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So lotta goop. Obviously down
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CelticPredator posted:Lighting and skill. Also Soderbergh probably cleans the finger grease off his camera lens
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 06:27 |
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:Winnie the Pooh and the Grinch already have spooky sides to them that are far smarter than these new movies. The idea of something unknown coming into your home with the goal of taking whatever it is that makes you happy is scary! There's a helplessness to it all and Pooh's nightmare sequence in The Blustery Day is still freaky! It's all stuff that plays on childhood fears and actually is creepy to children. I more than understand the allure of taking some of the old kid's stuff and putting a dark spin on it. I sat through so much Barney and Teletubbies when my son was little, my head started spinning together some dark ideas. So far the problem I'm seeing with the horror adaptations of things is they're not really rolling the ideas around in the head to see the possibilities to run with. Going basic slasher route's very unimaginative. The idea I had with Barney centered on the kids being left to their own with lack of baby sitter..etc.. and they imagined Barney up as some variant of tulpa to not be alone with the plush as a focus. Fast forward to the future and the kids are grown. They meet up again for some reason, maybe the old school's getting demolished and they're getting nostalgic for the good days with Barney compared to how life turned out. It's enough for Barney and the others to manifest again. They're happy to see their human friends again, but knowing that they've had sadness in their lives, Barney and the others decide to make their human friends happy again by going after those who made them sad. An alternative route could be Barney's a manifestation of the subconscious and whispering things to the kids but that's been so done to death already it'd put people asleep in the seats.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 06:29 |
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Zwabu posted:So what is the difference when some indies make a found footage movie using a cell phone vs. when Soderbergh shoots a film like Unsane or Side Effects on an iPhone? Why does the Soderbergh film look pretty drat good and the FF look like garbage most of the time? Lighting and sound. Any rear end in a top hat with a camera can just point a camera at some actors and make a movie, but it's immediately obvious that they don't know what they're doing if it's poorly lit or it's relying entirely on the piece of poo poo microphone built into the camera they're using.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 08:04 |
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8one6 posted:Lighting and sound. Any rear end in a top hat with a camera can just point a camera at some actors and make a movie, but it's immediately obvious that they don't know what they're doing if it's poorly lit or it's relying entirely on the piece of poo poo microphone built into the camera they're using. Granted that my camera experience was very much pre-smartphone, wouldn't it be more obvious when you're filming with a smartphone if something's not going to look right? A few times with my attempts we were filming outdoors and if a really thick cloud went over that made everything pretty dark for us, we'd call the scene for cloud and wait for it to pass until things looked close enough pre-cloud.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 12:07 |
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it might not look wrong but it won’t look special or interesting And yeah the idea for FF is to have a sense of realism but it’s also possible to go way too far and literally just make an hour of your iPhone cam videos which no one wants to see lol
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M_Sinistrari posted:I more than understand the allure of taking some of the old kid's stuff and putting a dark spin on it. I sat through so much Barney and Teletubbies when my son was little, my head started spinning together some dark ideas. So far the problem I'm seeing with the horror adaptations of things is they're not really rolling the ideas around in the head to see the possibilities to run with. Going basic slasher route's very unimaginative. The idea I had with Barney centered on the kids being left to their own with lack of baby sitter..etc.. and they imagined Barney up as some variant of tulpa to not be alone with the plush as a focus. Fast forward to the future and the kids are grown. They meet up again for some reason, maybe the old school's getting demolished and they're getting nostalgic for the good days with Barney compared to how life turned out. It's enough for Barney and the others to manifest again. They're happy to see their human friends again, but knowing that they've had sadness in their lives, Barney and the others decide to make their human friends happy again by going after those who made them sad. This is kind of sort of like that movie with adult christopher robin, but with less murder. I think. I never actually saw it.
