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Flying Zamboni posted:If you want to see an older movie that's actively commenting on that kind of stuff the original Cat People from the 40's is great. She Devil comments on it too but the comment is an incredibly firm “yes this is normal and good”. After she stops doing what the doctors tell her to do they decide to kill her so fast.
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One of the doctors has a monologue where he flat out says “we tried to save a human life but ended up creating something inhuman”. It’s not even subtext it’s flat out text that a woman who won’t do as a man tells her and instead seeks to advance her own interests is an animal that must be put down. Literally a man who shot his wife is presented as the victim of feminine trickery.
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The movie ends with our two hero doctors who are like 80% sure their patient killed someone but they have no proof or any evidence at all so they fill her room with carbon monoxide until she passes out and then perform brain surgery on her that gives her Tuberculosis. The final line of the movie is “she was so beautiful” spoken by one of the doctors who just did that to her.
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They were right to do so. She was rabid
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Gripweed posted:lol it’s a plot point that the pineal gland has no known function. People in the past were so stupid. Pineal gland poo poo is basically an only recently mostly forgotten version of the ' you only use 10% of your brain' meme that writers latched onto as a plot device. IIRC Heroes implies Sylar steals powers by taking the pineal gland.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Pineal gland poo poo is basically an only recently mostly forgotten version of the ' you only use 10% of your brain' meme that writers latched onto as a plot device. IIRC Heroes implies Sylar steals powers by taking the pineal gland. I looked it up, apparently they discovered it produced melatonin in 1958. She Devil came out in 1957
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Gripweed posted:Watching She Devil. Movies from the 50s are wild. The patient is a young unmarried woman and the doctor is a man in a position of authority over so I guess he’s basically her dad? Or, like, owns her a little bit? The number of science fiction and horror films where the professor/doctor's assistant is his daughter is uncountable.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The number of science fiction and horror films where the professor/doctor's assistant is his daughter is uncountable. Oh yeah, but in this case she’s not his daughter. He just treats her like she is and the universe accepts that because she’s a woman and he’s a man.
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To the point where the Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter was a bit of a trope for a while, though sometimes Beautiful Fiance, basically an excuse to have a young attractive woman in a role where she can be in distress probably. Doctor Who has done almost every imaginable permutation of that over the years.
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Now I’m watching Footloose. Holy poo poo is this the origin of angry dance?
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King Hu is the great pioneer of angry dance.
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Just saw Vertigo. Man, I almost wish that the film hadn't ended the way it did despite how incredible it was. I wanted hours of seeing their increasingly toxic and deranged relationship breakdown.
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Gaius Marius posted:Just saw Vertigo. Man, I almost wish that the film hadn't ended the way it did despite how incredible it was. I wanted hours of seeing their increasingly toxic and deranged relationship breakdown. I was fine with it except the last ten seconds. It felt like Hitchcock didn’t know where to take it and just wrote “and then she jumps out the window” to not have to think about it anymore
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There wasn't anyway that relationship didn't end with one or both of them dead.
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Steve Yun posted:I was fine with it except the last ten seconds. It felt like Hitchcock didn’t know where to take it and just wrote “and then she jumps out the window” to not have to think about it anymore In North By Northweast the climax is weirder than you could imagine He saves her offscreen they appear on a train and they Hayes Code gently caress
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Gaius Marius posted:Just saw Vertigo. Man, I almost wish that the film hadn't ended the way it did despite how incredible it was. I wanted hours of seeing their increasingly toxic and deranged relationship breakdown. Steve Yun posted:I was fine with it except the last ten seconds. It felt like Hitchcock didn’t know where to take it and just wrote “and then she jumps out the window” to not have to think about it anymore The Peccadillo posted:In North By Northweast the climax is weirder than you could imagine
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Wonder if they're still doing a Vertigo remake with Robert Downey Jr, written by the Peaky Blinders creator. No thanks lol.
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Wait a minute. Wait one minute. The town in Footloose is a super small, super rural, super religious town. But their high school has a men’s gymnastics team?
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We used to be a real country
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Gripweed posted:Wait a minute. Wait one minute. The town in Footloose is a super small, super rural, super religious town. But their high school has a men’s gymnastics team? Sublimated desire (for dance)
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What's up with the 80s and movies about apocolyptic futures where we have reverted to cave men and are HORNY. Just watched Hell Comes to Frogtown, which was pretty eh but had surprisingly well done frog costumes and sets - and it autoplayed into yet another film of that genre, America 3000. The former survives on Rodney Piper being charismatic enough that you're like "yeah, I suppose everyone would want to gently caress him". The later has the main character narrating the film in what feels like a post-shoot "poo poo we have to make this make some sense" kind of stupidity. Sucks, but again, setting and costumes aren't shabby. Incredible BIG hair in both.
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People old enough to read new wave sci-fi as kids were finally old enough to direct
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I hope you get your wish but it’s monkey pawed and it’s all alien tentacle poo poo
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CelticPredator posted:I hope you get your wish but it’s monkey pawed and it’s all alien tentacle poo poo Then what’s the monkey paw part?
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Gripweed posted:They really need to bring back horny sci fi welcome to the Species (1995) Cinematic Universe
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Gripweed posted:Then what’s the monkey paw part?
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Jay Rust posted:I don’t trust sci-fi to be ethically horny. Tell me you've read Heinlein without telling me you've read Heinlein.
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I'm backing The Crime is Mine if you can find it with subtitles or have a ~B2 (maybe B1) understanding of French. Well acted. Over the top but in a nice way: just enough to take the edge off the serious nature of the setup. Also the two leads look just so, so cute in the period clothes and courtroom outfits.
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Why was San Francisco such a filming hotspot in the 70s? Dirty Harry, The Conversation, Play Misty For Me, etc
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Bright Bart posted:I'm backing The Crime is Mine if you can find it with subtitles or have a ~B2 (maybe B1) understanding of French. Yeah, I saw it somewhat by default and it was a decent comedy. You can instantly tell it's an adaptation of a classic vaudeville play but if it ain't broken, etc.
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You gotta go back to the sixties really. Hitchcock fell in love with the city and filmed there extensively. Bullitt gets filmed there and revolutionizes the car chase and basically creates the first moder police procedural film. And then American Zoetrope was headquartered there.
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Oh yeah, I should have remembered the Hitchcocks. Even The Birds, which is North Bay.
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YaketySass posted:Yeah, I saw it somewhat by default and it was a decent comedy. You can instantly tell it's an adaptation of a classic vaudeville play but if it ain't broken, etc. I think that if we had more of these in this style (whether period or not) in the past few years then perhaps it wouldn't be getting the same superlative praise. But it is quite well made and very fun. Another quirky period comedy set in Europe (well, England anyways) is Wicked Little Letters. That's if it ever finally comes out. But when it started getting broader reviews by more critics the average fell quite a bit from 'This looks very good' to 'Maybe I'll enjoy it, I'll play the first little bit and see'.
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