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I think people forget how good the AHL is, a lot of those top end AHL lifer guys could easily play complimentary offensive minutes in the NHL, they just rarely get an extended chance because of the kinds of players NHL teams generally prefer in the bottom six. Reminds me of how good Brian Gibbons looked at times for Pittsburgh and New Jersey. e: Also speaking of the AHL, Brandt Clarke is up to 20 points in 20 games. The Kings lost Durzi and Walker and are still Doughty/Roy/Spence/Clarke on the right lol T-Bone fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Dec 6, 2023 |
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The AHL top scorer list is routinely filled with relatively old lifers over top prospects. Sometimes that's a matter of games played since a prospect might bounce up and down, but also those guys are still some of the best hockey players in the world. They're just not in the top ~800. Every single one of them is better than Ryan Reaves though.
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Dec 6, 2023 00:11
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Aphrodite posted:The AHL top scorer list is routinely filled with relatively old lifers over top prospects. Brodzinki was/is the leading AHL scorer pretty much (25 points in 16 games versus the leader is 26 points in19 games) This is his most productive season so far though and yeah he's kinda that weird spot of really good AHL player but not thought of as a real top six NHL player and he's not young anymore per sports years Am totally ahppy for himt o come up and put do some good next to kreider an zbad though
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Dec 6, 2023 00:19
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Levitate posted:Brodzinki was/is the leading AHL scorer pretty much (25 points in 16 games versus the leader is 26 points in19 games) I think it helps we don't have a caveman coach who thinks he only belongs stapled to Goodrow on the 4th line, lets him learn from mistakes, and actually coaches a system.
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Dec 6, 2023 00:23
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Dec 6, 2023 00:33
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kill me now posted:The islanders have Oliver Wahlstrom The Oilers twitter-verse (x-verse?) seem to believe the Oilers will be after a forward if anything, so maybe Wahlstrom is a good fit. I think Broberg would be a good fit on a structured team like the Islanders.
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Szechwan posted:None of this matters, tonight is the Hughes Bowl gently caress 'em
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Matt Zerella posted:I think it helps we don't have a caveman coach who thinks he only belongs stapled to Goodrow on the 4th line, lets him learn from mistakes, and actually coaches a system. Gallant was so very much a "chemstry" coach and just hoped guys would make it work rather than giv e them a framework to work withing. It's werid to give Lavy all this praise but honestlyt he is a pretty good coach overall. I gave him poo poo when he was on the flyers for being an all in attacking offense guy but I was probably thinking of it more how he encourages the D to jump in a lot which is pretty modern NHL coaching at this point and he's all for defending propely to encourager tunovers and transition offense
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Dec 6, 2023 00:46
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there's generally a handful of guys in the AHL who could turn into kinda like Jonathan Marchessault. He pretty much has/had the exact statistical profile of all of those guys. Tampa recognized this and did it with Cory Conacher (who actually had the best AHL stats out of all of them), Tyler Johnson, Marchessault, Yanni Gourde, I'm sure probably others I'm forgetting.. As T-Bone said, they're not going to be guys that carry, but I wouldn't be shocked if any of those bubble guys could play third wheel to Zibanejad-Kreider or Crosby-Kunitz or Thornton-Heatley or any of those types of combos. I think (as with most things) a lot of teams are stuck in the 90s and think that if a smaller guy is lighting up the AHL but hasn't stuck, it's because they're not big/gritty/good enough to play in the NHL in the top 6 and especially not big/gritty/whatever enough to play on the 3rd/4th line. Whatever team figures this out and plugs in AHL skill guys as third wheels repeatably while spending money on core star duos is going to have a pretty good advantage. My heart weeps though for the Darren Haydars of the world born tragically 10-15 years too early. There but for the grace of God go the Hugheses
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Dec 6, 2023 00:50
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Remember when everyone was obsessed with Rob Schremp
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Starsfan posted:The Oilers twitter-verse (x-verse?) seem to believe the Oilers will be after a forward if anything, so maybe Wahlstrom is a good fit. I think Broberg would be a good fit on a structured team like the Islanders. Broberg is 33-31 in GF over his oilers career, even if its mostly been in a sheltered role. His biggest problem has been he keeps getting moved around between the AHL and NHL and so he never gets to play games. He's been playing ~50 games a year which is just criminal for a top prospect.
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Szechwan posted:None of this matters, tonight is the Hughes Bowl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0epSgm8lmos&t=104s
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Broberg strikes me as exactly the kind of player who will thrive once he's actually given a chance somewhere. Defensemen generally seem to take longer too. Seems like Edmonton trading him would be a bad idea, so they probably will.
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He's very skilled, he just needs to play actual games somewhere to see what he actually is. But I don't doubt that he's a bottom pairing guy RIGHT NOW. Trade Kulak instead.
