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So the former warlord that Ace defeated is probably the man with the burn scars, right
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good ch.
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Crosspeice posted:Kuma explaining the Nika Nika world liberation plan to an increasingly disgusted Luffy: Ah whatever you'll figure it out in like 3 years, I'll push this memory out of you. See you never, God King Joy D. Boy, and don't damage that hat!!! lol dammit and I thought we were done. OOODDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Nov 29, 2023 22:20
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It makes sense that Ace was offered a warlord position knowing that he defeated a former one. Otherwise, it didn't really explain what made him so exceptional in a sea full of exceptional pirates, especially a rookie one at that. edit: don't memories return to their original user after a period of time? there's no way that memory was kept hidden for so long. Unless it did come back and Luffy STILL doesn't remember kuma lol
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Nov 29, 2023 22:21
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jassa posted:
I might be alone here but the way I interpreted the end of this chapter is that Kuma was heading toward Windmill Village, possibly on personal business (checking on Luffy for Dragon? trying to research amnesiac Sabo's history? just finding cool places to tell Bonnie about?) but the call from the WG preempted whatever he was doing there. Sort've like a near miss "he almost encountered Luffy years ago but got called away at the last second"
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Nov 29, 2023 22:34
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Julias posted:TCB Version is out for 1100: gently caress you i had to stop and look away and cry when Kuma said "i'm so grateful" 
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Nov 29, 2023 22:38
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Star Platinum posted:So the former warlord that Ace defeated is probably the man with the burn scars, right hm interesting.
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Nov 29, 2023 22:40
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yum posted:It makes sense that Ace was offered a warlord position knowing that he defeated a former one. Otherwise, it didn't really explain what made him so exceptional in a sea full of exceptional pirates, especially a rookie one at that. Luffy remembers but has no idea it was Kuma because he wore a different hat that day
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Nov 29, 2023 23:00
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CharlestonJew posted:Luffy remembers but has no idea it was Kuma because he wore a different hat that day Yeah, people are jumping through a lot of hoops to figure out how Luffy might not remember something unrelated to food or adventure.
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Nov 29, 2023 23:28
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yum posted:It makes sense that Ace was offered a warlord position knowing that he defeated a former one. Otherwise, it didn't really explain what made him so exceptional in a sea full of exceptional pirates, especially a rookie one at that. Unless he took that memory in and is gonna let it go back to luffy when he arrives...
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Gyges posted:Yeah, people are jumping through a lot of hoops to figure out how Luffy might not remember something unrelated to food or adventure.
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Nov 29, 2023 23:33
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mabels big day posted:Kizaru doing the Nika dance is crazy I was completely shocked by it, isnt that like kinda treason? Also, is Alpha a codename for Kalifa, or her mom or what? If its her mom it's sort of crazy that weve seen both of a minor villains parents in separate flashbacks 800 chapters apart. Does the world government just get its best soldiers to gently caress each other in a weird eugenics program for super soldiers? yum posted:
Not if the bubble is consumed or held back in some way. Kuma could have just hucked a passing deer into the memory bubble and now its got all those memories it cant do anything with and which wont return to luffy. Also, frankly, if I were Kuma I dont know if Id have been against throwing animals into the old peoples pain bubbles over taking it myself. Meme Emulator fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Nov 30, 2023 |
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Nov 29, 2023 23:50
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kumas built different
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Eiba posted:Right, but even Luffy should remember someone as visually distinct as Kuma. How often does he see anything resembling Kuma- that size, with bear ears... wait... Luffy is going to remember but he'll think Kuma was just a bear! Just another one of the forest creatures he's constantly fighting. Did Luffy need to be told to bow to the Drum Island hiking bears?
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Dragon can't visit his son but kuma under the guide of the wg can
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Interesting comment Kizaru made that the snowy Egghead Island is ‘no Punk Hazard’. Presumably this portion of the flashback is set before that island gets transformed, but I wonder what kind of island it was?
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I see Oda has realised its pretty weird the government never tried to do anything about the obvious God fruit man Monkey D. Joyboy and is finally working in an explanation about that.
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Meme Emulator posted:I was completely shocked by it, isnt that like kinda treason? It can't be Kalifa since she'd still have been in her years long deep cover for Iceberg, I think.
