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The Artificial Kid posted:That’s a myth being perpetuated by Testinuke stans on Twitter. They all read the same Osint analysis three years ago that conflated an implosion sphere with a human ball. In reality the CEP of a re-entry vehicle means the nuke likely won’t get within thirty metres of your scrotum. but did you consider the CBT of a re-entry vehicle
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Barrel Cactaur posted:Of course, the deployment such a weapon violates a major nuclear treaty. The US is expected to make a firm plan known, especially because the device has not been deployed yet. It's even worse than that, it hasn't even been developed yet. It's something Putin wants, but I doubt they can even afford to make the loving thing. This whole thing is a wet fart that Turner threw out for reasons. Maybe it was deflection for Trump's legal troubles, but there was a reason why most of the other members of the House Intel committee weren't bothered by it.
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Grouchio posted:Can someone explain to me all the media fuss about the russian EMP satellite? I know turner leaked the alert early and that the satellite is utilized to wipe out many spaceborne satellites - is this anything new? Anything to look out for - or is this another redundant deterrent to bolster rus prestige? Republican congressman was just driving hype to derail a bill he didn't like. It worked.
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Byzantine posted:but did you consider the CBT of a re-entry vehicle sounding rods from God
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Craig K posted:its set to launch a tactical emp strike directly at your balls Like everyone's balls or his specifically?
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I am so stoked about the new WI legislative maps. Are there any goons in the state who can verify how awesome this news really is? Any chance of a Dem trifecta like MN?
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Ms Adequate posted:With the usual modern caveat that we're on the border of the Cool Zone and conventional wisdom feels a lot less reliable than it used to: Cataclysmic. The GOP is already hugely behind on fundraising - your vague recollection is correct - and I think at least some part of their post-2016 election struggles have to be laid at the door of their financial woes. Combined with the white-hot hatred so many have for Trump and the continuing anger over them killing Roe which all keeps Dems seriously fired up, and the apparent disdain for Trump that much of the billionaire class has developed, losing any of their limited financial resources this year is going to be desperately painful for the GOP. The interesting thing here is that Republicans won big the following year in 1994 and also won the House and finally captured the Senate in 2014. Of course, these were off-year elections and Democrats have been doing very well in those now.
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VorpalBunny posted:I am so stoked about the new WI legislative maps. Are there any goons in the state who can verify how awesome this news really is? Any chance of a Dem trifecta like MN? It is still a lean-Republican map, but Wisconsin was the most gerrymandered state in the country so it is a big improvement. Republicans won 2/3 of the seats in both houses even though Democrats won the popular vote. The new maps are estimated to be a 1-seat Democratic majority in the state senate and a small Republican majority in the state House based on the 2020 election results. Unfortunately, New York's commission revealed their initial map and it is much more Republican-leaning than expected. Republicans lost 2 safe seats, but they could have lost up to 9. Not clear what the state legislature is going to do with it.
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small butter posted:The interesting thing here is that Republicans won big the following year in 1994 and also won the House and finally captured the Senate in 2014. Of course, these were off-year elections and Democrats have been doing very well in those now. How much of that RNC fundraising shortfall is made up by dark money superPACs with zero visibility into? Seems like comparing current political money numbers to pre-Citizens United numbers is an excercise in futility.
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I really don't understand why Democrats insist on fighting "fair" when Republicans are completely shameless about gerrymandering. The WI map also could have been more D leaning if they wanted. Even Robin Vos is counting it as something of a win since it's basically the most R leaning map that was under consideration. Ideally gerrymandering would be banned altogther by a constitutional amendment, but since that's never going to happen why not fight fire with fire?
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L. Ron DeSantis posted:I really don't understand why Democrats insist on fighting "fair" when Republicans are completely shameless about gerrymandering. The WI map also could have been more D leaning if they wanted. Even Robin Vos is counting it as something of a win since it's basically the most R leaning map that was under consideration. Ideally gerrymandering would be banned altogther by a constitutional amendment, but since that's never going to happen why not fight fire with fire? This is just asking "Why Are Democrats?"- their whole deal is a slavish, self-immolating commitment to imagined Sorkin-ite ideals that were never actually the bipartisan consensus.
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Failed Imagineer posted:This is just asking "Why Are Democrats?"- their whole deal is a slavish, self-immolating commitment to imagined Sorkin-ite ideals that were never actually the bipartisan consensus. Not really. I don't like the idea of gerrymandering even if the other side does it and a lot of Democrats are this way. If a Democrat supports or doesn't support gerrymandering to equalize the electoral playing field, I understand either way. You're basically asking that a district in NY be made less democratic because a district in WI is also less democratic even though these are two different sets of people that have nothing to do with one another. I lean towards doing our own gerrymandering but I understand if others do not.
