2024 NCAA Offseason thread: Saban Retires, Coaching Carousel on Fire

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I. M. Gei: Jun 26, 2005; CHIEFS

BITCH

I'm a little amazed "Sark Tank" hasn't gotten any traction after this season. Maybe next year if we go undefeated.

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 09:50

Qwijib0: Apr 10, 2007; Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?; Fun Shoe

Welp, RIP a decent Arizona football program

# ? Jan 15, 2024 00:47

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

There's a way better chance of Fisch going to the NFL than UF

# ? Jan 15, 2024 00:54

Edna Mode: Sep 24, 2005; Bullshit, that's last year's Fall collection!

All UW coaches will only be here two years from now on, except for our basketball coach who will be mediocre forever but we will never be able to fire.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 00:58

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Edna Mode posted:

All UW coaches will only be here two years from now on, except for our basketball coach who will be mediocre forever but we will never be able to fire.

Like honestly in Basketball given the type of players Washington usually recruits (oafs and good PGs) they're built to do well in the Big 10.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 01:33

Canned Sunshine: Nov 20, 2005; CAUTION: POST QUALITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION

Rick posted:

This is a really lovely way to phrase this. It's "not a priority" because the entire school is broke. Sorry paying the football coach was something they left to the end of the month when students may not be able to take classes and literally hundreds of people are going to lose their jobs. loving rear end in a top hat.

Yeah, I feel for you, because I know a few people on UA's IT staff who are making GBS threads breaks right now about whether they'll still have a job soon... It sucks.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 01:59

LeeMajors: Jan 20, 2005; I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!

LeeMajors posted:

Washington has had a pretty decent hit rate on head coaches and a good enough history to recruit well on the west coast. I think the Big Ten profile is higher too.

Obviously this a huge setback and I�m gutted for y�all but it wouldn�t surprise me if you managed to hire a pretty great replacement.

Just quoting because it appears they did just fine again.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 02:00

LeeMajors: Jan 20, 2005; I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!

Relentlessboredomm posted:

Sidenote, Napier is absolutely getting fired next year, the UF schedule is brutal:

I agree with whoever it was that said Fisch is more likely NFL bound than UF. I don�t really think UF is a better job than UW anymore anyway.

And yeah that schedule is loving murder and I see almost no way he succeeds unless we get some big time sleeper development over the next few months.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 02:04

A Sneaker Broker: Feb 14, 2020; Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot

Whoever takes the Arizona job will be in hell for a while�almost a quarter of a billion dollars in debt. NIL is at 0. Recruits leaving. Players leaving. Sheesh.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 02:15

pillsburysoldier: Feb 11, 2008; Yo, peep that shit

https://twitter.com/JustinESports/status/1746682993836736572
Lol

# ? Jan 15, 2024 02:45

Declan MacManus: Sep 1, 2011; damn i'm really in this bitch

pillsburysoldier posted:

https://twitter.com/JustinESports/status/1746682993836736572
Lol

well, do you think he's leaving after that

# ? Jan 15, 2024 03:01

Canned Sunshine: Nov 20, 2005; CAUTION: POST QUALITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION

A Sneaker Broker posted:

Whoever takes the Arizona job will be in hell for a while�almost a quarter of a billion dollars in debt. NIL is at 0. Recruits leaving. Players leaving. Sheesh.

Holy poo poo.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 03:06

R.D. Mangles: Jan 10, 2004

arizona should hire Herm.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 03:08

A Buffer Gay Dude: Oct 25, 2020

Truther Vandross posted:

I�d always heard that was his dream job so who knows

Maybe he shouldn�t have worked for the snake man. Dems da breaks.

Honestly with the bad recruiting haul this year and the way DeBoer left, Grubb (rightfully) never had a shot with the big donors.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 03:15

THIS_IS_FINE: May 21, 2001; Slippery Tilde

pillsburysoldier posted:

https://twitter.com/JustinESports/status/1746682993836736572
Lol

I mean this is better than an 8 minute rambling speech where the players don't know what the gently caress your plan is until the end of it?

