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dr_rat posted:Which brings up the question, if he doesn't win the election and he's not allowed to do business in New York for three years -where all his businesses are based right?- than what wage/income would they be garnishing? Whatever wage/income he's relying on to feed himself and maintain some semblance of his lifestyle after almost all his money goes to debtors. It's not really complicated. One thing to keep in mind, though, is that the court's ultimate goal here is not to destroy him or bankrupt him - it's to ensure that his victims are compensated for his actions. If he finds himself a new source of income that doesn't violate the court ruling, the court is going to make sure that a considerable chunk of that income is going to his victims, but it's not going to go out of its way to make him a pauper. He won't be able to live the ostentatious showy billionaire lifestyle, but he's not going to be living off rice and beans and plain water either.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:They also assumed that anybody carrying on like Trump has been would have the same thing happen to them that happened to Aaron Burr. A dueling society is a well governed society. 
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withak posted:
Can you do this with a normal paycheck? I thought the only way out of garnishment was to take poo poo jobs that paid cash under the table The president is required to be compensated by the Constitution, so I would expect the money is always set aside for that purpose and if he refused to cash his checks they'd just raise the garnishment to 100% and call it a day
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@ the Supreme Court ruling in 2025 that the president can in fact still refuse his federal paycheck if his wages are being garnished in some jurisdiction.
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dr_rat posted:A dueling society is a well governed society. This was the original "good guy with a gun"
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Main Paineframe posted:One thing to keep in mind, though, is that the court's ultimate goal here is not to destroy him or bankrupt him - it's to ensure that his victims are compensated for his actions. If he finds himself a new source of income that doesn't violate the court ruling, the court is going to make sure that a considerable chunk of that income is going to his victims, but it's not going to go out of its way to make him a pauper. He won't be able to live the ostentatious showy billionaire lifestyle, but he's not going to be living off rice and beans and plain water either. This is why i need criminal conviction answers. I want him in jail for years.
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haveblue posted:Can you do this with a normal paycheck? I thought the only way out of garnishment was to take poo poo jobs that paid cash under the table On an extremely related note, when my father's life insurance pays out some time down the road the goon fund is getting a big loving surprise dr_rat posted:A dueling society is a well governed society. The Islamic Shock fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Feb 20, 2024 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:This was the original "good guy with a gun" Good Guy with a Glove.
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Sorry if it's been answered semi-recently but does anyone know how much longer Trump has before he can't appeal and has to just start paying Carroll?
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Sorry if it's been answered semi-recently but does anyone know how much longer Trump has before he can't appeal and has to just start paying Carroll? From what I've been told, thirty days from the day of the verdict.
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The Islamic Shock posted:
He somehow has a reputation as a good businessman despite dozens of bankruptcies, idiotic business decisions like opening casinos that competed either each other, and getting a worse return on his massive inheritance than if he'd literally just let the bank give him the paltry 0.1% interest, so I can only assume he'd somehow maintain his reputation as a strongman despite being the total coward he is Just like how on Monday he's always totally going to testify because only criminals and cowards would plead the fifth, on Tuesday he hides and no-shows, and then on Wednesday yells about how unfair it was they wouldn't let him testify with the big strong words that would totally have exonerated him
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DarkHorse posted:He somehow has a reputation as a good businessman despite dozens of bankruptcies, idiotic business decisions like opening casinos that competed either each other, and getting a worse return on his massive inheritance than if he'd literally just let the bank give him the paltry 0.1% interest, so I can only assume he'd somehow maintain his reputation as a strongman despite being the total coward he is The points you mention are probably how he'd avoid ever doing it in public
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DarkHorse posted:...and getting a worse return on his massive inheritance than if he'd literally just let the bank give him the paltry 0.1% interest, so I can only assume he'd somehow maintain his reputation as a strongman despite being the total coward he is I think that the argument is that Trump would have been richer had he invested in the S&P/other index funds (10% annual return), not collecting interest at 0.1% from a bank. The counterargument is that passively sitting around without any business ventures would not have created the image of Trump which allowed him to run for president and be famous, etc., and that the market return assumes not really taking money out and living extravagantly in the way that he has.
