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Malikov posted:I predicted years ago on the F4W board that Dwayne would end up president with Heyman running creative (I figured that he was hanging around waiting for Vince to die). Things might be falling into place. Cool man, hyped for you.
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Shinjobi posted:Local sports station talked about the news, and none of this is funny but I did have an extremely dark lol about how their demeanor changed as the story continued. At the very beginning they were trying to find some yucks where they could, but by the end of it the whole tone was extremely somber. I wish more podcasters were like Voices of Wrestling and soberly talked about the truly horrible stuff because wrestling fans are only going to watch clips and read aggregation on the subject
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Dango Bango posted:Wouldn't this match Brian Nurse better since he was in legal and released in November 2020 as the lawsuit explicitly states? You are correct I will edit.
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cagliostr0 posted:If I'm remembering correctly this is being filed in California. Currently the suit is only allegations from one party against another and will probably remain that way until there is a settlement or discovery happens. During discovery if something like what happened during the quattrone discovery occurs then it will dramatically and negatively affect the verdict of the jury which recommend the financial penalties in cases like this. if matt levine's newsletter has taught me anything, we are well into securities fraud territory already.
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Malikov posted:I predicted years ago on the F4W board that Dwayne would end up president with Heyman running creative (I figured that he was hanging around waiting for Vince to die). Things might be falling into place. I mean, if Brock is implicated I'm sure Heyman is somewhat in the know about everything too. If Endeavor wants everyone involved out the place is going to be a ghost town.
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Drakkel posted:Cody may actually live up to his boyhood dream of being the booker just through attrition hearing that raw is going to have a very small crew backstage going forward.
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Jan 27, 2024 05:27
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My kingdom for a wrestling journalist who could write a decent article without calling the victim a "mistress" or resisting the urge to work "no chance in hell" into things.
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JUNGLE BOY posted:https://x.com/WrestlePurists/status/1751080352888610955?s=20 This is probably as good as one could hope for, which sucks, because that also means all the executives at Endeavor who were completely cool with Vince and his many crimes when they paid him hundreds of millions of dollars and made him TKO's figurehead will of course get away with it unless you can somehow talk them into firing themselves.
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STAC Goat posted:My kingdom for a wrestling journalist who could write a decent article without calling the victim a "mistress" or resisting the urge to work "no chance in hell" into things. This is why I was baffled earlier when people were disappointed a lot of talking heads were silent on the issue.
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I was hoping for some major "gently caress you Vince" chants or something at the Rumble, and despite his retiring I still hope that happens. In general the crowd making GBS threads all over one of WWE's biggest events would be absolutely called for and a delight to see. And I think a strong and prolonged negative crowd response has a unique potential to cause TKO to really clean house of anyone remotely connected to this awful thing.
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NowonSA posted:I was hoping for some major "gently caress you Vince" chants or something at the Rumble, and despite his retiring I still hope that happens. It would be nice but don't hold your breath.
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CarlCX posted:This is probably as good as one could hope for, which sucks, because that also means all the executives at Endeavor who were completely cool with Vince and his many crimes when they paid him hundreds of millions of dollars and made him TKO's figurehead will of course get away with it unless you can somehow talk them into firing themselves.
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Akileese posted:It's a complete and utter refusal to see a human being as anything other than property that shook me to the core. We've all been around these parts (as in Something Awful and the internet for a while) so we've some poo poo, but nothing could possibly prepare me for how horrible this was. I didn't get close to getting through it all, then I saw some of the texts and it pretty much broke me once I internalized another person was put through this pre-meditated horror. Thank you and everyone else here who's been so unequivocal about your condemnation of this. You don't know how much it means to read people's disgust and horror instead of derision and victim blaming. What this woman experienced is an abomination, and it's so hard because this circumstance happens to so many vulnerable people.
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Drakkel posted:Cody may actually live up to his boyhood dream of being the booker just through attrition 3 hour Codyverse.
