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Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

gently caress COREY PERRY posted:

im buying the biggest most pollutingest truck and ripping out everything related to emissions we got this guys

The economic boost we'll get from that truck sale could push us over the top for climate funding and research.

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BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
I'll vote for whoever makes if legal for me to noogie people who say "I notice you drive a car!" Those scamps!

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008


and the next panel is the goatman

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
Biosphere collapse: The previous record, set in 2023

Confusedslight
Jan 9, 2020

unwantedplatypus posted:

Nuclear power is good for the environment because when they melt down they drive away human habitation and cancer isn’t a population-level threat to most animals

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

bedpan posted:

and the next panel is the goatman

that or img-timeline.jpg

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


bedpan posted:

and the next panel is the goatman
biosphere.gif

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Mola Yam posted:

hm. if we're at 1.7, i think it's time for someone to do something

Iceland built the word's largest carbon capture and storage plant

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Iceland built the word's largest carbon capture and storage plant

Iceland also has the world's largest carbon emitter (a big loving volcano)

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



smoobles posted:

Iceland also has the world's largest carbon emitter (a big loving volcano)

excuse me I'm working hard on the truck okay I'll catch up I swear

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/EliotJacobson/status/1754881796511055918

Ssthalar
Sep 16, 2007


:stoked:

Pussy Quipped
Jan 29, 2009

I always thought the ocean was just a little too cold so this is good actually

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Pussy Quipped posted:

I always thought the ocean was just a little too cold so this is good actually

We're really underperforming on our key toxic algae blooms and washed up dead deep ocean life metrics, and I think this new "boil the entire ocean until everything in it becomes chowder" initiative is going to turn things around

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

El Nino means "everything's fine, actually" in Spanish

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

But have you considered whether the child murdered by the driver of that truck was riding an oversized bike?!?! Children riding oversized bikes are the scourge of our roadways!!
El Niño = the Christ Child = the second coming of Christ = the Apocalypse? :bahgawd:

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

please stop sending me this graph

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021
i must not be fully broken yet, that chart gives me an itchy antsy feeling in my back like i'm forgetting something i need to do

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014


good time to invest your money in Y axes

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



What will the North Atlantic Sea temps look like once the amoc starts to fail??

Number goes up until it goes down?

Hit Man
Mar 6, 2008

I hope after I die people will say of me: "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."

Reminder: https://twitter.com/AnthonyQuintano/status/1744892262889263421?s=20

Car Hater
May 7, 2007

wolf. bike.
Wolf. Bike.
Wolf! Bike!
WolfBike!
WolfBike!
ARROOOOOO!
Boy I'm glad economic activity occurs indoors and not in the ocean!

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

But have you considered whether the child murdered by the driver of that truck was riding an oversized bike?!?! Children riding oversized bikes are the scourge of our roadways!!

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

That's fine, Greenland's not using it anymore anyway.

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.



it's part of greenland's green transition so it's good actually

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


The Oldest Man posted:

We're really underperforming on our key toxic algae blooms and washed up dead deep ocean life metrics, and I think this new "boil the entire ocean until everything in it becomes chowder" initiative is going to turn things around

carefully tasting a spoonful of ocean, looks like it needs to simmer for another couple of months before dinner

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014


They'll have to keep it in a big freezer so chances are it will last longer than if it was left in Greenland.

Ted Wassanasong
Apr 8, 2020

quiggy posted:

it's part of greenland's green transition so it's good actually

Cant be green with all this ice in the way!

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Number go up is good actually

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro

Demon Of The Fall posted:

lol

*crying, sobbing*

lol

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



RC Cola posted:

Number go up is good actually

promote this man

kyojin
Jun 15, 2005

I MASHED THE KEYS AND LOOK WHAT I MADE
El Noño

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Fun article. First, let's get the "look how far we've come!" optimism out of the way

A US engineer had a shocking plan to improve the climate – burn all coal on Earth
Less than a century ago, people believed setting alight every coal mine on the planet would be good for the climate. The fact we've come so far in our understanding since then provides hope for the future, argues historian Thomas Moynihan.

quote:

Not a week goes by without a steady stream of headlines conveying our worsening climate predicament. [...] Given this now-familiar news diet, it's sometimes difficult to maintain optimism when it comes to society's capacity to manage the climate crisis. But as a historian, I find it helps to zoom out.

