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strength has not been rare for my esper so far but def def has been. according to apocryphal gamefaqs information str is more likely to go up if you swing weapons and def if you get hit, and i do swing with weapons sometimes on my esper for real trashy fights where i dont wanna use something better.
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 22:07 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 21:25 |
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In FFLII there's a really clear connection between what you use and what stats you gain, in this one it's seeming pretty iffy. The DEF in espers is basically just a free bonus given humans can't raise innate DEF at all. Or use the cheap magic books that are better than any expensive weapon in the game and will wipe an enemy group in one hit all the way to the last dungeon
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 22:15 |
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I've played through FFL many times and mutants have always seemed completely random to me.
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 22:20 |
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my espers keep getting stone or death gaze it owns
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 22:22 |
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: Collect two spheres
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:16 |
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I just got to the second world, and my esper is def carrying the team. The spell book is busted
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 23:41 |
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im being pranked rn
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:14 |
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Started the final fantasy legend and my mutant girl named Fart has an attack called stench goty
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:21 |
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didn't know you were into that
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:23 |
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: Get a mutant character to 99 mana (PLATINUM)
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:25 |
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cool skeleton
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:41 |
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Get you a couple of stone books and kill most bosses easy
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:41 |
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Leadthumb posted:
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:56 |
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how does this compare to other saga games if i like the weird leveling and hate everything else about it
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 00:59 |
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the weird leveling and weapon durability are the only significant SaGa things in FFL. Otherwise it's just a simple 8 bit JRPG.
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 01:02 |
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: Get a human character to 99 strength and agility
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 01:16 |
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: Enter the tower for the first time funny little game so far.
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 01:39 |
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American McGay posted:You people need to be killed. lmfao
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 05:01 |
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havent had a chance to start FFL yet, if i'm a neanderthal who just likes attacking over and over & not overthinking systems how rough of a time am i in for
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 05:03 |
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feels like the humans are the weakest althgouh maybe once theyre 99d on agi and str with the last tier of weapons ill feel different. my mutant/esper has two group wide instant deaths + damage resist and also gets to wear a full armor set + auto levels agi/str for the same weapons as the humans, and the monster since world 2 has just been one tapping everything and at this point has 666 hp, 75 def, and resists all damage types
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 05:10 |
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: Get a human character to 99 strength and agility : Get a mutant character to 99 mana (PLATINUM) : Beat the game Fwiw I didn't get anyone to 99 mana til like right before the 2nd to last boss, but also didn't grind anywhere to purposely level it. Fun little game. Having no stats to check and keeping my fighter using a lightsaber and gun for most the game because it was cool was great lol. Shout out to both espers getting stone gaze and death gaze fairly early, I never let them switch away.
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 05:47 |
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Stux posted:feels like the humans are the weakest althgouh maybe once theyre 99d on agi and str with the last tier of weapons ill feel different. my mutant/esper has two group wide instant deaths + damage resist and also gets to wear a full armor set + auto levels agi/str for the same weapons as the humans, and the monster since world 2 has just been one tapping everything and at this point has 666 hp, 75 def, and resists all damage types Exact opposite experience. Monsters with stone/death are good but everything else is worthless. Esper with good magic has been the best, mine almost always attacks first too
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 05:56 |
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: Enter the tower for the first time I'm kind of enjoying how incredibly simple the goals and maps are in this game so far. And I feel like I only barely understand the monster system but I've been surviving fine so far by just having mine eat everything lol. also lmao at the piranha sprite:
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 05:56 |
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mbt posted:Exact opposite experience. Monsters with stone/death are good but everything else is worthless. Esper with good magic has been the best, mine almost always attacks first too guess it might be super reliant on which monster lines you get into. the one i ended up on is fire giant and it has 95 str and 93 mana w flame and tornado so it just out dpses everyone but the insta kill spamming esper lol
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 06:10 |
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Stux posted:feels like the humans are the weakest althgouh maybe once theyre 99d on agi and str with the last tier of weapons ill feel different. my mutant/esper has two group wide instant deaths + damage resist and also gets to wear a full armor set + auto levels agi/str for the same weapons as the humans, and the monster since world 2 has just been one tapping everything and at this point has 666 hp, 75 def, and resists all damage types This was my experience until I got to a point where every trip to town I could buy a bunch of potions, then it slightly evened out between the human(s) and espers
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 12:26 |
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It's a very weird design wherin humans will stay broadly mid-tier throughout the game and need a lot of financial investment whereas espers will start weak and then become unstoppable monsters once you've bought the spellbooks for 500. The only bad thing about espers is the one late game boss with spell resistance
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 13:01 |
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it's a very unorthodox system (humans have to buy all their stats, espers/mutants are slaves to the rng, monsters change entirely every four or so battles, the entire lives system thing) that i didn't quite understand until halfway through the first world. to be fair, i basically went in completely blind without so much as looking at a manual, so that one's on me.
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 13:34 |
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It's a loving mess. SaGa ftmfw
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 13:37 |
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P-Mack posted:It's a loving mess. SaGa ftmfw
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 14:04 |
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P-Mack posted:It's a loving mess. SaGa ftmfw
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 14:13 |
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Humans are the best class in the GB version by a huge margin thanks to bugs. It seems that Mutant skills don't double up on WSC. Big improvement over GB where you'd spend all of Continent running around with 3 copies of Telepathy and a Flame weakness.
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 14:47 |
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Cuts both ways though, don't get to double up on Armor or one of the good damage skills.
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 14:58 |
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P-Mack posted:It's a loving mess. SaGa ftmfw yeah lol
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 16:09 |
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This game would be garbage if it was hard but in fact it's kind of sick
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 16:16 |
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the start of world 4 was actually a lil hard due to its gimmick and i could feel my patience for the game greatly diminish lol. world 4 wasnt that long though so it got better.
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 16:24 |
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got stuck in what I think is world 2? the first new overworld map that you get to after entering the tower. i have similar dumb brain like this:symbolic posted:havent had a chance to start FFL yet, if i'm a neanderthal who just likes attacking over and over & not overthinking systems how rough of a time am i in for it's not bad though. main thing is that it's way different than a Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest game where you just keep making numbers go up with fancier gear and traditional exp/leveling. it's an interesting system and i'm curious to go back to FFL2/3 and to try the SNES SaGa games now. : Enter the tower for the first time
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 17:15 |
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tmfc posted:got stuck in what I think is world 2? the first new overworld map that you get to after entering the tower. if you mean the ocean with lots of islands, one of the tiny little circular islands can be controlled like a boat, letting you roam freely without having to deal with those caves anymore.
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 17:19 |
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The Kins posted:do you mean the place where everyone's happy and just eating and sleeping? that's just a small side diversion, keep going until you can't go further ty. made it to both, thought maybe i had missed some task in the place where everyone's happy, but clearly i was missing something in the actual world 2.
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 17:27 |
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The Kins posted:check "config" in the pause menu, it'll let you speed up the text in the battles a ton Thanks for the tip!
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 19:36 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 21:25 |
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The Kins posted:do you mean the place where everyone's happy and just eating and sleeping? that's just a small side diversion, keep going until you can't go further That's a great bit of storytelling. I love how you get to heaven immediately after the first section of the game, and you're supposed to just get bored and leave.
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# ? Jan 29, 2024 19:56 |