE YOU DAD  and it being audible despite the absolute physical impossibility. He's just that angry.
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Anno posted:What are some (good) novels covering more recent events? I’ve been sort of out of the fiction loop since 8E, and though I’ve read a lot of high-level stuff to get caught up to where the setting in general is, some books with more specifics would be nice. Seconding The Great Work as the book you'd probably want to start with, having the most ad mech in it.
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Philthy posted:The current setting revolves around Cadia falling and the rift opening, Guilliman's return, and then The Lion returning. Don't you mean Fall of Cadia?
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I'm pleasantly surprised by Noah Van Nguyen's Yndrasta Age of Sigmar audiobook, just hit the first interlude. The worldbuilding is pretty good so far, and Emma Gregory has voices for the other, more mortal, characters that stray far from her usual Sister of Battle/Celestine/narrator/Minthara/Yndrasta voice. I want to say she does some icelandic accents but my untrained american ear can't say for sure. I'm still leery about the overall plot being "flying storm angel wants to punch out a mythical god kraken of the deep without having a plan for if it just goes underwater" so hopefully there's a good story there. bagrada fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Nov 29, 2023 |
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Anno posted:What are some (good) novels covering more recent events? I’ve been sort of out of the fiction loop since 8E, and though I’ve read a lot of high-level stuff to get caught up to where the setting in general is, some books with more specifics would be nice. Mike Brooks' Brutal Kunnin' is a great novel about Orks and the hapless Techpriests whose forge world they're invading. Also he did the aforementioned The Lion: Son of the Forest, and Renegades: Harrowmaster, a book that actually makes the Alpha Legion (at least some of them) likeable.
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I think Brutal Kunnin' is probably a good time, but after digesting it I've landed on the opinion that the audiobook narrator does a pretty bad job, and as a result, I don't really remember much of the book beyond the broad points. He's sounds fine for like a fuckin... GW youtuber or something. Kylaer posted:Here is a superb post by a poster who really understands Chaos aw, always nice when my most deranged qualities are appreciated Black Griffon fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Nov 29, 2023 |
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Thanks for the replies folks. I think I’ll start with the Cawl book since it seems like a standalone and then maybe start Dark Imperium.
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Anno posted:Thanks for the replies folks. I think I’ll start with the Cawl book since it seems like a standalone and then maybe start Dark Imperium. Good call I can't remember if I did Cawl or DI Book 2 first but those four fit well together.
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Anno posted:Thanks for the replies folks. I think I’ll start with the Cawl book since it seems like a standalone and then maybe start Dark Imperium. Just be aware that The Great Work is the current "last" book in the new time line
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AnEdgelord posted:Don't you mean Fall of Cadia? I don't think so. I'm reading a synopsis of Cadia Stands and it looks like the right book that I read a while back. It details the fall of Cadia from the perspective of Cadian troops and some Space Marines. https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/7kftoy/cadia_stands_or_does_it_spoilers_cadia_stands_by/
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notaspy posted:Just be aware that The Great Work is the current "last" book in the new time line Good to know! Does any industrious Warham fan out there keep some kind of timeline of this stuff?
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Anno posted:Good to know! Does any industrious Warham fan out there keep some kind of timeline of this stuff? https://www.trackofwords.com/2021/01/10/black-library-new-40k-reading-list/ I use this one, it's missing a few in the middle but apart from that it's fine
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I got through about a quarter of The Great Work and so far it’s a fantastic read. Cawl is a delightful scenery chewer. Thanks again for the recommendation.
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Infinite and the Divine was incredibly cool and singularly unique as far as wild adventure across space and time, but honestly I think twice dead king might supplant it in my mind as I'm going through now. I just love how rich and emotional these gotdamn killer robits are. Lots of super memorable characters.
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Anno posted:I got through about a quarter of The Great Work and so far it’s a fantastic read. Cawl is a delightful scenery chewer. Thanks again for the recommendation. I swear Guy Haley writes most of his good scenes as if they're meant for the big screen. The crescendo tank fight in Baneblade, the undersea walk in Titandeath...and the weird slapstick comedy opening scene in The Great Work that doesn't fit the rest of the book at all, but it would translate perfectly to a show or movie, two bumbling tech adepts doing everything short of accidentally sticking their  s in electrical sockets as they try not to get shot down by their own allies.
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Kylaer posted:I swear Guy Haley writes most of his good scenes as if they're meant for the big screen. The crescendo tank fight in Baneblade, the undersea walk in Titandeath...and the weird slapstick comedy opening scene in The Great Work that doesn't fit the rest of the book at all, but it would translate perfectly to a show or movie, two bumbling tech adepts doing everything short of accidentally sticking their Yeah I read like two pages of it and had to go back and read it again once I understood the tone it was going for. Unexpected but very entertaining.
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Sharkopath posted:Infinite and the Divine was incredibly cool and singularly unique as far as wild adventure across space and time, but honestly I think twice dead king might supplant it in my mind as I'm going through now. I just love how rich and emotional these gotdamn killer robits are. Lots of super memorable characters. Both works are great in different ways. IatD is an action comedy, and ultimately a bit fluffy. neither main character learns a drat thing from what they went through, and that's a big part of the joke. Twice Dead is a serious character study with a strong arc and an excellent plot for the character to be in while they develop. In a way it's like trying to pick which is better between Alien and Aliens. They're both at the very peak of their respective genres and are very different movies. The only possible criteria is based on which genre you enjoy more, and that's subjective and says nothing about the actual quality of the films.
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Of course, it's just comparing two things thst are both very good. Although I do think Rath's ccombat scenes tend to drag, for a book that has a lot of them. It'd the only real negative criticism I can think of for what was a very funny and very cool adventure. It's cool that necron fans are feasting in recent years though, I wish Eldar got books as good. Haleys Valedor is very cool and I even enjoyed Thorpe's cancelled Phoenix lord series, and that kinds feels like all they've had for a while. Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Nov 30, 2023 |
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Philthy posted:I don't think so. I'm reading a synopsis of Cadia Stands and it looks like the right book that I read a while back. It details the fall of Cadia from the perspective of Cadian troops and some Space Marines. Fall of Cadia is the new one released a few months ago. It's also about (obviously) the fall of Cadia, but is written more like the old Space Marine Battles books. So it's multiple viewpoints from Creed and Abbadon down to an IG officer level. It's a little puzzling why they revisited the destruction of Cadia well in 2023, but FoC is a much better book than the 2018 original take. If you're going to read one, read the recent one.
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