mewse posted:

I'm probably not reading this right but doesn't this suggest it could be the Maer and not the opposite?

Kchama posted:

He didn't even GET to the recap! He was defeated the FOREWORD.

M_Gargantua posted:

Vintas was a kingdom, but at some point got subsumed and now the Maer is the title of what is effectively a Duke with a lot of autonomous powers

If you're paying CK3 Calanthis only has Level 1 Crown Authority on him with a Scutage contract.

Lottery of Babylon posted:

So who's on the throne now?

The throne of what?

Is the University in the area governed by this throne? What about Inquisition City? What about the Mayor's City?

Is the Mayor a vassal of a king? If not, how is he not a king himself? If so, why is this never mentioned?

Are there other kings at all, or just the one?

A major plotline in the second book is an attempt to assassinate the Mayor. Is there a single actual suspect for who might benefit from this and have a motive and might be behind it?

It's genuinely baffling that in a series praised for its worldbuilding, the world seems so... unbuilt.

Ravenfood posted:

Well we've got University Town right next to Religion Town which is also Slum and Crime Town.

Also, those two towns are, iirc, in the Commonwealth which doesn't have a king but has ??? while the only named king is the king of Vintas. This is also separate from the Small Kingdoms who I guess are a collection of Kingdoms Rothfuss couldn't be assed to name or think about, so Kvothe could go kill some king nobody gives a poo poo about in bumfuck nowhere.

There is also an Empire at the center of all this but that Emperor does nothing, as far as I can tell, nor does that Empire have any particular military or cultural hegemony over any of its presumed former holdings. Kvothe iirc comes from that central Empire but nobody seems to notice or care and there is zero thought given to any of this.

PeterWeller posted:

He's gonna kill a king the exact same way he killed a dragon. It won't technically be a king, just some hereditary monarch at the head of some feudal system.

Kchama posted:

The Religion that notably hates the University and magic-users and is just a couple away days by slow wagon.

Also everyone who lives at the University Town all think wizards are Up To Something and bad, despite literally living on Wizard School grounds.

But yeah the world is extremely thinly sketched. Like you hear about a lot of places but none of them are particularly described or gone in very deep. Tarbean gets the most description and it's a one-and-done location for only the first bit of the first book.

Evil Fluffy posted:

This continues to be probably the 'best' dumb thing in the setting (the matriarchal sex ninja society is just dumb at every level) and also really drives home how dumb people who praise Rothfuss's "worldbuilding" are. There's no explanation as to why the church hasn't burned Great Value Hogwarts to the ground and executed every single student and teacher. In Tarbean(?) they show up and just arrest a dude for telling stories so it's not like the church is unwilling to act heavy-handed and there's nothing about the school that suggests they're so powerful that the church is afraid of losing if they attack it. If it's because of something like "the school has a defense pact with literally the rest of the world if the church attacks" is never mentioned or even hinted at iirc.

Evil Fluffy posted:

This continues to be probably the 'best' dumb thing in the setting (the matriarchal sex ninja society is just dumb at every level) and also really drives home how dumb people who praise Rothfuss's "worldbuilding" are. There's no explanation as to why the church hasn't burned Great Value Hogwarts to the ground and executed every single student and teacher. In Tarbean(?) they show up and just arrest a dude for telling stories so it's not like the church is unwilling to act heavy-handed and there's nothing about the school that suggests they're so powerful that the church is afraid of losing if they attack it. If it's because of something like "the school has a defense pact with literally the rest of the world if the church attacks" is never mentioned or even hinted at iirc.

M_Gargantua posted:

The second time he met Cinder was in the woods when he did the galvanic arrow thing.

M_Gargantua posted:

The second time he met Cinder was in the woods when he did the galvanic arrow thing.

pentyne posted:

Isn't the bandit interlude so weirdly placed into the narrative that it's very clearly a different short story he took and just changed the names around?