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I think the purpose of Kuma's Luffy visit will be to establish why he helped the straw hats at Saobody. He might discover the gum-gum/Nika link somehow. He doesn't necessarily have to have a face-to-face meeting with Luffy to do this. e: It might be that he's asked to retrieve the Nika fruit, sees Luffy and joins the dots
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Meme Emulator posted:Also, is Alpha a codename for Kalifa, or her mom or what? If its her mom it's sort of crazy that weve seen both of a minor villains parents in separate flashbacks 800 chapters apart. most of the Cipher Pol are orphans (or children straight up sold to the Navy) iirc, so from there it’s not a crazy reach to assume Alpha’s Kalifa’s older sibling and they were both “adopted” around the same time.
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Plutonis posted:That's the first I heard of Ace beating the Shichibukai before Kuma. Is it from the Ace novels? Maybe he beat one up, but maybe his "exploits" mean something else.
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drat, what a good chapter. The closer we get to present day, the sadder it gets  It's neat to see a flashback to like... right before the series started, essentially. I hope we get context around both of Kuma's previous meetings with the Strawhats, that would be cool. Meme Emulator posted:I was completely shocked by it, isnt that like kinda treason? Why would Kizaru know that? Nika is void century stuff, presumably the connection to the Buccaneer line is why they're so despised by the World Government, but also it means that nobody else even knows about it. Remember: Nobody besides the Gorosei and presumably Imu even know the true nature of Luffy's fruit. He just thinks Gear 5 is a weird extra form.
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Begemot posted:Remember: Nobody besides the Gorosei and presumably Imu even know the true nature of Luffy's fruit. He just thinks Gear 5 is a weird extra form. I think Kaido has a clue but doesn't have the full story like the Elder Stars do. I think he knows of the legend and that such a messianic figure would fit into his objective of overturning the world order, also even if he didn't know it at first glance, someone who could beat him could only be Joyboy since nobody else would be capable of that feat.
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Next chapter is gonna be brutal I can feel it.
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Oda reminding everyone one last time that Cowgirl Robin is the best Robin outfit.
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Funky Valentine posted:Oda reminding everyone one last time that Cowgirl Robin is the best Robin outfit. Cowgirl Robin is great, but the Enies Lobby fit was her best.
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Gyges posted:Kalifa's sister is absolutely either going to gently caress up and say something about what's really happening that Bonny overhears, or will be cruel for the sake of cruelty because she doesn't think Bonny can do anything. And a super-powered pre-teen is nearly as volatile as a super-powered teenager. Perhaps more so if they tell her they tricked her daddy. ... though stopping to think about it, she was probably already undercover at Water 7 by this point.
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Gyges posted:Cowgirl Robin is great, but the Enies Lobby fit was her best. Strong World also a contender
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Best Robin outfit is def cowboy but the egghead outfit is pretty great too.
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Oh man, that panel of them all dancing at Egghead....  Kuma meets young Luffy, decided to Paw-Paw push Luffy's desire to be King of the Pirates out of him, is immediately sent flying halfway across the ocean by the recoil. Seriously! 
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Supremezero posted:I was kind of assuming it was literally just Kalifa, and the k not being there was just a standard spy pseudonym From what I can gather it seems like Kuma's visit to Vegapunk happened sometime less than 4 years before the start of the series, and CP9's mission to infiltrate Water 7 started at least 5 years before start so yeah Kalifa is already on that mission at the time this Alpha person appears in the flahback.
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Kart Barfunkel posted:Interesting comment Kizaru made that the snowy Egghead Island is ‘no Punk Hazard’. Presumably this portion of the flashback is set before that island gets transformed, but I wonder what kind of island it was? Punk Hazard seemed to have a pretty temperate/tropical climate before Caesar gassed it. You can see tiny bits of it during the flashback near the end of ch 684, but they show more in the anime. Lots of lush vegetation.
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Last Celebration posted:most of the Cipher Pol are orphans (or children straight up sold to the Navy) iirc, so from there it’s not a crazy reach to assume Alpha’s Kalifa’s older sibling and they were both “adopted” around the same time. Kalifa’s dad was in Spandine's CP9 https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Laskey
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Star Platinum posted:Kalifa’s dad was in Spandine's CP9 https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Laskey Hereditary Assholery strikes again.
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So when do we find out that Saturn and co also violated the deal in some way we don't yet know about because they are literally compelled like lungs needing air to be complete and utter assholes?
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WaIting for the reveal that they gave Bonney the disease on purpose to lure Kuma into this deal.
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Cornwind Evil posted:So when do we find out that Saturn and co also violated the deal in some way we don't yet know about because they are literally compelled like lungs needing air to be complete and utter assholes? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess chapter 1101
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