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The Alabama Supreme Court has overruled a lower court's decision to toss out a case where a couple sued someone who had accidentally destroyed their frozen embryos for causing "wrongful death" of their children. The court says that since Roe v. Wade has been overturned, that the decision to regulate the definition of "unborn children" falls back to the states and Alabama has a law on the books called "The Wrongful Death of a Minor Act" that defines fertilized embryos outside of the womb as "unborn children" and that they qualify for the same legal protections as other children. quote:Frozen embryos are ‘children,’ Alabama Supreme Court rules in couples’ wrongful death suits https://www.al.com/news/mobile/2024/02/frozen-embryos-are-children-alabama-supreme-court-rules-in-reviving-couples-wrongful-death-suits.html
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it's very troubling, but i can't get past the whole "patient wandered into cryogenic storage and began taking cylinders out of deep freeze". strong jurassic park stealing genetic material vibes
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:it's very troubling, but i can't get past the whole "patient wandered into cryogenic storage and began taking cylinders out of deep freeze". strong jurassic park stealing genetic material vibes That is why the reproductive health center is getting sued. Pretty wild negligence/lax security and the parents definitely should be compensated, but "wrongful death" and making the embryos legally children is going to have some weird effects on Alabama law (and be a precedent that pro-life people will try to set elsewhere).
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A genuinely perplexing situation, all around. One of those things you couldn't easily imagine happening, you'd think a clinic like that would have a modicum of security for that but nope, a too-curious patient walks in and destroys a bunch of frozen embryos just like that. Not murder by any means though!
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That 'wandering patient' was a time-traveller who deliberately destroyed that embryo because it was gonna grow up to be Super-Hitler.
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Ms Adequate posted:That 'wandering patient' was a time-traveller who deliberately destroyed that embryo because it was gonna grow up to be Super-Hitler. They destroyed the embryos of three different sets of parents. Were they all Super-Hitler clones or just three different Super-Hitler level threats?
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So is it legal to keep children frozen in stasis indefinitely
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So if the embryos are children, will the parents face charges for leaving them in a freezer?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They destroyed the embryos of three different sets of parents. Were they all Super-Hitler clones or just three different Super-Hitler level threats? Killing Hitler 2 changed the timeline so they also had to kill Hitlers 3 and 4 before it stuck
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They destroyed the embryos of three different sets of parents. Were they all Super-Hitler clones or just three different Super-Hitler level threats? They couldn't be sure which one was the target because they didn't have time to go through the records and check each cryounit.
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Aztec Galactus posted:So is it legal to keep children frozen in stasis indefinitely Only in Alabama, but technically yes. And, only if they are unborn. Fertilized embryos are now legally considered children, but it only applies to "unborn children" and not children in general under Alabama law. Edit: MixMasterMalaria posted:So if the embryos are children, will the parents face charges for leaving them in a freezer? No, because they were participating in a legal medical procedure that was theoretically going to result in the birth of the unborn children. It wasn't an illegal act of neglect or done with malicious intent. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Feb 19, 2024 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They destroyed the embryos of three different sets of parents. Were they all Super-Hitler clones or just three different Super-Hitler level threats? It's like in Looper, Bruce Willis doesn't know which of those kids is going to grow up into the Rain Man, so he's got to kill all of them.
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haveblue posted:Killing Hitler 2 changed the timeline so they also had to kill Hitlers 3 and 4 before it stuck Actually killing Hitler 2 would've resulted in Stalin 2 taking over most of Europe so they had to remove them, as seen in the documentary Command & Conquer: Red Alert. The third incident was a result of Neo Soviet counteragents attempting to remove Einstein 2 from the timeline.
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The embryo of future BJ Blazkowicz was also destroyed, so it’s kind of a push.
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Youremother posted:A genuinely perplexing situation, all around. One of those things you couldn't easily imagine happening, you'd think a clinic like that would have a modicum of security for that but nope, a too-curious patient walks in and destroys a bunch of frozen embryos just like that. Not murder by any means though! Yeah, it's a weird one. There needs to be something in the judgment, because there's actual legitimate harm to the parents as a result of this (and possibly, depending on why they were doing embryo-storage in the first place, irreparable harm). But, it's not loving murder. 
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VorpalBunny posted:I am so stoked about the new WI legislative maps. Are there any goons in the state who can verify how awesome this news really is? Any chance of a Dem trifecta like MN? Wrong attitude to have. The map is still geared towards Republicans. The Republicans would’ve still won the assembly in 2020 with these maps. These were the compromised maps Evers was trying to pitch to make the Republicans look bad, figuring that they would vote against it like everything else he has pitched. Instead they passed it and dared Evers to veto it and he capitulated. small butter posted:Not really. Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Feb 19, 2024 |
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So let’s say the invitro takes and there are extra embryos. Are Alabama fertility clinics expected to just store them forever?