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

Hey new boo^H^H^Heditions coming out! Yours for the low low price of $1500!

https://grimoakpress.com/pages/faq-name-of-the-wind

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

Hey new boo^H^H^Heditions coming out! Yours for the low low price of $1500!

https://grimoakpress.com/pages/faq-name-of-the-wind

quote:

$1500 Triple-Signed & Rare genuine-leather edition with
-14 full-color interior illustrations,
- a full-color signature page,
- 4 full-color fold-out illustrations (dust jacket art from S&N editions plus 2 bonus fold-out illustrations),
- ribbon,
- hubs on spine,
- heavier paper,
- thicker boards,
- clamshell included

pentyne posted:

Like, at cost there's no way this is more then $30 of materials and labor. $100 if I'm being super generous and you know Rothfuss isn't commissioning $10k a piece artwork or anything.

quote:

Since this has come up elsewhere, let’s talk about lettered editions, with real math involved.
The print run and price point for this unnamed lettered edition were 26 copies at $850 apiece. 32 copies were actually produced. The author received two PCs, both Tim and I kept one, and two copies remain in our warehouse, in case legit lettered copies are lost or damaged, to be sent to the author or friends of the press, or used in a PC charity sale.
Gross sales: $22,100.00
Binding expenses: $11,691.00
Royalties: $3315.00
Total expenses: $15,006.00
Total profits so far: $7094.00
This means that 18 copies of the lettered edition needed to be sold before that edition became profitable.
The figures above amount to a profit of $273 per book, or would, without taking following into account:
- SubPress staff time devoted to the edition;
- Miscellaneous postage charges involved;
- Prorated cost for the artwork;
- Prorated cost for printing the unbound book blocks, and partially binding them before they’re sent to the specialty binder.
Please consider a few factors before evaluating whether you deem this level of profit excessive:
- This was not a huge book, so various costs were lower than some of our oversize editions. Those, at the same price point, are significantly less profitable.
- Though readers may think every lettered edition is guaranteed to sell out immediately, that is not an assumption we have the luxury of making.
Lettered editions with higher price points than the title above are almost always more profitable, but they:
- come with increased allocation of resources;
- are a riskier financial investment;
- allow us to use more expensive materials and features not possible at lower price points.

Ornamented Death posted:

You're way off on this. Here's Bill Schafer from Subterranean Press going over the math involved in these expensive editions:

The cost for specialty binding of small print runs is substantial. Like at a bare minimum those clamshell cases cost $150 to the press because they're handmade. Paul Suntup of Suntup Editions literally bought a bindery in part to try to keep costs down. Reputable publishers like SubPress, Suntup, and Grim Oak are not fleecing customers, they're charging what they need to charge to make a reasonable profit on their books.

Also Rothfuss's involvement in this is a) signing signature sheets and b) collecting a check; he has nothing to do with Grim Oak. Honestly, as much as I dislike Rothfuss, the fact Grim Oak was able to secure the rights to this is amazing because DAW keeps a damned stranglehold on their titles, almost never allowing limited edition presses to do editions of their books. A lot presses have been trying for damned near 20 years to secure this deal, so kudos to Shawn and his team for landing it.

pentyne posted:

drat those are serious numbers, small print runs look borderline ruinous if you don't presell before production.

Lottery of Babylon posted:

They should sell a box set of NotW and WMF and call it "The Complete Trilogy"

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Aww man, I bought a copy of The Last Unicorn in a Vibes & Scribes sale, and I just realised the forward is written by the bearded dweeb himself.

How many more years of not writing will it take for him to leave the discourse? In the time I typed this sentence Joe Abercrombie just released another book.

Captain Hotbutt posted:

Redditor posted:

Wait... so all the people in this sub who heard that publisher's complaint, panicked, and instantly jumped to the conclusion that there was 0% chance the book would ever be published, with no reason to believe that, and then dominated this subreddit with their bitter laments every day since, may have been wrong?

You don't say...

poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:

A technician at my new job lent me the KKC audiobooks and I just finished NotW and, uh, wow. poo poo's rough. Is Wise Man's Fear any better? I've been holding off on starting it because I can only take so much Weird Old Innkeeper Graphically Describes The Bodies Of Underaged Women From His Past, And Also His Weird Violent Fantasies.

poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:

A technician at my new job lent me the KKC audiobooks and I just finished NotW and, uh, wow. poo poo's rough. Is Wise Man's Fear any better? I've been holding off on starting it because I can only take so much Weird Old Innkeeper Graphically Describes The Bodies Of Underaged Women From His Past, And Also His Weird Violent Fantasies.

Chicken Butt posted:

And the Sex Faerie who is amazed at how good the protagonist is at doing sex, just like so many people in the first novel were amazed at how good he was at doing music and doing magic.

poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:

Unreliable narrator works for me, because the way Kvothe describes everything just sounds like some poo poo he made up on the fly and isn't consistent at all. Like when he was in the Archives with the candle and got punished for it even though there's no reasonable way for that to be his fault within the story but everyone conveniently ignores that fact, that's just a person who's bad at lying underselling what they did that got them banned from the Archives because they want you on their side.