# ? Jan 15, 2024 03:18

DC Murderverse: Nov 10, 2016; "Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

A Sneaker Broker posted:

Whoever takes the Arizona job will be in hell for a while�almost a quarter of a billion dollars in debt. NIL is at 0. Recruits leaving. Players leaving. Sheesh.

How did this happen? I�ve heard about issues in West Virginia but I haven�t heard anything about Arizona dealing with similar poo poo

# ? Jan 15, 2024 03:26

pillsburysoldier: Feb 11, 2008; Yo, peep that shit

DC Murderverse posted:

How did this happen? I�ve heard about issues in West Virginia but I haven�t heard anything about Arizona dealing with similar poo poo

Think it was an accountant loving up the school budget by something like half a billion dollars

# ? Jan 15, 2024 03:28

A Sneaker Broker: Feb 14, 2020; Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot

pillsburysoldier posted:

Think it was an accountant loving up the school budget by something like half a billion dollars

Long story short, as Pillsburysoldier said, an accountant who was in charge of overseeing UofA's Athletic Department budget overstepped and realized their spending well beyond anything they had actually accounted for. They are $240mil under and multiple sports programs there will be ripped to shreds because of it.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 03:36

Ninja Bob: Nov 20, 2002; Bleak Gremlin

One loving good year and we lose the coach and (presumably) all the good players. Glad I didn't buy season tickets. I get it, it's a business, but that stings. I feel bad for all the players.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 03:39

Spacemonkey57: Dec 1, 2004

$240 million seems well beyond the bounds of simple incompetence. There has to be theft going on there right?

# ? Jan 15, 2024 04:03

A Sneaker Broker: Feb 14, 2020; Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot

Spacemonkey57 posted:

$240 million seems well beyond the bounds of simple incompetence. There has to be theft going on there right?

We won't know the full details till at least this summer. It may get swept under the rug regardless.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 04:08

Komet: Apr 4, 2003

So that $240M shortfall is just in the athletic department? I don't understand how that can happen.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 04:20

Dance McPants: Mar 11, 2006

so much good food here and they show Eminem's joke restaurant.

e: wrong thread

# ? Jan 15, 2024 04:36

Qwijib0: Apr 10, 2007; Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?; Fun Shoe

Canned Sunshine posted:

Yeah, I feel for you, because I know a few people on UA's IT staff who are making GBS threads breaks right now about whether they'll still have a job soon... It sucks.

ASITS is a hell of a thing

# ? Jan 15, 2024 04:53

Qwijib0: Apr 10, 2007; Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?; Fun Shoe

The Arizona board of regents requires universities to keep 180 days of cash on hand, and as of December, the UA was short of that, with only ~90 days of cash on hand, a shortfall of 240M

About 90 of that was a loan to the athletics dept for the COVID years, a bunch was because of the insane purchase of the for profit online university that became UA Online, and the rest is distributed amongst other departments who have not realized projected philanthropic gifts.

This has been a convenient excuse to centralize IT, HR, and Finance, rather than it being per dept. If one were to put on the conspiracy goggles, this looks like a way to managerially restrict all the departments to make sure they know they answer to the Regents.

Anyway, the athletics dept is under no real risk, of it gets tough they'll ask Paul and Alice Baker to give another multimillion dollar gift

Qwijib0 fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Jan 15, 2024

# ? Jan 15, 2024 05:01

General Dog: Apr 26, 2008; Everybody's working for the weekend

A Sneaker Broker posted:

Whoever takes the Arizona job will be in hell for a while�almost a quarter of a billion dollars in debt. NIL is at 0. Recruits leaving. Players leaving. Sheesh.

I mean, things were grim when Fisch came in and that hiring was seen as kind of a joke at the time and it worked out okay. Maybe they�ll stroked gold twice. Or maybe they�ll just hire Jerry Kill.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 05:03

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Ninja Bob posted:

One loving good year and we lose the coach and (presumably) all the good players. Glad I didn't buy season tickets. I get it, it's a business, but that stings. I feel bad for all the players.

