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DoLittle
Jul 26, 2006
I've made decent progress with my airfoil, but I still have one problem.

How do I prevent Bambu Studio slowing down to a crawl for the top layers? At the moment the top layer of the mount slows down to 20 mm/s. This leads to a too long layer time, too much cooling and poor layer adhesion for that specific layer. I can't seem to spot the setting that would affect this.



Edit. Oh FFS, it seems that somehow I had ironing on at the "Object" level.

DoLittle fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jan 17, 2024

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tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


I was gunna say.. sounds like ironing

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!
The filament can also have settings for minimum layer time for cooling.


In other news: finally used my PEX sheet and daaaaamn poo poo is shiny.

Scarodactyl
Oct 22, 2015


queeb posted:

store update: everywhere i read said said January was supposed to be quiet. i was hoping for some quiet to work on a website and all that. I'm pulling December numbers still, Like averaging $521/day currently on etsy for january.

its bonkers
For me (different ecommerce) it tends to slow down more mid febish.

DoLittle
Jul 26, 2006
I think this is now good enough to be used. Next up would be the 6 other sections of the wing. This section is 250 mm tall.

The big holes will get aluminium tubes. The small hole a steel wire that pulls the whole thing together and glue between the section. Thread inserts for the mount and the end plates. A flat-pack wing you could say.







The process has been to put blankets on the printer. Pre-heat by setting the bed to 110 °C for an hour or two. 280 °C nozzle, 100 °C bed, 60 °C chamber and keep layer times low to get good layer adhesion. Layer adhesion seems more important than e.g. number of wall layers for strenght. After the print is finished I set the bed temperature to 100 °C and leave the print on the plate for 4 h or so to let it cool slowly.



Moving to larger airfoils, the flow rate may be more limiting to the print size than the bed dimension because of the need to keep the layer times low. There might be a case for the expensive E3D high flow nozzle to be used.

DoLittle fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Jan 18, 2024

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
I have had really good results with the kind of reinforcement you're using there. Especially adding external compression to back up the layer adhesion

Snackmar
Feb 23, 2005

I'M PROGRAMMED TO LOVE THIS CHOCOLATY CAKE... MY CIRCUITS LIGHT UP FOR THAT FUDGY ICING.
Curious to hear from others' experience if they've swapped in a 0.2 mm nozzle on their Bambu P1S..

I figured it'd be fun to try out the CMYK lithophanes, so I bought a 0.2 mm hot end to get the suggested level of detail.

What I didn't expect was that with the fans running, the extruded filament is so thin that it flutters wildly during the colour swap purge and catches on the edge, piling up around the nozzle instead of heading out the poop chute:



Incredibly, the nozzle wipe did take care of it on all but one change where a blob made it back onto the print bed along with a small string of detritus:



It gives me terrifying flashbacks to the MakerBot Cupcake days and waking up to a solid mountain of plastic engulfing the entire hot end, but to its credit, everything did work out fine in the end:



I just.. this can't possibly be the normal, expected behaviour with a 0.2 mm nozzle, right?

Snackmar fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jan 19, 2024

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!
I just watched 18 minutes of nozzle porn https://youtu.be/BU8winnzHkc

Radioactive Toy
Sep 14, 2005

Nothing has ever happened here, nothing.

Snackmar posted:

Curious to hear from others' experience if they've swapped in a 0.2 mm nozzle on their Bambu P1S..

I figured it'd be fun to try out the CMYK lithophanes, so I bought a 0.2 mm hot end to get the suggested level of detail.

What I didn't expect was that with the fans running, the extruded filament is so thin that it flutters wildly during the colour swap purge and catches on the edge, piling up around the nozzle instead of heading out the poop chute:



Incredibly, the nozzle wipe did take care of it on all but one change where a blob made it back onto the print bed along with a small string of detritus:



It gives me terrifying flashbacks to the MakerBot Cupcake days and waking up to a solid mountain of plastic engulfing the entire hot end, but to its credit, everything did work out fine in the end:



I just.. this can't possibly be the normal, expected behaviour with a 0.2 mm nozzle, right?

I also recently got a 0.2mm nozzle and have the same issue. I did some light internet searching and didn't see other people complaining about it so I figured it was isolated. Hasn't ruined any of my .2 prints so far but definitely feels like it could.