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Also, Unsane was Soderbergh’s 30th directorial feature. I think that he has the experience and toolset to adapt to filming in an unusual medium
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 14:43 |
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Soderbergh is and pro and Unsane looked pretty cool given the stylistic limitations. Shame he found the screenwriters in the traumatic brain injury ward.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 14:46 |
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Not just lighting, but also framing. A lot of people don't have the eye beyond obvious landmarks and such.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 15:50 |
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My argument is a good FF shouldn’t look framed unless it’s supposed to be made by a filmmaker or something But it shouldn’t be unwatchable
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 16:08 |
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At this point I've watched just about all of the FF/POV horror Amazon prime has to offer and it's gotten to the point where I can tell within five minutes if the filmmaker is making a FF movie because it's cheap and easy (it's not actually easy) or if it's actually going to be enjoyable to watch. Framing, sound, having at least thought about the answer to the "why are you still filming" question, etc. A half decent filmmaker will have put some thought into it all beyond "My uncle owns a creepy shack in the woods".
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 17:05 |
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If all goes okay I should make my ff flick next month but my conceit’s are the film’s opening shot is the first time we see the creature. The inciting incident When people use their phones or cameras they typically don’t have 30 minutes of nonsense character development as they go on a trip. I hate that And the reason why the main character keeps filming so because he’s bored during break and he’s not doing so well in his journalism or filmmaking class so why not make a cool documentary out of this situation lol
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 18:00 |
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‘Good’ sound is overrated. You just need interesting sound. The recent not-actually-FF movie Redgate is terrible by nearly every conventional metric, but it’s very compelling - in part because there’s limited sound effects, and nearly all the dialogue is dubbed.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 18:01 |
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CelticPredator posted:If all goes okay I should make my ff flick next month but my conceit’s are the film’s opening shot is the first time we see the creature. The inciting incident This is a similar structure to the Senritsu Kakai File films where the first thing we see is an amateur recording of something spooky and the rest of the film is a documentary investigating that. Ending with some very creepy image but many questions answered.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 18:47 |
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Did anyone ever watch that movie shot in Disneyland guerilla style? Was it worth a poo poo?
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 18:48 |
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Did anyone ever watch that movie shot in Disneyland guerilla style? Was it worth a poo poo? It's one of the worst movies my partner has ever watched, and we have very low standards. Extremely not worth it and has nothing interesting to say for what the subject is.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 18:51 |
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Did anyone ever watch that movie shot in Disneyland guerilla style? Was it worth a poo poo? It's a movie about a guy who goes crazy because he can't jerk off while he's on vacation with his family. Not really worth your time. Excellent name/post combo though.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 19:52 |
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Did anyone ever watch that movie shot in Disneyland guerilla style? Was it worth a poo poo? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38BiNsFFzcs
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 20:14 |
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CelticPredator posted:My argument is a good FF shouldn’t look framed unless it’s supposed to be made by a filmmaker or something I think FF would be the hardest to do right, but it still needs to be done really well, otherwise you've got shots of uninteresting stuff. When cameras are put down, when spooky stuff is being shown you don't just want it done at head level all the time. When running through a house you don't want it swinging left and right with everything blurred, you want it to focus on mirrors as you go past, etc. You still need to know when to flip the shots in post etc, those rules still apply in FF.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 20:24 |
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Skrillmub posted:It's a movie about a guy who goes crazy because he can't jerk off while he's on vacation with his family. He also tries to sleep with some (implied?) underage girls and he is portrayed as the victim. It's also bad in a normal sense and a fair amount was shot on green screen anyway.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 20:27 |
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Shrecknet posted:escape from tomorrow and it's real dumb and bad Tangent, but I can't really put my finger on why I like her so much but she's a hilarious YouTuber. Her video where she's Michael Keaton talking to Peter Parker when he's not actually Spider-Man is such a simple concept but her deadpan delivery just cracks me up.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 21:13 |
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Did anyone ever watch that movie shot in Disneyland guerilla style? Was it worth a poo poo? It is not good, no. How it was made is the most and only interesting thing about it. Unless you think “Disney princesses are really call girls” is trenchant commentary.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 21:15 |
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Baron von Eevl posted:He also tries to sleep with some (implied?) underage girls and he is portrayed as the victim. It's also bad in a normal sense and a fair amount was shot on green screen anyway. Oh yeah, the whole tone of the movie is that this is a serious message about the hardships of men. It's gross.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 21:19 |
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dorium posted:it holds up, the movie rocks. (Bio-Zombie) did indeed hold up, what an awesome and underrated zombie-comedy. Figured the comedy side of things was going to be what aged the most for me, but there are some pretty great gags. The video-game style character intros and the bootleg cam opening credits are so great Plenty of cool and creative kills as well. Super low-budget (interview extra on the disc with the director says it was made for $38-51k, currency converted) but clearly they were passionate and having tons of fun making it. It's been a long time but I'm going to go back to recommending it all the time.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 22:11 |
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The new Fake Documentary Q is great but has anyone been watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2rehpv-L2E BRITISH CRYPTIDS?WHY BONER NOW posted:Did anyone ever watch that movie shot in Disneyland guerilla style? Was it worth a poo poo? It was stinky, almost takes a rockabilly-ish tone in the blending of sex and Disney adults.
