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Eiba posted:Come to think of it, has Luffy ever fought a shorter opponent? Even Usopp is slightly taller than Luffy, though they're almost the same size. I had to look it up, the only character I could think of is Koby whose 2 inches shorter than Luffy post-growth spurt
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Cat Machine posted:”It is the most ridiculous power in this world!” I hope Buggy busts this out vs Shanks
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Cat Machine posted:”It is the most ridiculous power in this world!” How…how does he make it move? Eiba posted:Lucci is almost exactly seven feet tall. Man, would definitely not guessed Buggy as being almost six and a half feet tall, he gives off so much “I’m just a little guy, it’s my birthday, you wouldn’t punch the birthday boy would you?” energy.
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Last Celebration posted:How…how does he make it move? That *is* a little guy in the OP universe.
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A thought on the Kuma flashback. It was a GOAT flashback for sure, but the one thing that bugged me was the chapter where Kuma and Vegapunk make a deal with Saturn. His increasingly detailed and specific demands just seemed very stilted and artificial. I felt like it was pretty obvious the story wanted to go to a very specific place, but had trouble taking the last steps there in a natural way. Same with the CP0 lady tearing the letters apart, it felt like there was no reason for it other than "mean lady bad". While I do understand the surface level logic of preventing communication of secret messages etc between the two, that was not presented as a reason so it just came off as a random spiteful move. I felt like this transition into the last chapters took away some of their impact. Another thing I felt like as well was that the overall story beats were very, very similar to early East Blue / Alabasta stuff. And we know Kuma and his cyborg-ish design has been a thing since around Jaya. This story must have been resting in Oda's head for almost 20 years! It's a remarkable writing feat to keep the lid so tight on so many ideas for so long. A lesser writer wouldn't have had that much patience.
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Feb 4, 2024 11:48
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Bisse posted:it just came off as a random spiteful move Yes, that is the point. Even when it gains them nothing, they are reflexively cruel. They will absolutely, positively brutalize everyone to the maximum degree possible....simply because they want to. They are monsters.
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Feb 4, 2024 12:21
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I mean, I kinda get OP’s point, (not sure if this actually merits spoiler tags but whatever)like yeah it is extremely on brand for a Celestial Dragon to do the things Saturn did, but as far as we know Alpha was just a Cipher Pol officer, and destroying the letters was just petty and vindictive in a way that served no purpose (which is fine) but ALSO just served no purpose to her job and actively impeded it. Like, Saturn started gloating about how he was the cause of Ginny and Bonney’s terminal illnesses, but he didn’t do it while negotiating with Kuma because that would just be stupid and lead to him going somewhere else to cure Bonney.
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Last Celebration posted:I mean, I kinda get OP’s point, (not sure if this actually merits spoiler tags but whatever)like yeah it is extremely on brand for a Celestial Dragon to do the things Saturn did, but as far as we know Alpha was just a Cipher Pol officer, and destroying the letters was just petty and vindictive in a way that served no purpose (which is fine) but ALSO just served no purpose to her job and actively impeded it. Like, Saturn started gloating about how he was the cause of Ginny and Bonney’s terminal illnesses, but he didn’t do it while negotiating with Kuma because that would just be stupid and lead to him going somewhere else to cure Bonney. Hmm this is actually spot on. Like I had a general feeling something about her behaviour didn't click but this is right on the money. Sure, celestial dragons and CPX agents can be some absolutely heartless monsters, but they are also smart, patient and dedicated with a sense of duty. CP9 spent years pretending to be dockworkers without going out of cover for even a minute. Then here is this CP0 agent tasked with ensuring the WG a new superweapon who just, hates this kid for no specific reason, and actively risks her cover by interfering with the letters, for no reason other than "grr hatred evil". If she started spouting angry rants and doing this kind of stuff after having her cover blown or after mission completion, that wouldn't have felt as out of place. I think the plot just needed to go to "Kuma can't meet or communicate with Bonney" but had to stretch things out of shape a bit to get there.
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alpha was cutting off all communication because kuma might have let something slip. she took joy in doing so because she's horrible.
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Wasn’t one of Saturn’s stipulations that Kuma and Bonney could not contact each other? If so than if anything, CP woman was being a hero by making sure that promise wasn’t broken so that Saturn wouldn’t retaliate
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kuma was not allowed to meet bonney. letters were ostensibly permitted, but it's not like kuma could make sure that they were received.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:alpha was cutting off all communication because kuma might have let something slip. she took joy in doing so because she's horrible. I mean, she’s already reading the letters since she’s bitching about how sappy they are, which kind of by default means there was nothing problematic or she’d just be gloating about how she stopped him from letting too much slip too.
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it's possible to hide information using shared experiences. stuff like "do you remember x" when it was actually y and only the people directly involved would know. it's real basic poo poo. what it comes down to is that the wg did not trust kuma at all. what could he tell bonney, and what difference would it make? that doesn't matter, but it's better to be safe than sorry. that it also allowed a cp agent on a poo poo assignment to get her jollies by being cruel to a sick child was beside the point.