I did print this purge chute extension which doesn't solve the main issue but does seem to lessen the chance that unwanted material makes it onto the plate.

Radioactive Toy fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jan 19, 2024

hark
May 10, 2023

I'm sleep
Am I correct in thinking that I have to replace the whole hotend if I wanna change nozzles on the p1s?

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.
It's all one piece, yes. You can get them bare or with fan/thermistor/heater combo units iirc.

gvibes
Jan 18, 2010

Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)
I was forced to use the external spool/manual feeding on the P1S for the first time (for a TPU print), and man, I did not appreciate quite how easy the AMS makes things.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

gvibes posted:

I was forced to use the external spool/manual feeding on the P1S for the first time (for a TPU print), and man, I did not appreciate quite how easy the AMS makes things.
Same. The AMS is just so easy.

Acid Reflux
Oct 18, 2004

I am SO spoiled by my AMSssesseesss. I have a P1P with two hooked up to it, and another P1P and a P1S each with one of their own. Actually currently printing something that's going to burn off two partial rolls and finish off with a third fresh one. It's the friggin' Easy Button of Printing.

Bodanarko
May 29, 2009
Bin/table/liquidation store went crazy today with filament. Took home over 16kg of filament at $12/item. 1 box of 8 sunlu PLA 230g rolls in a variety of colors, 2 spools of sunlu PLA, 1 spool Anycubic PLA, 2 spools of overture PLA, 2 spools of Bambu basic PLA refills (looks like they cut the zip ties off and put them back in the box so those will be respooled), 1 spool poly maker PLA, 2 spools elegoo PLA, 1 spool of mystery PETG, 3 spools of ender PLA.

Mostly black and white which is fine as well as some nice blue and reds and a transparent.

Pretty decent deal at about 11.25/kg for overall decent brands

Boner Wad
Nov 16, 2003

gvibes posted:

I was forced to use the external spool/manual feeding on the P1S for the first time (for a TPU print), and man, I did not appreciate quite how easy the AMS makes things.

It really sucks that the AMS doesn't work with TPU :( I'm sure the next version it'll work and I'll have buy that too.

Bondematt
Jan 26, 2007

Not too stupid

Boner Wad posted:

It really sucks that the AMS doesn't work with TPU :( I'm sure the next version it'll work and I'll have buy that too.

Not likely, unless there is a major change to how it works. Pushing a wet noodle through a tight hole that curves is pretty difficult.

What I think is more likely to happen there is since multi-material has really become consumer(or at least "prosumer") level, that we might start seeing some kind of TPU that is rigid until the first time it is melted. I don't know how the hell you are going to do that, but that's a problem for someone smarter than me.

So on the arc of dumb things. I was looking for a Saturn 2 FEP tensioner block as I think my last one was too tight. Saw one that was a single piece instead of two, printed it, went to change the FEP, and realized it was for a Saturn 1 when it was smaller than the vat frame :downs:

Anyway, 2 piece printing now.

Serenade
Nov 5, 2011

"I should really learn to fucking read"
Can you actually meaningfully anneal prints in a sous vide cooker?

I think about it every single time I see the title, but results seem inconclusive.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
It works, I made a whole post about it a while back.

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!
I accidentally very nearly melted an ASA part because I thought it was pc cf, does that count as annealing if I did it on a sous vide capable oven?

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008
I picked up on major sale from 3D PrintLife PLA which is 'Dura' which is supposed to be 'Nylon Like'. Except, there are no analogs to how to print it. it claims to want 175-195c and a cold bed, but i have reprinted my Hydra AMS parts a few times in it since it keeps failing. 185, 45 bed, and low aux fan seem to be working so far, but i think I wont use this stuff again.

Non 3d print related: My monitor arm with my 24" and 32" monitor held strong to the table, but the table broke off a huge chunk and it all fell to the floor. Rip 32" 1440 monitor, i hardly knew ye. At least I didnt pay a lot for it. But i need another, and a new table

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Finished up another helmet this weekend.