Looking to the not-too-distant past reveals that the sheer fact we are aware of the issue is a genuine achievement. Easy to otherwise overlook, history throws into relief how far we have already come in our understanding.

and for now the meat. Scientists thought Earth needed a little bit of warming up...

quote:

For much of the 1800s, physicists had been led to believe our planet was, essentially, a cooling body: inexorably losing its finite fund of heat to space's void

[...]

Eunice Foote realised as far back as the 1850s that carbon dioxide retains heat and, thus, an Earthly atmosphere with more of it would be warmer.

[...]

Around this time, scientists also first made the link between humanity's burning of fossil fuels and Earth's future climate. Liberating colossal amounts of CO2, the planetary juggernaut of industrial civilisation suddenly seemed poised to rapidly warm our globe.

[...]

How did people respond to this conjecture? Having grown up fearing a frozen future, many rejoiced.

...and that was coming along nicely, thanks to industry. but some thought it needed warming up faster

quote:

And that brings us to William Lamont Abbott's case – and his erroneous beliefs about the benefits of burning all our reserves of coal.

For him, accelerating consumption wasn't enough. Estimating there are several trillion tonnes of carbon still locked underground globally, he reasoned that this storehouse, if "returned to the air", could increase atmospheric levels tenfold.

With staggering self-assurance, Abbott announced such a dramatic increase in CO2 would double Earth's arable surface, by transforming polar countries into temperate paradises. He envisioned perpetual summers, jungles in America's north-east, unprecedented crop yields, and unimaginably verdant environments; an outcome, he said, which was demanded by humanity's "increasing population".

imagine :allears:

quote:

Abbott then arrived at his action plan. Despite nonchalantly acknowledging scientists didn't yet understand all the intricacies, he arrived at his conclusion: "Let the nations of the Earth unite", he said, in immediately setting alight all their deepest coal seams, so as to release the planet's entire "treasure of carbon".

He even claimed countries ought not "regulate the fire to the varying demand of power", but simply "let it rage day and night" — luxuriantly and wastefully — in order to make the world's mines into one "roaring furnace".

I now desperately want to read an alternate history fiction in which this happened

Oh and in case you're wondering what Abbott (and others) thought about what would happen in the equatorial regions

quote:

Moreover, Abbott was not unique in holding these beliefs. [...] When they acknowledged a hotter world might unevenly make the Global South "suffer", they shrugged

*billions die* eh whatcha gonna do

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

The new(old?) dark and gritty Captain Planet reboot is looking pretty fire.

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

I actually really enjoyed that article, thank you for sharing. Here's the chief quote I enjoyed most:

quote:

Moreover, Abbott was not unique in holding these beliefs. Swedish physicist Svante Arrhenius — the period's leading expert on climate change — had also remarked, cheerfully, that global warming will only precipitate better climates and crops. Others readily assumed similar things. When they acknowledged a hotter world might unevenly make the Global South "suffer", they shrugged rather than shuddered.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Hubbert posted:

I actually really enjoyed that article, thank you for sharing. Here's the chief quote I enjoyed most:

the global south getting scourged by climate change is at worst seen as something worthy of a shrug by the global north. during less guarded moments, eager anticipation for the forthcoming "solution" to "overpopulation" is expressed.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

100% believe that within the halls of power, severe climate change is viewed favorably

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

bedpan posted:

the global south getting scourged by climate change is at worst seen as something worthy of a shrug by the global north. during less guarded moments, eager anticipation for the forthcoming "solution" to "overpopulation" is expressed.

... which, in turn, deliberately side-steps the true source ...



:(

edit: see below :negative:

Hubbert has issued a correction as of 22:48 on Feb 6, 2024

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The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Hubbert posted:

... which, in turn, deliberately side-steps the true source ...



:(

"lifestyle consumption emissions" is weasel words so we have no idea what the denominator in the data set of the chart even is

also centering the data on individuals and classifying it into deciles fails to acknowledge that the vast majority of the emissions in the bottom 99.999% of that chart are emitted to power economic activities that send profit upward to a 0.001% that aren't even given their own tranche on the diagram because Serious Publication's can't and won't ever include "relationship to capital" as a demarcation line on such a diagram

and finally

tranching the world's population into "rich" and "poor" but then breaking it down via income rather than assets to decide who is richer and who is poorer is one of the oldest statistical lies in the book

bottom line is it's probably actually like a million times worse than what the chart shows

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