I've been maintaining a season ticket for the last three years even though I functionally cannot attend games in a covid world. I've kind of made the decision that even if I can somehow find gainful employment by the time the payment is due is to just finally let it go since neither the world or my health is going to magically change any time soon but I feel pretty bad about the timing of hopping off.

Qwijib0 posted:

The Arizona board of regents requires universities to keep 180 days of cash on hand, and as of December, the UA was short of that, with only ~90 days of cash on hand, a shortfall of 240M

About 90 of that was a loan to the athletics dept for the COVID years, a bunch was because of the insane purchase of the for profit online university that became UA Online, and the rest is distributed amongst other departments who have not realized projected philanthropic gifts.

This has been a convenient excuse to centralize IT, HR, and Finance, rather than it being per dept. If one were to put on the conspiracy goggles, this looks like a way to managerially restrict all the departments to make sure they know they answer to the Regents.

Anyway, the athletics dept is under no real risk, of it gets tough they'll ask Paul and Alice Baker to give another multimillion dollar gift

On the one hand the way that the UA handles(d?) IT was a bureaucratic nightmare. On the other hand though it mostly worked and I have a feeling when they centralize it, it's going to be a nightmare that actually causes problems other than being annoying. Like yeah there's theoretical overlap but like there are very few one-size-fits-all solutions to the needs of the various departments.

Also that online university thing was really a hell of a scam. When they announced it they said "oh it's a one dollar deal." I guess no one bothered to look at the rest of the cost.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 05:35

Sash!: Mar 16, 2001

I forgot about the Ashford University thing. One of my friends got his "Masters" from there. His job paid for 100 percent of it, otherwise he would have never bothered. Turns out he was in the first tranche that got University of Arizona degrees. He called it the most prestigious diploma mill around.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 06:00

DC Murderverse: Nov 10, 2016; "Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Sash! posted:

He called it the most prestigious diploma mill around.

Oh I thought that was �Purdue University Global�

# ? Jan 15, 2024 06:23

GD_American: Jul 21, 2004; LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

OK, their wiki page is a loving adventure

quote:

Origin as TeleUniversity 1999�2001

University of Arizona Global Campus claims a history dating back to 1918. The school, however, has stronger roots with TeleUniversity, an online school created by entrepreneur Michael K. Clifford in 1999.

Charter Learning 2001�2003

In 2001, the company changed leadership with co-founders Wayne Clugston, Scott Turner, and David Vande Pol. TeleUniversity was renamed Charter Learning with a focus on helping working adults complete their bachelor's degree while attending their community college. Charter Learning provided American Council on Education credit-recommended upper division curriculum in Organizational Management, the Maricopa Community College system provided the lower division coursework and instruction, and Charter Oak State College granted the degree. In 2003, Warburg Pincus, a private equity firm, invested in Charter Learning and the name changed to Bridgepoint Education. In 2005, Bridgepoint Education purchased the small Franciscan University of the Prairies campus in Clinton, Iowa, retained the school's valuable accreditation, and renamed it Ashford University. Most of Ashford University's students, however, were enrolled to learn exclusively online and the campus closed in May 2016.