Blue Beetle from do3d.com

Printed in this awesome cc3d sapphire blue silk PLA that almost looks metallic.

https://imgur.com/gallery/Z25t8wH

Bondematt
Jan 26, 2007

Not too stupid
Ok so how do you pour out the Mercury X/S wash station containers without getting resin contaminated IPA everywhere?

Edit: Man, I made the mistake of letting this sit for a few months after my last print and so much crap has precipitated out. This is going to be a bitch to clean.

Don't be me, clean your first wash IPA before leaving it.

DP: I just poured quick into a large flat container, and then from there into some bottles for cleaning.

Bondematt fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jan 20, 2024

gvibes
Jan 18, 2010

Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Boner Wad posted:

It really sucks that the AMS doesn't work with TPU :( I'm sure the next version it'll work and I'll have buy that too.
And of course, switching back to PLA, TPU got stuck in the extruder. Was not terrible to remove, actually

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

mattfl posted:

Finished up another helmet this weekend.

Blue Beetle from do3d.com

Printed in this awesome cc3d sapphire blue silk PLA that almost looks metallic.

https://imgur.com/gallery/Z25t8wH



God drat, that's a nice print.

DoLittle
Jul 26, 2006
The airfoil is getting there. Just waiting for the tensioning wire to arrive.

The next one might a bigger one printed in the foaming PLA Aero with some carbon fibre on top. Anyone here who has used that?



kid sinister
Nov 16, 2002

DoLittle posted:

The airfoil is getting there. Just waiting for the tensioning wire to arrive.

The next one might a bigger one printed in the foaming PLA Aero with some carbon fibre on top. Anyone here who has used that?





What's the application?

Bondematt
Jan 26, 2007

Not too stupid
It foils air.

gbut
Mar 28, 2008

😤I put the UN🇺🇳 in 🎊FUN🎉


Looks like it’s going to be a sick Subaru WRX wing.

hark
May 10, 2023

I'm sleep

gbut posted:

Looks like it’s going to be a sick Subaru WRX wing.

"YOU wouldn't
DOWNLOAD
a SPOILER"

DoLittle
Jul 26, 2006
It is a (lower) rear wing for an older Alfa race car. The rules limit size and placement of wings. Thus it needs a varying angle-of-attack to work as a wing and needs the right dimensions that car and installation. The present shape is based on E423-II profile and whole car CFD simulations. Once it is installed we need to put some flow vis paint on it to see how those match with reality.

mrbass21
Feb 1, 2009
New Bambu P1s firmware patch: https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/p1/manual/p1p-firmware-release-history

quote:

* Feature Optimizations
* Refine the log system and remove all debug logs that are not necessary for end-users. Thanks to X1plus team's feedback.
* Added a new error code to detect SD card reading errors during printing.
* Added a new handy pop-up message to prompt "Print Paused" when pausing the print (turn on system notifications to receive the message push).

Bug fixes
* Addressed intermittent AMS retraction failures.
* Resolved the problem of repeated startup failures.
* Fixed the abnormal display of user-defined filaments in Bambu Studio's filament settings.
* Fixed the issue where the newly generated timelapse failed to refresh when accessing SD card files from BambuStudio.

I hope the retraction failures really does address problems I've had.

Sir Bobert Fishbone
Jan 16, 2006

Beebort

mrbass21 posted:

New Bambu P1s firmware patch: https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/p1/manual/p1p-firmware-release-history

I hope the retraction failures really does address problems I've had.

How's the noise on the P1S (or indeed any modern printer)? My old Monoprice Mini was loud enough that it was audible a few rooms away. I'm looking into getting a new printer but it'd probably have to go in my home office, which is a.) where I spend a decent amount of time, and b.) one room away from our bedroom. Any recommendations for printers that can be set to be as quiet as possible, even if it means cranking down the speeds?

mrbass21
Feb 1, 2009

Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:

How's the noise on the P1S (or indeed any modern printer)? My old Monoprice Mini was loud enough that it was audible a few rooms away. I'm looking into getting a new printer but it'd probably have to go in my home office, which is a.) where I spend a decent amount of time, and b.) one room away from our bedroom. Any recommendations for printers that can be set to be as quiet as possible, even if it means cranking down the speeds?

Bambu recently released a firmware update that had noise cancelling. I can hear the fans and chamber fan, but I barely hear it printing. I actually was printing yesterday and watching a movie and I had to check on the printer a couple of times because I couldn't hear it.

