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Rageaholic posted:Alien Covenant was not the worst Alien film. That's Alien3. But Covenant is still bottom of the barrel as far as the Alien series goes. 3 is way better than Covenant.
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Alien 3 is the last Alien movie you need, but you do need it.
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Jan 8, 2024 17:40
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GoldStandardConure posted:mans never hated an alien movie in his life
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Jan 8, 2024 17:45
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There's a ton of mid in the Alien franchise. Covenant being actually good puts it ahead of most.
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Jan 8, 2024 17:47
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Covenant mostly suffers because it's a good Alien movie, but it's a bad sequel to Prometheus. It really slaps audiences in the face in terms of their expectations. It didn't click with me the first time because I felt a bit cheated, but on a second viewing with my expectations reset I really enjoyed it. It's very similar to Alien 3 in that way, so much so that it's hard not to read as Ridley's endorsement of 3's storytelling choice of killing most of the previous film's protagonists off offscreen between films. But even if you can't appreciate its storytelling choices, Resurrection and the AVP films just aren't even in the same league. It's Ridley Scott making a robot Hammer Frankenstein movie.
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Jan 8, 2024 18:49
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I don't like 3 very much. I've tried rewatching it and it's just not good. Fincher is right to disown that movie.
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Jan 8, 2024 18:55
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Colonel Whitey posted:I don't like 3 very much. I've tried rewatching it and it's just not good. Fincher is right to disown that movie. Fincher's made way worse movies, including his most recent one
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Jan 8, 2024 18:56
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People complain about the characters in Prometheus being stupid but in Covenant they're dumb on an entirely different level.
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Jan 8, 2024 18:59
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Fincher's made way worse movies, including his most recent one I'll give you Button but everything else he's made is way better than alien 3
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Jan 8, 2024 19:10
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Covenant is a weird one because all the good things (David and the Xenomorph) are overshadowed by all the bad things (David and the Xenomorph). I have a massive soft spot for Resurrection but there's no escaping the fact that it's an extremely bad movie.
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Jan 8, 2024 19:11
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Alien 4 is basically an alien comic book made into a movie, it reminds me of all those DC alien hardbacks I'd read at the mall. Dumb fun with some great stuff in there.
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Jan 8, 2024 19:19
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Colonel Whitey posted:I'll give you Button but everything else he's made is way better than alien 3 The Killer was lame, Girl With the Dragon Tattoo was awful, and even David Fincher seems to want to pretend Mank never happened
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Jan 8, 2024 19:24
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Girl With the Dragon Tattoo was awful what
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kiimo posted:what
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Jan 8, 2024 19:27
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i said what i said. but i mean he was using it to warm up his airport fiction muscles before he did Gone Girl, which was good, so hey.
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Jan 8, 2024 19:27
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Those are all better than Alien 3
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Colonel Whitey posted:Those are all better than Alien 3 i'll grant Gone Girl, maybe
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Jan 8, 2024 19:41
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Which Alien3 are you talking about
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Jan 8, 2024 19:42
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MikeJF posted:Which Alien3 are you talking about i generally agree with the consensus that the Assembly Cut is better but honestly the Theatrical Cut is very good too (and does a couple of things better than the Assembly Cut does)
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Jan 8, 2024 19:43
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I enjoyed Dragon Tattoo quite a lot when I rewatched it recently. There are points when it is labouring through exposition when it’s clear it’s based off a big airport novel (which I haven’t read). However tonally it does make me a bit uncomfortable. One half of the movie is handsome Daniel Craig and Rooney Mara having sex and solving a preposterous mystery, and if it’s dark it’s like, goofy dark. And then some really quite grim and full on stuff happens in the movie as well. Neither aspect is bad necessarily, but they don’t gel; it feels like maybe Fincher can’t tell the difference between them. Gone Girl I never really got. the Killer is decent for what it is. Alien3 is bad. Sorry Alien3, but it can’t be denied.
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It feels weird to say this about something that was only barely 15 years ago, but the whole Girl With the Dragon Tattoo phenomenon feels very of its time.