Catholic colleges: 1918�2005

Seeing a need for higher education in Clinton County, Iowa, and the surrounding area, the Sisters of Saint Francis founded Mount St. Clare College in 1918. This liberal arts institution was also an approved teacher education college from 1932 to 1954. In 1942, 60% of the rural teachers in Clinton County and 62% of the teachers in the city of Clinton school system had received all their training from Mount St. Clare College. In 1950, the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools first accredited Mount St. Clare College. The college acquired a convent building, new library, new gymnasium, the Science Building, and Durham Residence Hall and became coeducational in 1967.[citation needed] The 24-acre (9.7 ha) campus was about a half mile from the Mississippi River and about a mile north of U.S. Route 30. The most notable building on campus was St. Clare Hall, which served as the Mount St. Clare Convent, Novitiate, Academy, and College. Durham and Regis Halls provided residence to on campus students.[citation needed] For the 1979�1980 school year, the college received approval for its first four-year degree, a bachelor's program in business administration. The same year, Mount St. Clare Academy merged with St. Mary's High School in Clinton, forming Mater Dei High School (now known as Prince of Peace Preparatory). With the space freed by the academy's merger, the school began to offer more four-year programs. In 1997, the sisters moved off campus into their new mother house, The Canticle. In 1998, the Durgin Educational Center was opened, which included new athletic facilities, including Kehl arena.[citation needed] In 2003, Mount St. Clare College changed its name to The Franciscan University. The university also offered its first master's degree online. In September 2004, the school modified its name to The Franciscan University of the Prairies in order to avoid confusion with similarly named schools.

Ashford University: 2005�2020
For-profit enrollment boom (2005�2012)

Charter Learning acquired the financially failing Catholic college to gain regional accreditation and access to federal funds. After the sale, the institution's name was changed to Ashford University. In 2010, Ashford University was highlighted in College, Inc., a PBS Frontline expos� about for-profit colleges. In June 2012, WASC denied initial accreditation to Ashford University. Following WASC's denial of accreditation for being, according to Insider Higher Ed, "lacking in several areas, including low numbers of full-time faculty, high student dropout rates and questions about academic rigor," WASC demanded additional information from Ashford prior to an October site visit. Its second application was accepted in 2013. In approving accreditation, the WASC Commission Action Letter stated "The Commission found that the University has responded to Commission concerns and judges that it is now in substantial compliance with Commission standards." The WASC visiting team noted in its final report that "the team found an institution that has been fundamentally transformed and whose culture has been changed in significant ways, including a shift from a market driven approach to an institution committed to student retention and success". At its meeting June 26�28, 2019, the WASC Senior College and University Commission acted to reaffirm Ashford's accreditation through Spring 2025.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 06:55

whos that broooown: Dec 10, 2009; 2024 Comeback Poster of the Year

Komet posted:

So that $240M shortfall is just in the athletic department? I don't understand how that can happen.

It's like ignoring child rape, but with money

# ? Jan 15, 2024 07:30

A Sneaker Broker: Feb 14, 2020; Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot

The portal is about to go A-Wall.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 07:46

JesustheDarkLord: May 22, 2006; #VolsDeep; Lipstick Apathy

whos that broooown posted:

It's like ignoring child rape, but with money

Some money's missing, but it's Friday afternoon and you don't want to ruin anyone's weekend

# ? Jan 15, 2024 13:33

KKKLIP ART: Sep 3, 2004

A Sneaker Broker posted:

Saban is causing the most enormous domino effect. He still reigns supreme over CFB even after he retired.

I still think that a football player fake pissing in the endzone had a bigger domino effect but this is pretty big.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 13:59

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

https://x.com/thewolverineon3/status/1746920424108130509?s=46&t=GxZoSKgPzb_-zyUnvLFKvg

# ? Jan 15, 2024 16:58

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

drat, that's a really big surprise. His plan was to be featured last year (until Blake came back), then turn pro. JJ heading out likely means they'll really need him for way more weird poo poo than this year.

Edit for below: Happy Harbruary! Going to be a long few weeks!

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jan 15, 2024

# ? Jan 15, 2024 18:19

pillsburysoldier: Feb 11, 2008; Yo, peep that shit

https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1746890909600407674

# ? Jan 15, 2024 18:22

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

pillsburysoldier posted:

https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1746890909600407674

lordy

# ? Jan 15, 2024 19:08

General Dog: Apr 26, 2008; Everybody's working for the weekend

The fact that he�s interviewing is barely even news.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 19:11

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 09:50

PostNouveau: Sep 3, 2011; VY till I die; Grimey Drawer

pillsburysoldier posted:

https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1746890909600407674

It's weird that he doesn't know that this would be a step down for him.

# ? Jan 15, 2024 19:12

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