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NowonSA posted:I was hoping for some major "gently caress you Vince" chants or something at the Rumble, and despite his retiring I still hope that happens. That's 100% not happening and I guarantee you if he hadn't been fired today he would have walked out on stage to thunderous applause, bows, and "THANK YOU VINCE" chants. The loving harshest reality of this whole situation is that the only thing Vince could possibly do to piss off the WWE crowd is being bad at booking.
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Drakkel posted:Cody may actually live up to his boyhood dream of being the booker just through attrition oh he'll be the booker alright lol
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Drakkel posted:That's 100% not happening and I guarantee you if he hadn't been fired today he would have walked out on stage to thunderous applause, bows, and "THANK YOU VINCE" chants. I mean he was and they didn't boo him, so not even that.
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MassRafTer posted:Since there is a lot of confusion as to who is who in the lawsuit, here is a quick breakdown. Kevin Dunn was on the Executive Committee of WWE's Board of Directors for a very, very long time in addition to being the EVP of production (it was one of the things that insulated him from Triple H and Steph attempting to execute a putsch against him).
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Will be fascinating to see what happens to HHH going forward. This suit isn’t even about him, but paints a terrible picture of him to those who have a clue. It’s obviously him based on the information provided. Ari and them at Endeavor may be getting new information about Corporate Officer number 1 with this filing. I wonder if the general public catches on. I guess he could also admit to some corporate malfeasance in hiring Vince a GF with a dummy job and play dumb on how brutal Vince was about it all. He thought it was consensual, etc. If I’m Ari, I’m firing him immediately. there’s no reason not put Heyman in there, or Shawn or whoever.
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I mean to be fair if we're talking cleaning house I don't think you can include loving Paul Heyman and Shawn Michaels on the list of squeaky clean individuals.
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Is Paul IRL as close with Brock as he appears on-screen? If so it strains credibility that he wouldn't have some visibility into what he was up to.
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Timby posted:Kevin Dunn was on the Executive Committee of WWE's Board of Directors for a very, very long time in addition to being the EVP of production (it was one of the things that insulated him from Triple H and Steph attempting to execute a putsch against him). Dunn was off of the board of directors in 2015. He is listed in 2014 filings but not 2015, and not 2019-2022. I have no idea where Dunn's office was recently but last I heard his office was in the TV studio with his unit and not the 4th floor with the other executives.
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Drakkel posted:I mean to be fair if we're talking cleaning house I don't think you can include loving Paul Heyman and Shawn Michaels on the list of squeaky clean individuals. Shawn and Heyman were just examples, and aren’t guys who had front office roles. Could be Jeff Jarrett or whoever. Would be impossible to ‘clean house’ and still have wwe at all if you’re firing anyone who worked with Vince
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'll believe it when I see it. I actually think they will use this to do a house cleaning but not to clean up the company but because they want to cut jobs. They probably won't touch executives or the real higher up though
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Professor Funk posted:Boom Everyone who aided and abetted Vince, especially anyone who either maintains significant authority within the industry or reaped the windfall of their abhorrent complicity, needs to be tried. If VKM just walks away and ties everything up in courts until his overdue passing, then gently caress everything.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Is Paul IRL as close with Brock as he appears on-screen? If so it strains credibility that he wouldn't have some visibility into what he was up to. Paul and Brock have been close friends for basically his entire career.