It does make noise, but not very much.

Disclaimer: My only comparison is the Bambu before the noise cancelling and an Ender 3 with the 4.2.2 board, both of which are considered "loud" printers.

Snackmar
Feb 23, 2005

I'M PROGRAMMED TO LOVE THIS CHOCOLATY CAKE... MY CIRCUITS LIGHT UP FOR THAT FUDGY ICING.

quote:

* Fixed the issue where the newly generated timelapse failed to refresh when accessing SD card files from BambuStudio.

Doh, I just formatted the SD cards in all of my printers last night because of this. The earlier firmware revision changed the naming scheme of the timelapse files which apparently caused the confusion

mrbass21
Feb 1, 2009

mrbass21 posted:

Bambu recently released a firmware update that had noise cancelling. I can hear the fans and chamber fan, but I barely hear it printing. I actually was printing yesterday and watching a movie and I had to check on the printer a couple of times because I couldn't hear it.

Edit: I have mine upstairs in an open landing area. I can hear thumps in the wall as the printer swings around the toolhead, but it's not terrible. If you are on the first floor, you probably won't have that issue.

It does make noise, but not very much.

Disclaimer: My only comparison is the Bambu before the noise cancelling and an Ender 3 with the 4.2.2 board, both of which are considered "loud" printers.


I'm dumb and posted this as a new post instead of an edit.

For content: I floated the idea if building a Voron 2.4 to my fiancée, and it is apparently not more important than saving for the wedding.

Opinionated
May 29, 2002



DoLittle posted:

It is a (lower) rear wing for an older Alfa race car. The rules limit size and placement of wings. Thus it needs a varying angle-of-attack to work as a wing and needs the right dimensions that car and installation. The present shape is based on E423-II profile and whole car CFD simulations. Once it is installed we need to put some flow vis paint on it to see how those match with reality.

Looks good so far, but hopefully it won't be left out in the sun if it's being printed from lightweight PLA!

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:

How's the noise on the P1S (or indeed any modern printer)? My old Monoprice Mini was loud enough that it was audible a few rooms away. I'm looking into getting a new printer but it'd probably have to go in my home office, which is a.) where I spend a decent amount of time, and b.) one room away from our bedroom. Any recommendations for printers that can be set to be as quiet as possible, even if it means cranking down the speeds?

With the new firmware update, the Bambu is now very quiet. Before I had to re-consider printing when watching TV, now I have to check that it's actually printing.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Gonna vaguepost vent here: I was watching an old scifi show and got the urge to 3d print a prop from it. Looked around and found a well-detailed STL already existing, except it was behind a patreon paywall. Fair enough, subscribe to the patreon to get the model, only to find out that the person has set it up so you can only see old models after subscribing for three months. And, no, there isn't a way to just pay three months of patreon subscriptions at once to get immediate access. I guess it's some thing where the long-time subscribers to the patreon were salty about paying for years to keep access and didn't want upstarts getting immediate access.

If the dude just sold individual STLs on a website, I'd be more than happy to pay for the single model and be on my way. Instead I have to wait multiple months, and then I'll probably download four or five models and move on with my life. Seems like a lose-lose situation for both of us.

I dunno, maybe there's some copyright reason why they can't sell STLs directly. Grumble.

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armorer
Aug 6, 2012

I like metal.

Bobulus posted:

Gonna vaguepost vent here: I was watching an old scifi show and got the urge to 3d print a prop from it. Looked around and found a well-detailed STL already existing, except it was behind a patreon paywall. Fair enough, subscribe to the patreon to get the model, only to find out that the person has set it up so you can only see old models after subscribing for three months. And, no, there isn't a way to just pay three months of patreon subscriptions at once to get immediate access. I guess it's some thing where the long-time subscribers to the patreon were salty about paying for years to keep access and didn't want upstarts getting immediate access.

If the dude just sold individual STLs on a website, I'd be more than happy to pay for the single model and be on my way. Instead I have to wait multiple months, and then I'll probably download four or five models and move on with my life. Seems like a lose-lose situation for both of us.

I dunno, maybe there's some copyright reason why they can't sell STLs directly. Grumble.

Maybe just message them?

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