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Horny and erotic stuff in fantasy is definitely nothing new. But I think there is a new trend of what is basically just YA fantasy (like in terms of style, themes, characters etc) but the author makes the characters 20 instead of 15 so they can call it adult fantasy and have explicit sex passages and extreme horniness and it isn't gross. Those Rebecca Yarros books that blew up last year are a great example of this.
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SkeletonHero posted:Famous mystery novel The Eleventh Hour doesn't reveal the culprit in-story, but does reveal it in the appendix. The name of the swan is kept secret but an astute reader can figure it out on their own. As long as the reader knows, it counts. Gosford Park is a perfect mystery.
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Tik Tok convinced me to buy every single book in The Stormlight Archive. For now, I'm just starting Ready Player One. After that, Ready Player Two.
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Jedit posted:An ellipsis is, of course, the tasteful line of asterisks that indicates a transition between scenes and is used in the more genteel romantic fiction as a literary fade to black when the couple get it on. That's a dinkus. 
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Haystack posted:The best example of this I've seen in sci-fi/fantasy is Rachel Bach's Paradox series. It's mostly an action-oriented space opera about a power armored lady kicking space lizards, but the romance in the story is well written, important to the development of the characters and the plot, and very goddamn steamy. It'd be a poorer book if the sex scenes just faded to black. You just did a better job of selling this series than the blurbs ever did. Thanks! DurianGray posted:Maybe it's partly because I read a lot of queer, horror-adjacent genre stuff, but I can think of a lot of books I've read recently where the sex scenes are 100% there to develop the characters/vibes of the story without really being erotic (some even absolutely anti-erotic), and those books would be worse off if the sex scenes were cut out.  Haven't read Walking Practice but I agree with this 100% Also, speaking as someone who writes smut (not for sale anywhere) - if I'm writing IKEA instructions I know I've hosed up and it's time to shelf the WIP until I can bring the mood. Or, more importantly - written sex is, in my opinion, a physical dialogue between the characters. Even if it's just a simple dialogue ("I love you and want you to feel good") it's important to write that. You the reader should be leaving the scene understanding more about the characters - or at the bare minimum, affirmed that these characters had a reason for intimacy. I'll actually liken smut scenes to fight scenes - you can write insert tab A into slot B there too! Optimus Prime punches Megatron in the face. Bam. Wow. Don't you feel the action, the swinging emotion as they face off on the battlefield? The best action writers get you into the movement and emotion of the scene, and I'll cite the brilliant ship battles in Master and Commander for dragging you in by the throat. You feel the ships rocking as the men fire the cannons, as Jack's furiously trying to outthink his opponents, etc. Or: anyone can write physical movement poorly, but it takes skill to make it erupt into your mind, and that goes just as much for punching as it does hip thrusts.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Tik Tok convinced me to buy every single book in The Stormlight Archive. For now, I'm just starting Ready Player One. After that, Ready Player Two. Can we recommend you some novels? I'd love to get you a starter pack for reading fantasy or sci-fi!
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StrixNebulosa posted:Can we recommend you some novels? I'd love to get you a starter pack for reading fantasy or sci-fi! Please. I love Sci-Fi and Fantasy. I am trying to quit video games and replace them with books.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Tik Tok convinced me to buy every single book in The Stormlight Archive. For now, I'm just starting Ready Player One. After that, Ready Player Two.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Please. I love Sci-Fi and Fantasy. I am trying to quit video games and replace them with books. Try reading Pride of Chanur by CJ Cherryh - it's short (200 pages!) and fun space opera, about space lion people finding a weird alien sneaking on their ship. He's pink, furless, and is nothing like anything they've ever seen. What do you like in a plot? We'll rec stuff like it!
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mystes posted:Perhaps you should stop taking Fair enough. But there are some elite book collectors on there.
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StrixNebulosa posted:Try reading Pride of Chanur by CJ Cherryh - it's short (200 pages!) and fun space opera, about space lion people finding a weird alien sneaking on their ship. He's pink, furless, and is nothing like anything they've ever seen. War, Drama, Action, epicness.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:War, Drama, Action, epicness. Glen Cook's Black Company, it's about a mercenary company in a fantasy setting. The Malazan series sounds up your alley - it's a ten volume completed grimdark fantasy series about a falling not-Roman Empire.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Fair enough. But there are some elite book collectors on there.
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Hey, The Club Dumas is a fine work
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mystes posted:"Elite book collectors" makes it sound like they're rappelling into used books stores in tactical gear out of a helicopter https://www.tiktok.com/@moonsrarebooks StrixNebulosa posted:Glen Cook's Black Company, it's about a mercenary company in a fantasy setting. Ordered all. Need these Amazon points for free books.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:War, Drama, Action, epicness. Some recs based on this and the books you mentioned from TikTok: Use of Weapons by Iain Banks (epic, action scenes, lots of war, great opening scene, if you like it there are a bunch of other books in this universe) Gideon the Ninth by Muir (epic, action, war, drama) The Broken Earth by NK Jemisin (epic fantasy done right, lots of drama and action) This is How You Lose the Time War by El-Mohtar and Gladstone (zippy, popular, action) The Eye of the World by Jordan (better version of / inspiration for Stormlight Archives, epic, drama, war, action)
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buffalo all day posted:Some recs based on this and the books you mentioned from TikTok: I've heard of The Eye of the World from my old man before, so I'll have to see if he still owns the book. All of these getting ordered.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:War, Drama, Action, epicness. If you want the best military sci-fi, David Drake's Hammer's Slammers is where it's at. He mixes his experiences at Vietnam with mythology and puts it in space and you get a bunch of novels and short stories about space war.