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bows1 posted:Its interesting that I see a ton of people over the moon for Oz Perkins and I've never heard of him... looked him up and hes written 2 things that I've never heard of. Are they worth watching? People seem to love this guy. Gretel & Hansel is dope
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bows1 posted:Its interesting that I see a ton of people over the moon for Oz Perkins and I've never heard of him... looked him up and hes written 2 things that I've never heard of. Are they worth watching? People seem to love this guy. The Blackcoat’s Daughter and Gretel and Hansel are both well worth your time, but I was not a fan of I Am The Pretty Thing That Lives In The House.
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Rageaholic posted:Alien Covenant was not the worst Alien film. 
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I can't say a stop motion office comedy by Mike Judge, Zach Woods, and Brandon Gardner was ever on my radar, but here we are. I had the opportunity to work on it and it was really cool how excited they were to work in stop mo. They also brought in a food truck that served ice cream and fresh warm churros. 10/10 would do season two if it happens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci_PnX7kegM
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ant mouth posted:I can't say a stop motion office comedy by Mike Judge, Zach Woods, and Brandon Gardner was ever on my radar, but here we are. I had the opportunity to work on it and it was really cool how excited they were to work in stop mo. They also brought in a food truck that served ice cream and fresh warm churros. 10/10 would do season two if it happens. This makes me miss Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
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is that the Alien dog
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Rageaholic posted:Alien Covenant was not the worst Alien film. That's Alien3. But Covenant is still bottom of the barrel as far as the Alien series goes. It's Resurrection, you plum. It goes 1 or 2, both are acceptable: Alien and Aliens 3. Alien 3, especially the Workprint edition 4. Covenant 5. Prometheus 6. Alien Resurrection But 4th place onwards are utter poo poo.
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Alien 3 is honestly just pretty boring. Opening few minutes are solid, but then you spend an hour with Ripley trying to determine if there is an alien when we already know there is one. So best you get is her interacting with prisoners with outside of Dance is pretty dull too. And then it’s all brown hallways. Covenant at least gets alien stuff going right away and then gives you two robot bros to hang with.
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Yeah, Prometheus is wildly more interesting to me than Alien 3. I like Covenant more than 3, but I can understand liking 3 more than it, because Covenant gets as much wrong as it gets right, and fucks up a lot of the promise that Prometheus set up. But Prometheus is a really solid movie, to me.edogawa rando posted:It's Resurrection, you plum. Other than what I said above about Prometheus (I'd put it in the #3 spot), I agree with this. People saying Covenant is the worst in the series apparently forget about Resurrection and the AvP movies. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jan 8, 2024 |
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edogawa rando posted:It's Resurrection, you plum. Um excuse me you forgot Outland and Planet of Vampires.
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1. Alien 2. Prometheus 3. Alien$ 4. Covenant Then the rest
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The BLOODIER GORIER version of the chestbuster sequence in Covenant is a lot of fun in spite of probably being a fairly cynical exercise with Ridley throwing up his hands and going, fine, this is what the fanboys want, I don't give a poo poo.
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That tension is kinda what I love about it, he tried to make a movie for THE FANS but just couldn't help pissing everyone off anyway Ridley's the best and he's the only one I care to see make Alien content. Noah Hawley can gently caress off.
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Colonel Whitey posted:1. Alien This is basically where I'm at. Aliens is in some respects the epitome of its type of film, but it's one I'm just a little colder on than Ridley Scott on his bullshit. Covenant is certainly the weakest of those four but its also a big budget remake of loving Forbidden Planet where Robby and Robot and Morbius are twinsies and in love so like hell if I ain't giving it props.
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1. Alien-Aliens 2. Prometheus-covenant 3. Alien 3 4. Alien resurrection
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I want to love everything about Prometheus but I can't get past the dumb rear end writing of the characters. I just can't. I keep watching it and every time it's dumber. The overall concept, production design, etc is enjoyable but the characters loving suck.
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BonoMan posted:I want to love everything about Prometheus but I can't get past the dumb rear end writing of the characters. I just can't. I keep watching it and every time it's dumber. The overall concept, production design, etc is enjoyable but the characters loving suck. David rules so I don’t know what your problem is Also the characters are very well written and accurate to humans
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Those characters are the exact type of fuckups you would expect a trillionaire to assemble to find and usurp God
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Eww no David.
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