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kalensc posted:Everyone who aided and abetted Vince, especially anyone who either maintains significant authority within the industry or reaped the windfall of their abhorrent complicity, needs to be tried. Welcome to America, my guy
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On the identity of “WWE Superstar”, the two key points that indicate it being Brock Lesnar are as follows:quote:195. On August 26, 2021, [sic] WWE held its second biggest annual event, SummerSlam, in Las Vegas' Allegiant Stadium. Around this time, McMahon and WWE Superstar privately reached an informal agreement about his return. The two most high-profile returns around (and indeed, at) SummerSlam 2021 were Brock Lesnar and Becky Lynch. Obviously, it’s not Becky. quote:25. Even after pushing Ms. Grant out of the Company and muzzling her with an NDA, McMahon continued efforts to exploit her, including attempting to traffic her to a WWE star who would be in New York City for a live event and TV taping in March 2022. Lesnar worked both the MSG house show on March 6th and the SmackDown taping at the Barclays Center on March 26th. Lesnar working the house show was kind of weird even at the time – his last non-PPV match was squashing Kofi on the first FOX SmackDown in 2019, and Lesnar’s opponent at MSG, Austin Theory, was only told he was working an hour before the match. Sure, it was MSG and they wanted to further the Roman feud, but why not do it on TV on SmackDown? There’s also some other less concrete stuff in the suit, such as the former UFC Heavyweight Champion (who may or may not be also Brock) who Vince was already sharing images of Grant with, the word “Brock” fitting in the redacted part of the “tool won’t fit” text message, and the fact that WWE Superstar is high-profile enough that Vince had him flown into New York to negotiate directly. Also, the original creative plan for late 2021 was for Finn Bálor to have a much longer feud with Roman Reigns, until Lesnar’s return changed plans, which indicates the return was cutting it close.
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C. Everett Koop posted:So given today's events, it's clear that TKO is wanting to settle as quickly as possible and get their name out of the headlines. Assuming that the victim is also willing to settle, what's the dollar amount that would trigger having to report the settlement in their figures and risk the shareholder suit? I could see the victim wanting to be done with all of this, but shareholders are only going to rival goons in wanting their pound of flesh. The disclosure of settlements on a 10-k is 10% of a company's net assets. Depending on how tko financed the merger it's possible a 10m settlement could hit this due to debt obligations. Regardless of the settlement amount there is a clear case for securities fraud because the board had material information that would affect the stock price in a notable way and did not report it in the 10-k for 2021 or 2022. Connecticut also allows the jury to recommend punitive and restorative damages to the court as part of their delivery of a verdict. A good example of the jury exercising this power to set a moral message was the Alex Jones case which was also in Connecticut. This could easily turn into a cung le level problem for tko because if there is recorded conversations between executives or board members about Vince being the main character from a marquis de sade story then all the shareholders and the sec will be lining up for their personal chance to kick endeavour/tko in the balls. The reason I kept mentioning quattrone was that he sent an email with the subject line 'its time to clean up those files' and is the poster boy for what is evidence of intent regarding communications. With the texts in the suit I can't imagine that in the backups there wouldn't be some insane incriminating poo poo.
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TinTower posted:On the identity of “WWE Superstar”, the two key points that indicate it being Brock Lesnar are as follows: The fact the WSJ actually named Brock in the article guarantees it's him.
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Chris Jericho has to be sending the world’s biggest, most lavish fruit basket to Vince right now.
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Timby posted:Kevin Dunn was on the Executive Committee of WWE's Board of Directors for a very, very long time in addition to being the EVP of production (it was one of the things that insulated him from Triple H and Steph attempting to execute a putsch against him). Executive 1 being Dunn and Executive 2 being Mark Carrano (whose toadying to Vince while getting on the bad side of everyone else became public after the Mickie James trash bag fiasco) seems possible. Both seem like guys Vince would think he could trust with secrets. bloodysabbath posted:Chris Jericho has to be sending the world’s biggest, most lavish fruit basket to Vince right now. Or if you want to be funny, Bret Hart. mkay0 posted:Will be fascinating to see what happens to HHH going forward. This could be corporate skullduggery where there was a decision that Vince had to go and people inside helped provide access and details about corporate dealings. If they did, they would want to not be identified in the filing. In other words, it's just as possible Trips helped bury Vince here. Maybe I just want to believe this company will stop being slime toward people, but I still think it makes more sense Vince trusts Dunn with this than the guy who could tell Steph, who could tell Linda. EDIT: There's also the part where HHH nearly died of heart failure around the time of the NDA stuff. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Jan 27, 2024 |
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Something so jarring when reading about this is just how recent it all was, it's easy to get desensitised to stories about cases of abuse that take place in the 80s or some other time but then you see a reference to COVID in the testimony and you're reminded this is evil poo poo was going on when he was on TV with that loving egg
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