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ImpAtom posted:Eh, it's the last time he'll do anything in the entire series, might as well give him a fun close out.
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:this all kinda makes me wonder if jjk will be remembered as mid. I think there's still room to cook but I'm not going to pretend Culling Game doesn't have issues As long as Gege nails the ending in a meaningful way that gives Yuji/Megumi/Sukuna/Kenjaku proper closure then I think the series will mostly be remembered fondly, even if it isn't put up there with the greats of shonen anime/manga. However, if the ending winds up being petty mediocre or flat out bad, it will probably wind up getting the "Bleach was good until soul society" treatment. "JJK was good until Shibuya."
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I will say that sometimes I feel like people either forget about Junpei or just kinda miss that his arc was very much a tone-setter: You have a kid get bullied, abused, manipulated, grotesquely mutilated and then killed while two primary antagonists straight-up share a maniacal laugh in Yuji's face about the fact that one of them is committing the murder and the other isn't going to do a thing about it even though he could. It's probably one of the worst things I've seen happen to a character in a shonen, and I'm struggling to come up with much that's really comparable. And I just kind of can't understand getting thru that and then getting pissed at the mulching in Shibuya. That arc made it very clear what kind of manga this was gonna be.
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Jerkface posted:Reading Shibuya was cool nobara excepting. However it is also contingent on the follow up being good. Culling game hugely dumb. Sours Shibuya in retrospect. Oh we had to endure all that and all we get is this now? Gross! I think you're all dumb as heck and the culling game has been fun as poo poo. Like you all seem to have a weird idea what the series was before shibuya cause the major antagonists were introduced immolating random waitresses and setting up a young man to turn into a horrid twisted freak after indulging his wishes of mutilating the people he hated in his life. Its the show where one characters big fight moment was her wholehearted willingness to hammer nails into her own bones to stun lock her opponents and the entire moral lesson from the start was "If you want to be a good person, don't be a sorcerer. You will die young and with regrets and will find very little peace in this world and you will need to abandon your humanity and sense to grow truly 'Strong' " And of course the second poo poo starts moving many many of them find themselves maimed or dead or worse. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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Dec 24, 2023 04:10
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I think you're all dumb as heck and the culling game has been fun as poo poo. the culling game has a bunch of cool individual things surrounded by some of the most uneven and stupid plotting imaginable
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Jerkface posted:the culling game has a bunch of cool individual things surrounded by some of the most uneven and stupid plotting imaginable It's not even on the low end of middle tier for shonen action plotting man. I'm sorry you're mad but that's just not true. For fucks sake, much more popular manga MHA has spent like the last 3 years on maybe 10 plot points and half of them are dead stops in the pacing to give the equivalent of Sumo Guy a sudden character arc and moment in the middle of the final battle. To think this even ranks is just silly. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:It's not even on the low end of middle tier for shonen action plotting man. I'm sorry you're mad but that's just not true. I mean that is literally what the last two fights have been in JJK. You can argue about execution but we're focusing on minor characters getting a huge push.
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ImpAtom posted:I mean that is literally what the last two fights have been in JJK. You can argue about execution but we're focusing on minor characters getting a huge push. No it's not, the character was the actual focus of at least a small arc and a major conflict that had a big character moment for Yuji. that's not the same as The guy with octopuss arms and the rock guy suddenly interrupting the climaxic final fight and open jean heart surgery to get an arc to themselves after having making 30 lines between them for hte whole manga. You're really stretching 'minor' to try and make it fit when he's not minor he's just newer to the story Has Deku even ever spoken to the rock kid directly once?
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MHA lost me a long time ago dont worry about that. I am not looking at this relatively. I am just saying i think on its own the writing and plotting of the CG has been trash. If you want relative you wouldn't say it's on par with chainsaw man, dandadan, hxh, or one piece would ya?
