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Feb 17, 2024 21:31
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You heard it first here folks, people like books where they relate to the characters
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Feb 17, 2024 21:34
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Finished The Tyrant Baru Cormorant, I thought it was the last book in the series, so I was really surprised by that last chapter. That's some wild stuff.
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Feb 17, 2024 21:40
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mystes posted:You heard it first here folks, people like books where they relate to the characters And if that wasn't bad enough, there appear to be people who relate to different characters than I do. What scandal.
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Feb 17, 2024 21:42
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Cardiac posted:Because people would have to face up to that their bad decisions and their consequences is on them. except no one has ever made a decision
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Feb 17, 2024 22:52
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I flat out have no real idea what Cardiac is even getting at, note my not having read Blindsight, can you explain?
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Feb 17, 2024 23:36
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silvergoose posted:I flat out have no real idea what Cardiac is even getting at, note my not having read Blindsight, can you explain? Taken straight from the wiki entry on Blindsight: Siri Keeton is the narrator and protagonist. Debilitating brain surgery for medical purposes has cut him off from his own emotional life and made him a talented "synthesist", adept at reading others' intentions impartially with the aid of cybernetics. Cardiac is suggesting that all goons are dumb and like dumb books as a result.
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Feb 17, 2024 23:51
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There's pretty much no good biology in science fiction because the ideas are absolute dogshit, just the shallowest nonsense. Like it's fine when it gets handwaved as technobabble but when it's supposed to be Big Ideas Central To Your Plot, it needs to not fall apart with the most cursory "well what are the consequences of this and would they break my universe".
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Feb 17, 2024 23:55
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RDM posted:There's pretty much no good biology in science fiction because the ideas are absolute dogshit, just the shallowest nonsense. Like it's fine when it gets handwaved as technobabble but when it's supposed to be Big Ideas Central To Your Plot, it needs to not fall apart with the most cursory "well what are the consequences of this and would they break my universe". How's, um, Octavia Butler's stuff? I ended up kinda not liking Dawn *because* of the biology stuff, but I couldn't tell if it was plausible or not.
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Feb 18, 2024 00:09
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RDM posted:There's pretty much no good biology in science fiction because the ideas are absolute dogshit, just the shallowest nonsense. Like it's fine when it gets handwaved as technobabble but when it's supposed to be Big Ideas Central To Your Plot, it needs to not fall apart with the most cursory "well what are the consequences of this and would they break my universe". Dune has exceptional biology, particularly the practice of prana...prana...uh what's the next word?
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Feb 18, 2024 01:01
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Having precise control over all of ones nerves and muscles like the Bene Gesserit do does sound cool. It is a bit nuts how little modern science knows about muscles. We don't even know if muscle knots or "myofacial trigger points" actually exist as tiny tight bands of muscle fiber the way many describe, or if its all an illusion. There's arguments between rheumatologists and physical therapists about their existence. The weird biology stuff in Dune doesn't annoy me that much though cause its basically magic.
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Feb 18, 2024 01:20
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General Battuta posted:Dune has exceptional biology, particularly the practice of prana...prana...uh what's the next word? Bindu. Been dune what? Nobody knows.
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Feb 18, 2024 01:39
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Binduin your mom!!!
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Feb 18, 2024 01:56
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General Battuta posted:Binduin your mom!!! Ah, someone’s read Heretics of Dune I see.
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Feb 18, 2024 02:32
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y'all can come back and talk poo poo after you learn how to arouse the 51 excitation points and master the 300 steps.
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Feb 18, 2024 02:38
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uber_stoat posted:y'all can come back and talk poo poo after you learn how to arouse the 51 excitation points and master the 300 steps. Created, The Destroyer posted:So Chiun had been right. Some women could sense a man’s control of his body. They could be attracted by what he called the hia chu charm, knowing within that the man had such perfect timing and rhythm and highly developed senses that he could arouse them every time.
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Feb 18, 2024 03:09
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Dune Encyclopedia posted:Patterning their method after a sexual technique mentioned in some of their earliest historical records, the Fremen learned to separate the male orgasm from ejaculation. At the time they reached puberty, boys were given detailed instruction on the technique and were not considered to have entered into true adulthood before mastering it, whatever their other accomplishments. A young man who proved incapable of learning such control was seen as a danger not only to himself (since unnecessary ejaculations were a waste of precious water) but to his partners. Not by Herbert himself, but I'm sure he nodded in agreement.
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Feb 18, 2024 04:04
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FPyat posted:Not by Herbert himself, but I'm sure he nodded in agreement. was this one of the KJA ones?
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Feb 18, 2024 04:32
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Anderson and Brian disowned the Encyclopedia, since it was basically fanfiction, as opposed to their continuation of Herbert's intended story.
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Feb 18, 2024 05:14
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FPyat posted:Anderson and Brian['s] ... continuation of Herbert's intended story. "Ultraspice"
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Feb 18, 2024 05:20
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Don't worry, they have a safe full of papers.
