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Lid posted:https://twitter.com/femalelroom/status/1758207555992424886?s=46 While I am not thrilled to hear more stories of sexual assault, the thought that these cracks in the dam are the ones at the beginning of a full collapse and flood is one that has me going  gently caress you, Vince
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coconono posted:that was who I figured was the one who got the depush despite having being pretty entertaining. Shoutout to Jackie Gayda. People far more obsessive went through all the details and Gayda isn't the one that story is about. She's another one used and abusedvu the rapist Vince McMahon.
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TheKingslayer posted:Unless you're bringing me true crime with all the gravitas of Robert Stack I don't want it. unless it’s “Swindled” I don’t listen to true crime podcasts. the host would likely do an incredible job with this one.
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I am positive I recall quotes from the sheets or potentially this very forum at the time that multiple women had heat for dating midcard or indy guys, and Gaeda and Haas were specifically mentioned. Never thought it was related to Vince specifically, but the women seemed basically reserved for the main eventers with Randy and Batista being standouts in that behavior
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I hope this reignites Speaking Out. The indies are rife with this behavior and promoters covering it up.
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King Bahamut posted:I am positive I recall quotes from the sheets or potentially this very forum at the time that multiple women had heat for dating midcard or indy guys, and Gaeda and Haas were specifically mentioned. Never thought it was related to Vince specifically, but the women seemed basically reserved for the main eventers with Randy and Batista being standouts in that behavior Melina/morrison/batista were another story, that people thought a main eventer like Batista deserved a lady like Melina and not Johnny nitro The locker room was gross and I hope it is not like that anymore
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rotinaj posted:Melina/morrison/batista were another story, that people thought a main eventer like Batista deserved a lady like Melina and not Johnny nitro It is 100% like that
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Didn't Rusev and Lana get punished for getting married?
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MJeff posted:Didn't Rusev and Lana get punished for getting married? That incident feels like one of the things non-wrestling people wouldn't understand. "Yeah these two people were put in storylines to try and ruin their real life relationship because people in power thought Lana was too hot for Rusev. Then when they real life got married they were further punished." "Ok but wrestling is fake right? Actors are in relationships on screen all the time..."
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MJeff posted:Didn't Rusev and Lana get punished for getting married? I think it was specifically for publicizing it which is particularly nuts.
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rotinaj posted:Melina/morrison/batista were another story, that people thought a main eventer like Batista deserved a lady like Melina and not Johnny nitro That's apparently how a lot of wrestling locker rooms have been over the years, sadly. I vaguely remember hearing about how some promoters used to keep women wrestlers on staff, not because they were great wrestlers or big money draws, but because they wanted to have some women around for "the boys", so they wouldn't potentially get into trouble going to bars and picking up local women after the show. Wrestling's been a scummy business for a very long time.
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King Bahamut posted:I am positive I recall quotes from the sheets or potentially this very forum at the time that multiple women had heat for dating midcard or indy guys, and Gaeda and Haas were specifically mentioned. Never thought it was related to Vince specifically, but the women seemed basically reserved for the main eventers with Randy and Batista being standouts in that behavior Remembering the part Eve Torres played in the Zack Ryder/John Cena brass ring travesty.
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https://twitter.com/ThePrinceMagus/status/1758287227682214113 Unsurprising but it's good that so much is coming out. The story isn't dying.
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TheKingslayer posted:That incident feels like one of the things non-wrestling people wouldn't understand. I recall stories about Dusty getting really pissed off at Baby Doll back in the day for dating/marrying Sam Houston instead of someone higher up the card.
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CombineThresher posted:I recall stories about Dusty getting really pissed off at Baby Doll back in the day for dating/marrying Sam Houston instead of someone higher up the card. Also didn't help that Sam Houston was a major gently caress up too I mean with his upbringing he never stood a chance
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stab posted:Also didn't help that Sam Houston was a major gently caress up too That doesn't really have any bearing on "Dusty got mad at Baby Doll for marrying a midcarder", though?
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Sydney Bottocks posted:That doesn't really have any bearing on "Dusty got mad at Baby Doll for marrying a midcarder", though? Dusty got mad for her marrying a drunk maybe?
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stab posted:Dusty got mad for her marrying a drunk maybe? A drunk in 1970's wrestling?