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I think you're all dumb as heck and the culling game has been fun as poo poo. All over your shoe, yes. Culling Games were random new assholes getting introduced, having Calvinball fights with each other or the established cast, and then dying or not before moving on to the next round of Calvinball, with points following the Who's Line standard. Bringing up Junpei is showing exactly how later JJK fails, because that was about death with consequences. People cared, there was buildup, there was emotional payoff, there was time to mourn. Shibuya on, deaths just get tossed aside and we go to the next round of smashing action figures against each other.
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there are other shonen that aren't BHA hard to believe, but it is true
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Shinjobi posted:there are other shonen that aren't BHA I'm aware, a lot of their pacing is also bad. That's why I said the bit about the CUlling game arc's not being even ranked as far as that's concerned.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:No it's not, the character was the actual focus of at least a small arc and a major conflict that had a big character moment for Yuji. I will phrase it 100% like this: The twinkling belly button dude has gotten more screentime and focus than Judgeman has even before his big plot twist. And I like Judgeman, he was my favorite part of the culling game, but he was only barely more relevant than the Sumo Guy until just now and I don't think anyone would have blinked if the end of his arc was 'turns himself in' I don't mind minor characters getting focus though. It is one of my favorite things in Shonen. I get way more hype when a smaller character gets a chance to shine. I don't consider 'we focus on someone besides Protag, Designated Rival or Fan Favorite' as wasted time. poo poo half the reason I love Fullmetal Alchemist more than most series is because loving *everyone* gets to shine. I loved Chimera Ants and almost none of the main cast is involved with like half the final fight. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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Shinjobi posted:there are other shonen that aren't BHA Bad hero academia
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I think you're all dumb as heck and the culling game has been fun as poo poo. Yes but the things you’re describing right here is not why the culling game is bad.
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I just want to know what the US stock market is like without the super energy CE jucing up the economy to make up for japan being a wasteland
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I want Maki and Yuta to kiss, there I said it
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jujutsu kaisen isnt bad. its ten times better than my hero academia, which i consider to be the worst popular manga. however, JJK is only half as good as chainsaw man, which in turn is maybe five percent as good as one piece. so, there is room for improvement
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Gologle posted:I want Maki and Yuta to kiss, there I said it deeply twisted sentiment but i can't deny that at this point it WOULD fit the trajectory of the series
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:It's not even on the low end of middle tier for shonen action plotting man. I'm sorry you're mad but that's just not true. I don't know why you want to compare the story to other manga when the problem most people really have is that writing has gotten shoddier since after Shibuya.
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Gologle posted:I want Maki and Yuta to kiss, there I said it I would settle for a gentle smile between the two of them as they beat up a bear or something
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I rank JJK on the lower end of the Best Shonens like One Piece and CSM. I really liked everything post Shibuya so it’s gone up a lot, but I don’t think it’ll breach those two series. I compare it more to stuff like Bleach, and I think JJK blows that series out of the water. It’s basically everything I wanted out of Bleach that I couldn’t get: consistent underlying themes, big cast of side characters, and cool bankai/domain expansion poses, but with a coherent battle system and the characters actually fighting with awesome choreography rather than just iai-style 1 shots with surprised faces and heh, nothing personal kid. I want to see my action figures smash into each other more than once.
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Blockhouse posted:Agreed. Watching the anime with the knowledge of where things go just really highlights all the negative aspects. We watch the entire cast get poo poo on for an arc and the payoff is...they go fight a bunch of bit characters who mostly don't matter so they can go onto the final arc where they all get poo poo on again. Cool. The big thing I'm getting from the adaptation of Shibuya is that a lot of my issues with JJK started earlier than I realized.
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An unbelievable feast for the Higuruma heads. God I love him so much. The lay off to him thinking he had understood the basics of amplification when watching Gojo fight. He is the man!!