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Feb 18, 2024 05:53
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Dune Encyclopedia was written by a bunch of people, so you get the interesting entries, the boring entries and of course a few sex weirdo entries
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Feb 18, 2024 08:41
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silvergoose posted:I flat out have no real idea what Cardiac is even getting at, note my not having read Blindsight, can you explain? ulmont posted:Taken straight from the wiki entry on Blindsight: I think more precisely, many of the human characters in Blindsight are coded as being non-neurotypical in some way, and Siri specifically is heavily coded (though not explicitly described) as autistic.
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Feb 18, 2024 12:19
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Thanks! In other news, I'm nearly 200 pages into Exordia, and I guess I'm coming up one of these fabled climaxes that could end a trilogy, it's good stuff.
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Feb 18, 2024 13:02
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I finished Exordia, and for some reason the "Anna" song from Device 6 popped into my head. I feel like it would make a good theme song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oYY-KkoDAk I'll post more when I've had time to process.
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Feb 18, 2024 13:20
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I'm pretty sure I'm Agent Cormac (McCarthy) and and
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Feb 18, 2024 13:35
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Good lord the setting in baru is depressing. I think she's going to die (or worse) by the end of the trilogy.
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Feb 18, 2024 14:38
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Yaoi Gagarin posted:Good lord the setting in baru is depressing. I think she's going to die (or worse) by the end of the trilogy. Well, good news then - it's not a trilogy.
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Feb 18, 2024 15:14
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World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War by Max Brooks - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JMKQX0/
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Feb 18, 2024 17:41
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I finally picked up the first Imaro collection by Saunders. I'm only a bit past the first section of it, and these are so good. This is what I wanted, this speaks to me on a level I can't explain. It's to the point that when something good is happening to Imaro, I begin to shed tears of happiness for him. Holy poo poo this is amazing.
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Feb 18, 2024 18:06
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Fivemarks posted:I finally picked up the first Imaro collection by Saunders. I'm only a bit past the first section of it, and these are so good. This is what I wanted, this speaks to me on a level I can't explain. It's to the point that when something good is happening to Imaro, I begin to shed tears of happiness for him. Holy poo poo this is amazing. 
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Feb 18, 2024 18:07
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FPyat posted:Not by Herbert himself, but I'm sure he nodded in agreement. Fremen gooners jack without rhythym
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Feb 18, 2024 19:42
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zoux posted:Fremen gooners jack without rhythym Children of Goon
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Feb 18, 2024 20:51
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Goon without rhythm, it won't eject the worm.
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Feb 18, 2024 22:49
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I'm a bit over halfway through Exordia and maybe I should have expected but I really did not expect a direct reference to Diane Duane's Young Wizards oath, that took me the hell back in time, though I then found an interview where it was cited as an inspiration
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Feb 19, 2024 06:30
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silvergoose posted:I'm a bit over halfway through Exordia and maybe I should have expected but I really did not expect a direct reference to Diane Duane's Young Wizards oath, that took me the hell back in time, though I then found an interview where it was cited as an inspiration Oh do tell, I've only read the Cat Wizards out of that series.
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Feb 19, 2024 07:29
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mllaneza posted:Oh do tell, I've only read the Cat Wizards out of that series. You should at least read So You Want to Be A Wizard. It's very much of its age level, but it's...solid, still. The wizard's oath is what I meant. I do adore Book of Night with Moon, though, just the whole cats playing a game all the time thing tickled me a lot as a kid.
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Feb 19, 2024 13:27
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RDM posted:There's pretty much no good biology in science fiction because the ideas are absolute dogshit, just the shallowest nonsense. Like it's fine when it gets handwaved as technobabble but when it's supposed to be Big Ideas Central To Your Plot, it needs to not fall apart with the most cursory "well what are the consequences of this and would they break my universe". Looks like someone didnt see scavengers reign! its still falls apart but its amazing.
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Feb 19, 2024 14:45
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mllaneza posted:Oh do tell, I've only read the Cat Wizards out of that series. In that case you're probably more familiar with the saurian recension of the Oath, which starts "The Fire is at the heart, and the Fire is the heart; for its sake, all fires whatever are sacred to me." (The feline version, while not recounted in full, is apparently quite similar and likewise phrases things in terms of fire, warmth, and light.) The version in So You Want To Be A Wizard, however, starts with "In Life's name, and for Life's sake, I vow that I will use the Art that is Its gift in Life's service alone", and it is this version that Erik quotes in Exordia. I also appreciated the use of "claudication" much earlier in the book; it's not a widely used word in general, and Duane is the only other author I've seen to use it in the temporospatial sense rather than the medical one.
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Feb 19, 2024 16:48
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This is interesting. I’ve seen other authors criticized in the past for cribbing sentences and sentence structure from earlier books but surprising to see it happened with one of the biggest names.
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