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Senerio posted:Just follow the recommended reading order gimme dat step 6 link
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Nov 28, 2023 06:23
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redleader posted:gimme dat step 6 link https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3937069&pagenumber=89&perpage=40
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sebmojo posted:yeah he'd be a fun guy to have a beer with, couple of laughs, maybe a quick relentless ten thousand year vengeance campaign Look, dude knows how to really nurse a grudge and as a champion grudge-holder I gotta give respect where it's due. Lyctorize Me At Once holy poo poo.
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Nov 28, 2023 15:48
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Happy Landfill posted:
I thought it was summer 25 release?
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Collateral posted:I thought it was summer 25 release? Has there been an official update?
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Dec 4, 2023 16:41
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Still no official release announcement. Only placeholder dates on sales pages
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Happy Landfill posted:
Still trying to parse Nona the Ninth, thanks.
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Dec 4, 2023 18:23
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lines posted:Oh it's going to be so exciting when he gets his comeuppance. I wonder what form that will take? Series ending spoilers: ”Oh, Harrow, that’s it! My big mistake was bringing you all together, having you learn the eightfold word together. Next time I’ll spread you out so it’s more of a slow burn.” Velius fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Dec 4, 2023 |
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Dec 4, 2023 19:01
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Velius posted:Series ending spoilers: Think of how much could have gone differently if he'd clearly started his call for new lyctors with, "I want you all to work together on this and elevate each other. I desire a full cohort." Probably not that much different given the people involved, but maybe a little.
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Dec 4, 2023 20:12
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I want 3 things out of life: 1 - To be known as Necrolord Prime 2 - An expanding empire based on planet killing and revenge 3 - Healthy, supportive friends
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Dec 5, 2023 02:25
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4 - Alecto the Ninth to come out
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Dec 5, 2023 02:43
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disposablewords posted:Think of how much could have gone differently if he'd clearly started his call for new lyctors with, "I want you all to work together on this and elevate each other. I desire a full cohort." I continue to wonder to this day exactly what he expected out of that setup.
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StumblyWumbly posted:I want 3 things out of life: See this is why I'm still Team John
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Rand Brittain posted:I continue to wonder to this day exactly what he expected out of that setup. I do wonder if he had an overestimation of people's opinion of him as emperor 10k years and one unending war after the initial batch. Sure these new potential lyctors loved him, but did they love him as much as his original followers? And without that unwavering trust (or faith if you will) the number of even attempts at the process was going to be low key alone successes. The failure of that experiment is more proof of John's hubris.
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I've always been curious about what Jod would do if everyone learned about how Lyctors work, went "Wow, no thanks." and just didn't do it. Would he keep them all in Canaan House until they said yes? Would he rejigger all their brains until they all decided "Wait, no, this is the best idea ever."? He couldn't just let them go back to their respective Houses with that information. Simplest solution would be killing them all and telling everyone else "There was an accident with the process, they blew up, super sorry."
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Part of what I was alluding to in my Good Place reference is in theory Jod can kill, then resurrect everyone in the nine houses again, alter their memories and try again. Presumably he doesn’t want to, because he still seems obsessed with revenge and he seemingly can’t get at the people out system and starting over would set him back. But it’s demonstrably within his power...
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I'd think if the house heir thunderdome didn't work out he'd pivot to finding some real martyrs among his cult to turn into disposable lyctors. What's a couple dozen souls every decade? "You are being given the greatest honor, your name will be written in the mithreaum, now go kamikaze that Eldritch horror"
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Velius posted:Part of what I was alluding to in my Good Place reference is in theory Jod can kill, then resurrect everyone in the nine houses again, alter their memories and try again. Presumably he doesn’t want to, because he still seems obsessed with revenge and he seemingly can’t get at the people out system and starting over would set him back. But it’s demonstrably within his power... Actual resurrection seems to come with a high price, what with the Beasts and all.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:Actual resurrection seems to come with a high price, what with the Beasts and all. If we take statement that at face value, but it’s impossible to know if it’s true. Telling everyone “It’s really hard and I can’t do it anymore” is a good way to prevent them asking any more detailed questions about it.