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the cruelty is the point in our nuanced and complicated real world, why wouldnt the cruelty be the point in the cartoon fascist world too? this aint rocket surgery
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Burning the letters was primarily spiteful rather than serving a practical purpose. And that’s fine. Bad guys doing petty, mean and spiteful things is on brand. It did end up blowing up in their faces by compelling Bonney to go out to sea to find Kuma, but Alpha didn’t know that would happen. Alpha probably expected Bonney to give up on Kuma after not hearing from him at all- bad guys underestimating other peoples sentimentality being something of a running theme for this arc. And as far as Alpha knew Bonney was just a powerless sick child. If Kuma did sneak her some valuable intelligence there’s no expectation of her being able to act on it. Wii Spawn Camper posted:the invincible cyborg sent to kill him is actually his dad’s business partner, Love the euphemism turning revolutionary soldiers into business partners.
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Scholtz posted:https://twitter.com/TCBScans/status/1754085233702457523 Post deleted, but I'm guessing it's about https://twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1754093396572999960?t=73fobbojwEwNJJrks4yjjA&s=19
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It was OPscans https://twitter.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1754155345612537985?t=lNuX9Xh5ScJzl_XarwyYRg
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hey all, i've been thinking about this chapter a lot since i read it, and i wanted to get down my thoughts on it because it really spoke a lot to me: hell yeah dude. gently caress yeah!
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Buggy why did you make your face the seat of your Buggymobile
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Elite posted:Love the euphemism turning revolutionary soldiers into business partners. Dragon: Revolution is my business, and business is good! Cat Machine posted:It was OPscans The Kumamoto Cybercrime division eh? “Wikipedia” posted:The current Japanese orthography for Kumamoto literally means "bear root/origin," or "origin of the bear." They got busted for leaking Kuma’s origin story, Oda fuckin’ does it again  kidcoelacanth posted:hell yeah dude. gently caress yeah! 
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https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/one-piece-chapter-1106/chapter/41624?action=read god gently caress yeah gently caress yeah gently caress yeah
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MorningMoon posted:https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/one-piece-chapter-1106/chapter/41624?action=read oh his laugh is lined up to the drum beat this entire time cool poo poo Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Feb 4, 2024 |
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I think Oda even made sure that detail carried over to the anime voice acting
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Potato Salad posted:oh I had to go back and read that to check. Oda is the real Egghead.
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Elite posted:Burning the letters was primarily spiteful rather than serving a practical purpose. And that’s fine. Bad guys doing petty, mean and spiteful things is on brand. From Alpha's perspective she's an incredibly elite government agent who's been tasked with babysitting the child of an ex-Revolutionary the government is blackmailing. She has every reason to view this child as an enemy. People in positions of power over helpless people have been crueler for fewer reasons. She has absolute power over someone she hates and views as helpless. What else is she going to do? And honestly the idea that there might be coded messages was more than enough cover for her cruelty. All of this is to excuse the story, to be clear. Alpha is a viscerally loathsome piece of poo poo. I'd just argue she's a plausible one. Her cruelty proving to be counterproductive is very thematically appropriate for this story where random acts of compassion are proving to undo the powerful authoritarian enemy's plans.
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I managed to stay unspoiled except for one thing that didn't register until I saw it in the chapter itself, and just got around to reading it. this chapter is PEAK one piece when did we last see dory and brogy? nearly a thousand chapters ago? jesus christ
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Captain Invictus posted:
No, we saw them last year, ch 1079. It was them who destroyed kidd's ship after shanks one shot them
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love the soldier that keeps his distance from Emperor Luffy because his thinks Luffy's gonna eat him too lol
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Julias posted:No, we saw them last year, ch 1079. It was them who destroyed kidd's ship after shanks one shot them
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Anyways feels relevant to post this again:
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Still think it's kind of lame and fanservicey considering they were still fighting in Little Garden as of FIshman Island and now they're just abruptly not and also somehow all the way back at Elbaf.
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Ryaomon posted:Still think it's kind of lame and fanservicey considering they were still fighting in Little Garden as of FIshman Island and now they're just abruptly not and also somehow all the way back at Elbaf. We established they had stopped a year ago
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Waffleman_ posted:We established they had stopped a year ago It was? I thought they were still punching each other in the Decks of the World thing we got near the start of the New World.
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Julias posted:Anyways feels relevant to post this again: Gonna be interesting to see what the WG does with the leakers, and if a new age of piracy will arise
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Last Celebration posted:It was? I thought they were still punching each other in the Decks of the World thing we got near the start of the New World. Again they were the ones who wrecked Kidd's ship
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Waffleman_ posted:Again they were the ones who wrecked Kidd's ship Yeah, we know, but that doesn’t address the “lame and fanservicey” thing OP brought up where as of a few weeks ago in-universe they were still fighting in Little Garden. Personally I don’t care that much, I’m sure we’ll eventually get a “proper” explanation for why they suddenly abandoned their sick Viking fisticuff ritual death battles, but I was just asking for clarification on the in-universe timeline, since last I remembered they were still on Little Garden at the start of the timeskip, which doesn’t contradict the complaint someone else had.
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