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buffalo all day posted:Gideon the Ninth by Muir (epic, action, war, drama) Okay, I haven't read the sequels yet, but Gideon the Ninth is more of a "necromancers solve a haunted space house" plot. It is awesome, though.
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StrixNebulosa posted:Okay, I haven't read the sequels yet, but Gideon the Ninth is more of a "necromancers solve a haunted space house" plot. It is awesome, though.  sounds like you have some reading to do fair point though lol
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Gaius Marius posted:Hey, The Club Dumas is a fine work It is. So's Captain Alatrice.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Please. I love Sci-Fi and Fantasy. I am trying to quit video games and replace them with books. step 1: Do not read Ready Player One, if you started just put it down. It's absolutely objectively terrible and will turn you off reading because it's not a book it's just a list of cultural references and a guy screaming GET IT over and over in your ear. step 2: Pick up something light and easy to read like the Cradle series, it shares a lot of video game elements with the way he powers up and finds items and stuff. Stormlight is similar in that respect but is a little denser than Cradle so that's a suggestion if you bounce off early. Stormlight is also a fine place to start, but read it and whatever other Sanderson stuff you enjoy. step 3: Report back and ask for more, because Stormlight + Cradle level stuff is the easy to get into fantasy, and you'll probably want better stuff afterward. Malazan/Baru Cormorant/Graydon Saunders are all way better (in different ways) but are a little harder to get into if you're transitioning from video games.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:It is. So's Captain Alatrice. Last I looked I had a really hard time finding copies of all of those in English. It's been a good few years, I should check again.
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Just read Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun. It's better than anything else recommended
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Gaius Marius posted:Just read Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun. It's better than anything else recommended I love this series and you’re right but you absolutely cannot recommend it in this particular situation, lol
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buffalo all day posted:I love this series and you’re right but you absolutely cannot recommend it in this particular situation, lol guy is coming from like final fantasy, he's not gonna get Gene Wolfe lol
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:guy is coming from like final fantasy, he's not gonna get Gene Wolfe lol Amano did covers for both series. They couldn't be more compatible
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:step 1: Do not read Ready Player One, if you started just put it down. It's absolutely objectively terrible and will turn you off reading because it's not a book it's just a list of cultural references and a guy screaming GET IT over and over in your ear. Say less, I will wait for the Prime box to arrive on my doorstep.
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re c s e cooneys saint deaths daughter Wow that's a lot of rape for such a twee quickly white girl plot. I also hate that the rapist is described as psycho in the summary. Psychosis does not make people rapists!!! gently caress you!
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Gaius Marius posted:Just read Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun. It's better than anything else recommended man, I have bounced off of that book like three different times. It starts good, the writing is really excellent, then we slam directly into our protagonist hanging out with the least trustworthy guys of all time and I just can't proceed. I should pick it back up, but phooo.
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Gaius Marius posted:Amano did covers for both series. They couldn't be more compatible as the saying goes, judge a book by nothing but its cover
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Is this ever just shortened to "happy ending" The very fine difference between romance and Literotica buffalo all day posted:
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:step 1: Do not read Ready Player One, if you started just put it down. It's absolutely objectively terrible and will turn you off reading because it's not a book it's just a list of cultural references and a guy screaming GET IT over and over in your ear. I knew Ready Player One was bad and lame and still got annoyed with it.
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Ready Player One is better than the movie. Rainbows End is a much better novel featuring some similar concepts.
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StrixNebulosa posted:man, I have bounced off of that book like three different times. It starts good, the writing is really excellent, then we slam directly into our protagonist hanging out with the least trustworthy guys of all time and I just can't proceed. The narrator as well is shady af. Unfortunately it's very much a picaresque, and if you don't like that vibe I can't imagine it'd be worth muscling through it.
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StrixNebulosa posted:man, I have bounced off of that book like three different times. It starts good, the writing is really excellent, then we slam directly into our protagonist hanging out with the least trustworthy guys of all time and I just can't proceed. Dr.Talos never tells a lie
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Drake and Flint were the only not-right-wing guys at Baen right?
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VostokProgram posted:Drake and Flint were the only not-right-wing guys at Baen right? https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher_authors.cgi?38+name
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StrixNebulosa posted:Optimus Prime punches Megatron in the face. Go on...
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Mistborn: Secret History by Brandon Sanderson - $2.49 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B0NS93U/ The Book of Koli (Rampart #1) by MR Carey - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W54MPDZ/ The Praise Singer by Mary Renault - $3.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DCGJ6Y0/
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