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:there's generally a handful of guys in the AHL who could turn into kinda like Jonathan Marchessault. He pretty much has/had the exact statistical profile of all of those guys. Tampa recognized this and did it with Cory Conacher (who actually had the best AHL stats out of all of them), Tyler Johnson, Marchessault, Yanni Gourde, I'm sure probably others I'm forgetting.. As T-Bone said, they're not going to be guys that carry, but I wouldn't be shocked if any of those bubble guys could play third wheel to Zibanejad-Kreider or Crosby-Kunitz or Thornton-Heatley or any of those types of combos. I'll always be pissed the rangers passed on marschessault because of fuckin' torts or whatever
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Levitate posted:I'll always be pissed the rangers passed on marschessault because of fuckin' torts or whatever I mean yeah but I also can’t blame him too much. 29 teams could have figured it out. I remember thinking “drat that’s a lot of points” but also you could have made the case about Jason Krog. and plenty of other guys. and someone probably should have. It’s a miracle we got Zuke, especially after he went overseas after his first stint. An undrafted tiny not-so-fast playmaker. Thankfully he’s so nasty defensively too that coaches saw his usefulness on any line. And he was worth an extra few points a year on the shootout.
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It's crazy how long people held on to the "small guys can't be that good" thing. I remember arguing for weeks with some guy on here for weeks that Johnny Gaudreau's ceiling was much higher than "Tyler Ennis"
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:I mean yeah but I also can’t blame him too much. 29 teams could have figured it out. I remember thinking “drat that’s a lot of points” but also you could have made the case about Jason Krog. and plenty of other guys. and someone probably should have. They had marchessault in their system though and just said"nah this guy sucks" thou and let him go i guess yeah it wasn't a clear cut "this guy is awesome" but still stings
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Levitate posted:Gallant was so very much a "chemstry" coach and just hoped guys would make it work rather than giv e them a framework to work withing. It's werid to give Lavy all this praise but honestlyt he is a pretty good coach overall. I gave him poo poo when he was on the flyers for being an all in attacking offense guy but I was probably thinking of it more how he encourages the D to jump in a lot which is pretty modern NHL coaching at this point and he's all for defending propely to encourager tunovers and transition offense Excuse me, Lavvy was not exclusively an offensive first coach in Philly. https://youtu.be/mjXclnt1wAI?si=zMkQdyqMa8Qs499t
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I always thought Laviolette was a good coach in terms of implementing modern systems. He was just terrible in terms of player evaluation on Washington and he seemed worse than the average coach in terms of hating younger players.
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Rangers trash tonight but this was  https://twitter.com/hayyyshayyy/status/1732221175353258352
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Matt Zerella posted:Rangers trash tonight but this was it's too bad Lucic only runs women these days
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Very upset that the Sharks won but I just can't be mad at Hertl throwing down a hatty.
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Matt Zerella posted:Rangers trash tonight but this was Hasek coming out WOOOOOAH
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Remember when everyone was obsessed with Rob Schremp He would have thrived in today's game I tells ya 
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Habibi posted:Very upset that the Sharks won but I just can't be mad at Hertl throwing down a hatty. Same. Going to the game next week because tickets are $14 on Gametime.
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Duckman2008 posted:I can’t remember if it was 2020 or 2021, but one of those playoffs half the team got covid right before the playoffs because some of the dumbasses decided they just had to go to some bars during the middle of covid loving people up, and I think before they had the vaccine (so prob that 2020 playoffs). Wouldn't the whole bubble concept have made going to a bar impossible that first year? Or am I mistakenly applying what the Canadian division did to the other three?
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kalensc posted:Wouldn't the whole bubble concept have made going to a bar impossible that first year? Or am I mistakenly applying what the Canadian division did to the other three? The Canadian division was the year after. I don't remember what rules specifically prevented the NHL from operating in Canada during the playoffs (though lockdowns were in full effect), but the bubble playoff proposal was needed to get them an exemption and allow them to run at all. (Cross-border travel would have been impossible with the requisite quarantine period, I'm sure there were some restrictions around in-country travel as well.)
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Matt Zerella posted:Rangers trash tonight but this was To be fair, he wasn't getting any help from the guys in front of them all night, so he was playing the puck a lot. Sens goalie looked great, but oh man, they just took way too many ridiculous risks starting in the second period and got burned on a lot of them. Third game in four days, which doesn't help, though the Sens had two days off after a back-to-back. Somehow, the Sens have also played fewer games than every other team - that was their 20th, while others range from 22-27.
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https://twitter.com/Media_Sens/status/1732407140206428666 Oh this should go well!!!
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Senior Advisor to the Coaching Staff lmao holy poo poo Staois just loving fire them already
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Hughes and Hughes won the Hughes Bowl e: Good showing by Hughes though
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East coast so I don't see him much but poo poo is Quinn good.
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It’s impressive how well the Canucks are doing with Tyler Myers playing 18-20 minutes a night. Almost every goal against he’s somewhere on the ice wildly out of position Not sure who to credit for coining the nickname Chaos Giraffe but it’s accurate
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The Buffalo Sabres are currently in position to draft 6th overall, going by points %. Yeah, that checks out. This team is garbage.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/Media_Sens/status/1732407140206428666 Senior Advisor Advising Seniorly
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