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Feb 6, 2024 06:07
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Against the day is far less disorientating up front
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Feb 6, 2024 06:27
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I usually try to pace myself with the day so I get enough sleep
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Feb 6, 2024 06:42
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Gaius Marius posted:How do you mean pacing of the plot, frequency of events that occur which meaningfully impact the characters, etc
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Feb 6, 2024 07:19
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Gravity's Rainbow loses touch with reality frequently and isn't bothered to give its characters coherent arcs that are clearly delineated as the plot progresses. A seemingly important character in the first third of the book is practically never mentioned again, not directly anyways. Its pace is similar to the kind of dream you may have when wracked with fever, with certain vital facts suddenly become irrelevant and new things bubble up to shock you and send you hurtling towards some other conclusion. It mimics a war that is initiated with a clear purpose that continues until the Titans of its battlefields have lost all reason and vacillate between committing more atrocities and meandering around with beatific smiles and empty heads. Apologies if that's all too metaphorical I was crapping in the toilet
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Feb 6, 2024 14:42
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hannah posted:pacing of the plot, frequency of events that occur which meaningfully impact the characters, etc Lol
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Feb 6, 2024 15:18
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you can say what you want about gravity's rainbow and against the day but one thing they do not lack is events. on the upper end of books that i've read, in terms of sheer number of events. no comment on the other pacing-related desiderata
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Feb 6, 2024 16:06
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hannah posted:just wanna ask; what’s the pacing of Against the Day, and Gravity’s Rainbow? Yes
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Feb 6, 2024 17:12
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hannah posted:pacing of the plot, frequency of events that occur which meaningfully impact the characters, etc Hoo boy
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Feb 6, 2024 17:18
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I don't even know how to begin addressing that question. It's like asking if basketball is easier with a fork or a spoon.
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Feb 6, 2024 17:23
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mdemone posted:I don't even know how to begin addressing that question. It's like asking if basketball is easier with a fork or a spoon. I would say spoon for sure, providing it was sufficiently big enough
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Feb 6, 2024 17:26
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Fork would be useful on defense though
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Feb 6, 2024 17:30
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Anybody read The Day Lasts More Than a Hundred Years it was mentioned in this Knausgård book I'm still reading and it sounds interesting. If anyone knows how it's paced with regards to things happening to the characters and whatnot that would be really helpful
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Feb 6, 2024 17:36
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I think with pynchon novels pacing isn't so much a concern because it's actually more fun to be slightly under-leveled going into the final boss
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Feb 6, 2024 17:37
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Guys how is the pacing in Finnegan's Wake
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Feb 6, 2024 17:47
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Guys how is the pacing in Finnegan's Wake You don't wanna know
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Feb 6, 2024 17:50
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Guys how is the pacing in Finnegan's Wake High Colonic Energy
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Feb 6, 2024 17:51
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i started with Stoner today, its decent enough. realism is a good change of pace after a whole bunch of Fosse, Bolaño etc the last few months
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Feb 6, 2024 18:41
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Guys how is the pacing in Finnegan's Wake No idea about Finnegan but all the wakes I've been to have featured a lot of pacing. I find it very awkward receiving people from a chair but don't like standing like a statue.
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Feb 6, 2024 20:16
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hannah posted:pacing of the plot, frequency of events that occur which meaningfully impact the characters, etc answered over and over but on any given page between 0 and 400 incidents might be conveyed, and you may even notice some or all of them if you're on a roll
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Feb 6, 2024 20:31
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the world building
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Feb 6, 2024 20:38
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guys what kind of magic system does pynchon use, i only want to read about hard magic systems
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Feb 6, 2024 20:43
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ulvir posted:i started with Stoner today, its decent enough. realism is a good change of pace after a whole bunch of Fosse, Bolaño etc the last few months change of pace?
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Feb 6, 2024 21:11
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fez_machine posted:change of pace? not necessarily meant as “this is a quick read”, more figuratively. like, there’s a clear distinction between internal thoughts and events/story beats, and it’s even somewhat chronological.
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Feb 6, 2024 21:39
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Isnt Stoner like the pre-eminent sad professor fucks his students book that most people joke all American literary fiction is
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Feb 7, 2024 04:40
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People who make jokes like that usually know jack poo poo about anything.
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Feb 7, 2024 04:49
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well sure but its still funny that it is literally the archetype of sad professor fucks his student
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Feb 7, 2024 04:51
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Isnt Stoner like the pre-eminent sad professor fucks his students book that most people joke all American literary fiction is I would say Disgrace, maybe, but I guess it's not american and at least partly a satire of the subgenre
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Feb 7, 2024 06:44
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I always thought Stoner was a Cormac McCarthy style blood and guts book by the people who talk about it. I just finished the 1100 page Fernando Pessoa biography which was insanely good
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Feb 7, 2024 13:32
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Isnt Stoner like the pre-eminent sad professor fucks his students book that most people joke all American literary fiction is idk, 70ish pages in and so far he's only gone from a farmer's son to a PhD in literature, started teaching some courses and married the daughter of one of the Dean's friends (who also seems to be a benefactor to the university), so not a lot that just yet
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Feb 7, 2024 13:47
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I'm about 60 or so pages into Seiobo There Below and I was really expecting more in the vein of Melancholy or Satantango but it's anything but so far. This feels so much lighter and more conversational. It's celebratory, joyful even. Anyway it completely owns and I'm hooked
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Feb 7, 2024 13:52
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What's an acceptable events-per-page figure for a book to qualify as real literature?
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Feb 7, 2024 13:55
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3D Megadoodoo posted:What's an acceptable events-per-page figure for a book to qualify as real literature? Zero. Any more than that is genre.
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Feb 7, 2024 14:23
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Ras Het posted:I always thought Stoner was a Cormac McCarthy style blood and guts book by the people who talk about it. You're thinking of one of John Williams's other books, Butcher's Crossing.
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Feb 7, 2024 14:31
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lifg posted:Zero. Any more than that is genre. Oh no not genre! 
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Feb 7, 2024 14:36
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I keep trying to think of how to genuinely express the amount of events in a pynchon novel
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Feb 7, 2024 15:04
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I keep coming up with making a little sigh and waving my arms around
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Feb 7, 2024 15:05
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Isn't there that thing where somebody drew a picture for every page of Gravity's Rainbow?
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Feb 7, 2024 15:12
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lifg posted:Zero. Any more than that is genre. tfw Proust writes genre
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i still think on Stoner
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