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Milkfred E. Moore posted:I purchased Exordia just fine in Australia, as an ebook, at least. Which is also generally the UK release date, isn't it? I wanted to read it in dead tree form. 
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tildes posted:I read The Peace War yesterday, which was my first intro to Vernor Vinge. It was good enough that it got me to pick up and start A Fire Upon the Deep, and so far I am a huge fan. I think I’ll probably finish this series first, then maybe do the second book in the peace war universe, but what other books of his would y’all recommend? Rainbows End and The Snow Queen
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Kesper North posted:A climax, not the. It's very multiple. Fractal, even.
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voiceless anal fricative posted:Exordia is available on Amazon UK, maybe it's just that whatever bookseller you're using hasn't got any copies yet? My dude, that link literally says "Available February 27th 2024".
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Feb 7, 2024 12:47
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Jedit posted:My dude, that link literally says "Available February 27th 2024". The link for me shows the day I purchased it and can read it now from there, I'm in the UK and am reading it on my Kindle after buying it on Amazon UK. So I dunno why it's showing different at least!
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Feb 7, 2024 12:54
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The physical hardback is 27th, the digital (ebook / audiobook) are available now. Amazon is probably switching the default version based on your buying history.
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sebmojo posted:i've always wondered - is this funny because it's wildly inaccurate? it seems about as right as most of the stuff that was coming out at the time, hits some, misses some? Someone more familiar with the thread might remember more accurately but I'm pretty sure the term came about due to him just attaching poo poo to the wall to hold it up. I think it's funny because it was just one of the many, many insanities about the construction.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Someone more familiar with the thread might remember more accurately but I'm pretty sure the term came about due to him just attaching poo poo to the wall to hold it up. I think it's funny because it was just one of the many, many insanities about the construction. You're talking about the Grover house but the question is about the Grover iraq war predictions. The crossover is pretty funny though. Attaching poo poo to the Iraq prognostication to hold it up with many, many insanities
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sebmojo posted:i've always wondered - is this funny because it's wildly inaccurate? it seems about as right as most of the stuff that was coming out at the time, hits some, misses some? It's wildly inaccurate in a uniquely dumbass American way. It's cheerleading the invasion and buying everything the Bush administration was shovelling. By creating a "predictions thread!!!" it was gamifying a war crime. From nearly every angle it was an absurdity.
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Colin Powell holding a printout of the post aloft, showing it to the UN
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Yeah, but the UK has Red Side Story now and we have to wait another three months, so it works out I guess.
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Exordia update: I can't describe in words how much I love this poo poo. I'm gonna have to reread all the posts about it soon and steal theirs. I've highlighted so much! It really hits the spot Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Feb 7, 2024 |
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Feb 7, 2024 22:58
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Started Exordia yesterday, finished it today. Holy gently caress, what a ride. It's like someone shot down Blindsight with nukes and it crashed into The Good Place. One of those books that leaves me staring around in confusion going "what the gently caress can I possibly follow that up with?" It's so good. And unlike Baru it didn't emotionally flense me, which I was not expecting. Also, I wasn't expecting someone to straight up quote the Wizard's Oath halfway through the book, but I do appreciate it. I was wondering when I encountered "claudication" early on, it's not a commonly used word. Nor I was expecting it to be funny; yeah, a lot of it's pretty bleak, but there are also some places where I just lost it like the special forces guy mournfully asking if he should feed a mouse to the captive black hole. cptn_dr posted:Eight perspectives, all coming together to coherently illustrate a fractally beautiful whole? Oh! Exordia is shaped like a khai! Ambush-predator-rear end novel. I didn't even notice that, and now I want to go back and see if I can match up viewpoint characters to the roles of specific heads. Also, it has so much stuff in it, both concepts and events, and slingshots around so many different subgenres as it leaps between viewpoints and climaxes, that it feels like you could take any given chapter and pull it out of the book and decompress and expand it into an entire book of its own. Which means that Exordia is, itself, self-similar, and as you zoom in it contains smaller reflections of itself. ToxicFrog fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Feb 7, 2024 |
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ToxicFrog posted:I didn't even notice that, and now I want to go back and see if I can match up viewpoint characters to the roles of specific heads. RoboCicero posted:
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Done with Exordia. I knew nothing about it aside from people itt liking it and it was by the Baru Cormorant guy. I have mixed feelings. The book is way too long for the story its telling. The opening with Anna and Ssrin palling around was excellent. I wanted that book. This is more of a personal hangup, but I'm so sick of reading about the military (and their guns, and their bombs), even under a less than flattering lens. The middle section with all the physics discussion seemed like 2/3 of it could have been cut. The book does pick back up in Part 4, but it loses the path a bit again toward the end. The "real plan" for the ship was signalled well, but the pages of fighter pilot chatter and nuclear arsenal talk brought it down for me. I wasn't into the sequel crumbs either. I wanted this to be a standalone. The book was already so long. I don't want to come across as too negative, because I did like the underlying ideas presented. I also love a villain who is so cartoonishly over the top with his dickishness. If you enjoy descriptive technical accuracy, then go for it. If that's not really your bag (and it's not mine), but are interested in the ideas Exordia presents, I highly recommend reading the short story Anna Saves Them All. (Don't read if you plan to read Exordia.) https://www.shimmerzine.com/anna-saves-them-all-by-seth-dickinson/
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It's long, but for me it was one of those books like Cyteen that has lots of pages and lots of heavy content but goes down real smooth.