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Bar Ran Dun posted:So let’s say the invitro takes and there are extra embryos. Are Alabama fertility clinics expected to just store them forever? I am gong to guess the answer is a pretty obvious yes.
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Sundae posted:Yeah, it's a weird one. There needs to be something in the judgment, because there's actual legitimate harm to the parents as a result of this (and possibly, depending on why they were doing embryo-storage in the first place, irreparable harm). But, it's not loving murder. It's not murder. There is no criminal aspect to the case. A wrongful death of a minor suit is a civil action that exists everywhere, not just in Alabama, that allows parents, grandparents, or legal guardians to sue over the death of a minor. This ruling says that because Alabama has a constitutional amendment protecting unborn life "regardless of location" and the wrongful death of a minor act says that it covers any child "including unborn children," then fertilized embryos are covered and eligible for a lawsuit. Nobody is being criminally charged and it does not make embryos outside of the womb eligible for consideration under murder charges.
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also i don’t get the framing of these redistricting fixes as “republican gerrymandering blowing up in their faces”. they got to own Wisconsin for 12 years and will do it again when they’re able to. which’ll probably be sooner rather than later when we’re looking at how 2024 is shaking out
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Bar Ran Dun posted:So let’s say the invitro takes and there are extra embryos. Are Alabama fertility clinics expected to just store them forever? According to an amicus brief filed in opposition to the ruling, yes. quote:Likewise, a ruling in favor of the Appellants would require fertility clinics to store a multitude of embryos in perpetuity at a high cost – regardless of the wishes of the IVF patients. Such a result might render cryopreservation out of reach for many patients, who are unable to afford or unwilling to pay the tens of thousands of dollars for perpetual storage. They have to either store them forever, move them to a commercial storage facility, or move them out of state and then just decide what to do based on the state law of wherever they go (which is the legal equivalent of your mom deciding not to ask you if you smoked weed after you come home from the Phish concert wearing a parka, carrying 4 tubs of Ben & Jerry's, and watching Adult Swim.) https://judicial.alabama.gov/docs/22-0579BriefofAmicusCuriaeAlabamaMedicalAssociationinSupportofAppellees_12-13-2022.pdf Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Feb 19, 2024 |
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I had a thought. Most of us, including me, are mainly worried about the electoral outcome where Trump wins in November. What actually happens if he loses? Even if the GOP has decided “no loving way are we running an 81 year old Trump as our candidate in 2028”, what happens if he decides he does not want to go away and continues to demand to be kingmaker, take all GOP donations to himself etc. After completely knuckling under to him at every turn, do they finally tell him, in a public way, to gently caress off? Or do they continue being the Trump party and suck up to him and just privately hope he dies before 2028?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:According to an amicus brief filed in opposition to the ruling, yes. As someone who is going through IVF right now, we pay every year to store embryos. If this transfer works we will donate the rest of the viable embryos to other couples, the unviable embryos have already been donated for research.
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At some point I'm left wondering if the non-Trump GOP game plan is just "pray he croaks".
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Zwabu posted:I had a thought. Most of us, including me, are mainly worried about the electoral outcome where Trump wins in November. The issue the GOP/The American right have is that they're in a nightmare of their own creation. They cozied up to racist and Christian dominionist post LBJ and in exchange the business wing got lower taxes and deregulation. The play of course to hide the racism to make themselves palatable for the media and squishy middle. Trump than destroyed that dream by putting that wing front and center and they don't know how to give it up. Coupled with suburban moms that are both diversifying and is trying to avoid culture war stuff, they are going to have to give up one prong but they can't if they want to have a chance at power. Giving up the white nationalist vote means losing white males and some rural significance and power that you get disproportionate power with the United States. Give up the business wing and you lose the ability to fund your campaigns and realistically, the Northeast Republicans of keep taxes low but socially don't say anything are dead and buried so what's to be gained. They need someone who can either unite these tribes or come with a new vision (or eat into the Democrats big tent) and that is not easy. The best play probably, is to liberalize on the border (giving up the white nationalists) but maybe getting the Spanish speaking community behind you, with a new business class.
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Zwabu posted:After completely knuckling under to him at every turn, do they finally tell him, in a public way, to gently caress off? Or do they continue being the Trump party and suck up to him and just privately hope he dies before 2028? TBH, it's probably the latter. Or just beg and plead for him to have Don Jr or similar run instead. I don't see any way they could [forcibly] prevent him from running without antagonizing a sizeable portion of GOP voters
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It's not murder. There is no criminal aspect to the case. Wouldn’t a miscarriage fall under this? Can someone get sued for having a miscarriage?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They destroyed the embryos of three different sets of parents. Were they all Super-Hitler clones or just three different Super-Hitler level threats? Just like how the terminator started killing every Sarah Connor out of the phone book, all the time traveler had was the name of the clinic, not the parents' names; they were just being sure.
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