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 22:40 |
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It’s hard to explain but I think a good FF needs to be framed but also not framed. Framed the same way you would frame something if you saw something cool, pulled out your phone and shot it. But it’s tricky. My favorite FF movies are in no order Cloverfield Behind the Mask Incident at Lake County The Bay Hail Mary but Area 51 tbh Behind the mask may be a bit too doc but whatever. I think all do a decent job at showing you enough while also feeling authentic
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 23:16 |
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https://x.com/filmupdates/status/1748779739454566636?s=46 Very excited for this one
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 23:20 |
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Please be a real movie and not some tone poem mood piece
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 23:21 |
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I’ll take either!
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# ? Jan 20, 2024 23:27 |
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Did anyone ever watch that movie shot in Disneyland guerrilla style? Was it worth a poo poo? Shrecknet posted:escape from tomorrow and it's real dumb and bad Whew. For a moment I thought y’all were referring to The Florida Project. The final shot(s) we’re done with a guerrilla iPhone recording inside Disney World. That is real emotional and good.
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 00:27 |
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CelticPredator posted:Please be a real movie and not some tone poem mood piece
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 00:51 |
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I just rewatched Escape From Tomorrow for the first time in like a decade because I had to see for myself if it held up. It really doesn't. At all. gently caress that movie, for real.
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 02:00 |
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It's a Frankenstein so it's close enough to horror: Poor Things finally opened at my local theaters and that owned, loved everything about it. My favorite Lanthimos film.
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 02:01 |
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Last time Sodebergh did a horror movie (UNSANE), I loved it, so I can't wait.CelticPredator posted:Hail Mary but Area 51 tbh I kinda feel you on this, I like what they were going for when they found the ship.
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 02:03 |
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Yeah it hits a lot of UFO weirdness for me that clicks. It could and should’ve been better and the ending is dull. But I keep watching it every once in a while and am riveted the whole time
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 02:21 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Last time Sodebergh did a horror movie (UNSANE), I loved it, so I can't wait. Agreed. I also really liked Unsane. It's not an all time classic but it's very good IMO. I like Soderbergh and the fact that he is able and willing to experiment around with different types of films and formats, from comedies to heist films to sweeping epic stories with social commentary like Contagion and including horror thriller type films like Unsane, including shooting on cellphones etc. The scene in Unsane where the protagonist realizes she is being involuntarily committed is so chilling and well done, it's my single favorite part of that film.
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 02:22 |
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CelticPredator posted:Yeah it hits a lot of UFO weirdness for me that clicks. It could and should’ve been better and the ending is dull. But I keep watching it every once in a while and am riveted the whole time A lot of lesser FF movies are just not paced well, that's always the common denominator. Especially since they're all like 80 minutes long, there's not gonna be a lot of slack.
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 02:29 |
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:It's a Frankenstein so it's close enough to horror: Poor Things finally opened at my local theaters and that owned, loved everything about it. My favorite Lanthimos film. I'm also accepting that it's extremely tangential to horror to agree, Poor Things loving rules and if it was any year except the year Lily Gladstone should get Best Actress for Flower Moon, I'd be saying Emma Stone deserves Best Actress for Poor Things.
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# ? Jan 21, 2024 02:36 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 19:54 |
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Found footage's cinematography style sucks. It's a gimmick from Blair Witch Project that never went away. No matter how creative you get with the story the product always gets reduced by shaky cam, predictable framing, and 'handheld' camera lighting. It's why the mockumentary style of FF seems to be the only one that kind of works. Being able to escape from the crappy camera footage into an actually well shot scene of someone being interviewed alleviates the audience from having to endure a two hour shaky cam fiesta.
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