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disposablewords posted:Think of how much could have gone differently if he'd clearly started his call for new lyctors with, "I want you all to work together on this and elevate each other. I desire a full cohort." Agaragon posted:I've always been curious about what Jod would do if everyone learned about how Lyctors work, went "Wow, no thanks." and just didn't do it. Would he keep them all in Canaan House until they said yes? Would he rejigger all their brains until they all decided "Wait, no, this is the best idea ever."? He couldn't just let them go back to their respective Houses with that information. Simplest solution would be killing them all and telling everyone else "There was an accident with the process, they blew up, super sorry." Possibly these two things are related? If people are working together and sharing information, it's more likely they'll end up having a discussion about whether it's a good idea at all. Whereas if everyone is isolated and competing then they'll rush ahead to avoid losing without thinking too hard about what it means to win. Zorak of Michigan posted:Actual resurrection seems to come with a high price, what with the Beasts and all.
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That's what Jod said, I've no idea if it's even accurate at this point
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Qwertycoatl posted:I think the resurrection beasts are a consequence of the killing, not the resurrection. They're basically super ghosts produced when the whole planet is suddenly murdered. HtN/NtN spoilers: I'm currently re-listening to the Harrow audiobook and the resurrection beasts seem specific to our solar system being annihilated and resurrected as the "Dominicus" system.. but: the lyctors kill planets by "flipping" the planet's thalergy into thanergy then going into the river and killing the panicked/suddenly un-anchored soul. Maybe the souls would become new beasts if they weren't quickly killed in the river? They use a stopwatch with Harrow to make sure she kills the soul as soon as possible.
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mewse posted:HtN/NtN spoilers: That was how I took it, they were making drat sure to prevent creating any new RBs or anything RB-adjacent when doing that.
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Qwertycoatl posted:Possibly these two things are related? If people are working together and sharing information, it's more likely they'll end up having a discussion about whether it's a good idea at all. Whereas if everyone is isolated and competing then they'll rush ahead to avoid losing without thinking too hard about what it means to win. yeah i think it's exactly this.
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mewse posted:HtN/NtN spoilers: hmm, i thought this was explicitly stated?
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It was, yeah, but again, can we trust who was saying it?
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redleader posted:hmm, i thought this was explicitly stated? Probably, my memory/comprehension is very bad
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Agaragon posted:Simplest solution would be killing them all and telling everyone else "There was an accident with the process, they blew up, super sorry."
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silvergoose posted:It was, yeah, but again, can we trust who was saying it? true, but this seems like a thing where there's no incentive to lie
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redleader posted:true, but this seems like a thing where there's no incentive to lie we can't assume that it isn't connected to something that is worth lying about. that's the problem when you're dealing with a gaslighting narcissist, even if it seems completely innocuous it may well turn out to be An Entire Thing
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Velius posted:Series ending spoilers:
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Could John rewrite memories without having to kill someone first? Harrow+Ianthe managed to do it, for a time, having been a lyctor for days. I think this would be his favored approach, seeing as he likes seeing himself as benevolent.
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I don't know if John can actually rewrite memories as opposed to just erasing them.
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We don't know, I've always thought it went along with resurrecting people, but that's just a guess.
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He's not exactly surprised at the concept when he notices that Harrow's temporal lobe has been tampered with.
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He rebuilt his whole body from first principles after being exploded, I think he's probably able to rewrite brains
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Agaragon posted:I've always been curious about what Jod would do if everyone learned about how Lyctors work, went "Wow, no thanks." and just didn't do it. Would he keep them all in Canaan House until they said yes? Would he rejigger all their brains until they all decided "Wait, no, this is the best idea ever."? Well, Ianthe would murder and eat Babs no matter what. A couple of the more angsty or devoted Cavs (Jeannemary? Marta??) might try to force Lyctorhood on their necromancers like Cristabel and Alfred are implied to have done. I think John would settle for 2-3 new Lyctors and the remaining duos would just get lobotomized via Necrolord and sent home Or get Accidented on the way home if John couldn't be bothered that day and sent Gideon/Augustine/Mercymorn to handle new Lyctor intake
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I think Muir has already said that if Cytherea hadn't shown up, it would still have been just Ianthe who made Lyctor.
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