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stab posted:Dusty got mad for her marrying a drunk maybe? Given the frankly staggering amount of drunks and drug addicts that came through the NWA during Dusty's reign in the 1980s, I'm going to have to guess that he didn't give two shits about anyone's extracurricular activities. At the time, Baby Doll was in main event programs with Tully and Dusty (and later Flair), so he was likely pissed that not only did she get married (which, if it got out, made it harder to push her in kayfabe as the ultimate object of desire like Dusty had been doing), but that she didn't even marry a top-level guy (that he could have worked a program with where they "stole" BD). He likely viewed it as the rasslin' equivalent of marrying beneath her station. Houston's personal life and related fuckups probably never even entered into it.
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It's not like I needed more ammo to say Dusty sucked poo poo but it's nice to know.
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TheKingslayer posted:It's not like I needed more ammo to say Dusty sucked eggs but it's nice to know.
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TheKingslayer posted:It's not like I needed more ammo to say Dusty sucked poo poo but it's nice to know.
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In the 90s and 2000s the "IWC" consensus was Flair ruled and Dusty sucked. Then Cody rehabbed Dusty when we should have continued hating him and just started hating Flair too.
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Rene put up clips of multiple women talking about their experiences: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVibEOVQYII
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Sydney Bottocks posted:That's apparently how a lot of wrestling locker rooms have been over the years, sadly. I vaguely remember hearing about how some promoters used to keep women wrestlers on staff, not because they were great wrestlers or big money draws, but because they wanted to have some women around for "the boys", so they wouldn't potentially get into trouble going to bars and picking up local women after the show. Wrestling's been a scummy business for a very long time. Remember when multiple allegations came out that Moolah was straight up pimping her trainees out, while working for WWF, and nothing came of it?
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MassRafTer posted:A good summation of the board's actions and what we know about what they knew surrounding Vince's return: With any luck, the SEC is going to rip into this company from top to bottom, but that's never a quick process. Plenty more Wrestlemania Moments to bank before Paul and co are barred from serving as directors ever again.
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Short update from Fightful, most interesting bits are a longtime employee saying the company looked at Johnny Ace as the fall guy andquote:We’ve spoken to one former talent who has indicated that they’re weighing the options of whether to tell their story via the media, or whether or not they wanted to take legal action. We will not provide their identity unless they approve of such. https://www.patreon.com/posts/more-details-wwe-98626705
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emjayo posted:With any luck, the SEC is going to rip into this company from top to bottom, but that's never a quick process. Plenty more Wrestlemania Moments to bank before Paul and co are barred from serving as directors ever again. anyone with legal knowledge know the process of this lawsuit + the timeframe? guessing it's gonna be multiple years?
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MassRafTer posted:Short update from Fightful, most interesting bits are a longtime employee saying the company looked at Johnny Ace as the fall guy and They've always made sure the narrative was Johnny Ace was the "party guy" so this absolutely tracks with WWE crisis management.
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MassRafTer posted:I think it was specifically for publicizing it which is particularly nuts. I went and refreshed myself on the timeline. He was feuding with Dolph and Lana and together with Summer Rae in storyline. He got engaged to Lana in reality and they sent engagement photos to the locker room. Somehow they ended up at TMZ. Vince accused them of intentionally torpedoing the storyline and they both got buried forever, with Rusev going from heavily protected IC title contender to complete joke complete with Vince-speak emasculating promos from Summer. He asked for his release in 2017 and they didn't grant it. I do remember there being stuff in the Observer about how Vince didn't think they should be together because she's really hot and he's a big hairy Bulgarian dude. And then when he did finally get released and jump to AEW, they booked Lana to go through tables on every show for weeks and weeks.
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Eat This Glob posted:can a president...pardon companies for federal financial crimes and other malfeasance? its a calvinball democracy.
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Eat This Glob posted:can a president...pardon companies for federal financial crimes and other malfeasance?
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Luigi Thirty posted:I went and refreshed myself on the timeline. He was feuding with Dolph and Lana and together with Summer Rae in storyline. He got engaged to Lana in reality and they sent engagement photos to the locker room. Somehow they ended up at TMZ. Vince accused them of intentionally torpedoing the storyline and they both got buried forever, with Rusev going from heavily protected IC title contender to complete joke complete with Vince-speak emasculating promos from Summer. He asked for his release in 2017 and they didn't grant it. I do remember there being stuff in the Observer about how Vince didn't think they should be together because she's really hot and he's a big hairy Bulgarian dude. It's kind of insane you have to go back like, "Ok which of the three Rusev cuckold storylines did this happen in...?"
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