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robert jackson bennett's new book (first in a series) is out richard swan's as well
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tildes posted:I read The Peace War yesterday, which was my first intro to Vernor Vinge. It was good enough that it got me to pick up and start A Fire Upon the Deep, and so far I am a huge fan. I think I’ll probably finish this series first, then maybe do the second book in the peace war universe, but what other books of his would y’all recommend? branedotorg posted:Rainbows End and The Snow Queen This is a good reminder; I haven't read Snow Queen in a long time but two decades ago I thought it was really underrated and since then it seems like it's just slipped further into obscurity. Back then I really disliked the sequel Summer Queen because I was mad about how it treated the male lead from Snow Queen in what struck me at the time as a mean-spirited way that probably channeled the author's own marital situation, but perhaps I'd think differently as an older and hopefully wiser person.
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Been reading The Night-Bird's Feather by Jenna Moran, after seeing it recommended many times in this thread (but possibly just by the one person?) It's a really beautiful, strange, unique book. I'm struggling to describe what makes it special since a lot of the tags one could assign to it (it's Ghibli-esque, it has a fairy tale style, it deals with mental health) are technically accurate but don't really get to the heart of its appeal. All I can say is I love to read a writer whose prose could never have been written by anyone else, and Moran is definitely that. Also that some plot points in the first chapter are uncannily similar to The Boy and the Heron despite it being released a couple years earlier.
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Sailor Viy posted:Been reading The Night-Bird's Feather by Jenna Moran, after seeing it recommended many times in this thread (but possibly just by the one person?) There are dozens of us! Dozens!
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Yes, I've been raving about Jenna for years
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Sailor Viy posted:Been reading The Night-Bird's Feather by Jenna Moran, after seeing it recommended many times in this thread (but possibly just by the one person?) ALL RIGHT, fine, I'm ordering a copy!
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Doktor Avalanche posted:robert jackson bennett's new book (first in a series) is out oh poo poo, nice. i should really get around to finishing the foundry trilogy
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ToxicFrog posted:Holy gently caress, what a ride. It's like someone shot down Blindsight with nukes and it crashed into The Good Place. Now that's a jacket quote.
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Sailor Viy posted:Been reading The Night-Bird's Feather by Jenna Moran, after seeing it recommended many times in this thread (but possibly just by the one person?) It's a really beautiful, strange, unique book. I'm struggling to describe what makes it special since a lot of the tags one could assign to it (it's Ghibli-esque, it has a fairy tale style, it deals with mental health) are technically accurate but don't really get to the heart of its appeal. All I can say is I love to read a writer whose prose could never have been written by anyone else, and Moran is definitely that. This whole post is dead-on. That last line is especially true, and I love her books dearly for it. I tend to describe her RPG career as being the Galapagos Islands of RPG design: just off in her own space where nobody else is even thinking of working, doing unspeakably beautiful and weird things without any competitors. Her novels are not as utterly unique as the RPGs, you can actually draw reasonable comparisons to other things as you've described, but once you've read her prose you'll recognize it anywhere.
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Tokelau All Star posted:If that's not really your bag (and it's not mine), but are interested in the ideas Exordia presents, I highly recommend reading the short story Anna Saves Them All. (Don't read if you plan to read Exordia.) Is there any link between this and Exordia because they seem very similar?
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PriorMarcus posted:Is there any link between this and Exordia because they seem very similar?
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mystes posted:Sometimes authors take ideas they used in short stories and make them into novels
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PriorMarcus posted:Is there any link between this and Exordia because they seem very similar? Yeah they explain it in this interview from Jan 21 https://www.grimdarkmagazine.com/an-interview-with-seth-dickinson/ quote:GdM] Like The Traitor Baru Cormorant, your book Exordia was a short story before it became a novel. In this case, Anna Saves Them All.
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Lex Talionis posted:The other suggestions have been good but you really can't go wrong with Vernor Vinge. Except for Children of the Sky, one of those sequels that brings back all the wrong things from the cool book it's a sequel to. 50% a joke - i really liked her Queen series and think it should get more attention, she took that very vague Hans Christian Anderson inspiration and built a really strange and compelling world with it - although i never really enjoyed Psion and Catspaw Doktor Avalanche posted:robert jackson bennett's new book (first in a series) is out the Swan one i had on preorder but thanks for the heads up on RJB, I found Foundryside a bit juvenile and disappointing after City of Stairs so hadn't been following but fantasy buddy cop is a genre I'm almost guaranteed to but
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Authority (Southern Reach #2) by Jeff VanderMeer - $3.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GET18P2/ Fiasco by Stanislaw Lem - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008R2J70M/ Just Over the Horizon (Short Fiction #1) by Greg Bear - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0155UBSVE/
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Like 20 percent through Exordia and it's like Bakker but irl. Without the rapey crap so far! Whether being like Bakker is an insult or compliment I'll leave to your discretion.
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Fall; or, Dodge in Hell by Neal Stephenson - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071X3ZWDN/ Far Thoughts and Pale Gods (Short Fiction #2) by Greg Bear - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0155UBSDC/ Beyond the Farthest Suns (Short Fiction #3) by Greg Bear - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0155UBSSC/ The World Jones Made by Philip K Dick - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005LVR01A/
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Finally finished Exordia(I blame listening to the Audiobook while driving/working out) and it was excellent. Looking into some lighter fare I went to see what I could use an Audible credit on. Foreign covers just hit harder. Plus, I like the pew-pew for Barrayan.
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Close to wrapping up Exordia, and I googled the Qandils to see what was up with the setting, where I found a review for the mountains. 4 stars. "No friends in the world only mountain" Highlight of my day so far.
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City of Last Chances was loving excellent, so thanks to whoever recommended it in the thread.
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