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I think itd be really sick and funny if the comedian and lawyer guy introduced in this arc with the gimmickiest powers were the ones to defeat the overarching villains of the series and we're already 50% of the way there
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IMO Higuruma's past was probably the single best chapter of JJK and I've been invested in him since he's shown up. I was really glad to see him show up in the peanut gallery for the Gojo fight instead of being done after the Yuji fight. IMO he's been paying off really well. I like his talent being compared to Gojo because he's growth has been insane. Especially as he's figured it all out solo. I'm also a big Hakari fan so for me a lot of the new cast has owned even though I miss Nobara and Todo. The latter I find it very odd has never been mentioned at all. I really like Uraume comparing Hakari to Heian era sorcerers more than modern day ones. I didn't really like the weapon confiscation wrinkle. It felt logical and clicked together well (including why they hadn't thought to consider it) but it still was an unsatisfying narrative resolution. Sukuna not fighting the charges because he wanted to see the sword was sick though. I like much more where this latest chapter went. I do feel some nervousness about Sukuna taking the Executioners Sword or copying it but tbh I don't think that would make anything worse for that gang than it is now. Kusakabe just showing up to tank huge hits from big bads is so sick lol. He's cool. Also honestly mad respect to Ino for fighting in this. Was sick of him being a ratbag about Gojo during those discussions but he's cool again now. I'm curious if Sukuna has his domain expansion back or not. Is he just having fun (quite possible) or he can't just nuke them all right now. I wonder if the Nanami sword is to set up a Gojo cursed object turn. Sukuna also still has his fire. God there is so much lol. I'm very stressed each week. I hope Higuruma doesn't die. Not just because he's probably my favourite character now. I feel like someone (Yuji) believing in him and that he can atone in living would be a suitable part of his arc.
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I feel like receiving hype like "could he be Gojo tier??" is almost so big a death flag that it might be subverted. Next chapter opening on a peaceful flashback with an inner monologue from Sukuna about how many promising upstarts like Higuruma he's ground into dust: Hopefully something more interesting happens!
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Tosk posted:I feel like receiving hype like "could he be Gojo tier??" is almost so big a death flag that it might be subverted. It turns out the flashback is from Sukuna at the airport.
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chiasaur11 posted:It turns out the flashback is from Sukuna at the airport. lol
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I agree that his death feels so in the fore that it just being that straight would be lame. Like him dying in the final battle is fine but feeling the need to foreshadow it so bluntly would be bizarre.
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He is going to come full circle to the death penalty being unjust.
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Good thing Maki's handy with a sword and fine with waxing fools. Maybe it's just coincidental but given that she hasn't had a role yet, and the fact that both use swords, mean there's some kind of complicated hand-off/merger in the works, like they're counting on Sukuna to be able to co-opt the Executioner's Sword so they can call in Maki to do something about it.
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Tosk posted:I feel like receiving hype like "could he be Gojo tier??" is almost so big a death flag that it might be subverted. He's going to surpass gojo alright He'll be cut into three pieces.
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Jerkface posted:He is going to come full circle to the death penalty being unjust. Binding demons for seeming eternity is always easier than outright killing them so it tracks
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I think the "can kill Sukuna without killing Megumi" will hopefully result in Higuruma expelling Sukuna from Megumi's body even if he dies to do it. Though with how everything in the culling game has gone they're just going to kill Megumi in a classic case of
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JahRoo posted:Assume nanamis sword having his technique is just a bit of hand wavy “cursed objects are the remains of powerful sorcerers” combined with like, him getting soul exploded in proximity to his weapon. I just assumed some cursed weapons are created as a dying wish through a binding vow e.g. Yorozu's gift. It is not hard to imagine that Nanami created his own curse weapon through a binding vow upon his death so that his juniors can make use of his technique after death.
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EmmyOk posted:I think the "can kill Sukuna without killing Megumi" will hopefully result in Higuruma expelling Sukuna from Megumi's body even if he dies to do it. Though with how everything in the culling game has gone they're just going to kill Megumi in a classic case of Megumi is freed, promptly kills himself.
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:Good thing Maki's handy with a sword and fine with waxing fools. Lamebot posted:Maki should womanhandle Higaruma into slashing Sukuna
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Lamebot posted:Maki should womanhandle Higaruma into slashing Sukuna The funny thing is that this is unironically a decent idea. One of the physically powerful characters (namely Maki, but I guess Yuuji could also pull this off) carrying Higuruma and helping him avoid Sukuna's attacks + get him into range.
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