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small butter posted:I think that the argument is that Trump would have been richer had he invested in the S&P/other index funds (10% annual return), not collecting interest at 0.1% from a bank. IIRC the worked version I saw did actually still account for lavish spending
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Nonsense posted:I believe the most likely legal project Trump pursues to the bitter end, regardless of his re-election or failure, is the destruction of no-fault divorce. Is "my husband has been found guilty of many things" not an acceptable fault?
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DarkHorse posted:He somehow has a reputation as a good businessman despite dozens of bankruptcies, idiotic business decisions like opening casinos that competed either each other, and getting a worse return on his massive inheritance than if he'd literally just let the bank give him the paltry 0.1% interest, so I can only assume he'd somehow maintain his reputation as a strongman despite being the total coward he is
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Feb 20, 2024 23:17
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SpelledBackwards posted:Is "my husband has been found guilty of many things" not an acceptable fault? The Stormy Daniels thing thing already would have covered that, but I believe this is more about the rest of the lovely Husband Universe that is called the GOP. Not to say there aren't lovely (ex-)wives there; looking at you, Boebert and T-Green.
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Feb 20, 2024 23:28
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DTurtle posted:His reputation as a good businessman is based completely on "The Apprentice". As stupid as it is, playing a succesful business on TV for 14 years stuck. There does seem to be a lot of lovely puff pieces written about him in the 80's about how smart and businessy he was, from the sort of places you expect to write puff pieces about "rich" business types.
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dr_rat posted:There does seem to be a lot of lovely puff pieces written about him in the 80's about how smart and businessy he was, from the sort of places you expect to write puff pieces about "rich" business types. I literally remember watching one of those in the actual 1980s when I was a goddam eight year old and thinking "this dude seems like a shithead" everyone hated him even then people hated him so much even then that they made Back to the Future II about it
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The actual Mafia thought Trump was too shady for them back in the day
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Bloom County brought him in as a character specifically to make fun of him for being awful.
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skeleton warrior posted:Bloom County brought him in as a character specifically to make fun of him for being awful. By having him crushed by a falling yacht anchor and transplanting his brain into Bill the Cat, after which Ivana kicks him out of Trump Towers and he ends up homeless for a while. It was a fun arc, then they brought it back to end the series by having him by Bloom County and sell it off for parts
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skeleton warrior posted:Bloom County brought him in as a character specifically to make fun of him for being awful. bloom county brought him in to kill bloom county even then he was the Death Of All Things
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Lest We Forget, Sesame Street has been throwing shade at him since the 80s for being living offal.
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dr_rat posted:There does seem to be a lot of lovely puff pieces written about him in the 80's about how smart and businessy he was, from the sort of places you expect to write puff pieces about "rich" business types. His main success was and has been getting TV and movies to pretend he's super rich and successful. Most of the country never had to actually deal with him and just knows him from cameos, being performatively ostentatious, and The Apprentice. Media has done a decent job pointing out he's a gaudy piece of poo poo, but let him keep his precious image of being successful. Dude was born on third and now lives on second, but insists he hit a double.
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As usual, youtube comments are their own reality. Apparently because of the Trump Engoron verdict: The judge is about to be disbarred The Supreme court is going to overturn it imminently There is a trucker strike (patriots!) protesting the verdict that is crippling the city The governor and mayor of NYC are in a panic because of all the business leaders threatening/planning to/actively pulling out so they won’t be targeted next. those liberals are about to be hoisted on their own petard
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V-Men posted:I will say that Vice Presidents are a dime a dozen at Deutsche Bank. A former one is here, posting amongst you!!
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:As usual, youtube comments are their own reality. I love the logic that thinks a judicial judgement can be impacted by a boycott it don't work like that even if the boycott were real, which it isn't, but still
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:They also assumed that anybody carrying on like Trump has been would have the same thing happen to them that happened to Aaron Burr. This is actually a very valid point. There were social norms of the day--including socially-acceptablemurder-- which absolutely served as a restraint on egregious behavior.
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:As usual, youtube comments are their own reality.
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Gyges posted:His main success was and has been getting TV and movies to pretend he's super rich and successful. Most of the country never had to actually deal with him and just knows him from cameos, being performatively ostentatious, and The Apprentice. Media has done a decent job pointing out he's a gaudy piece of poo poo, but let him keep his precious image of being successful. Dude was born on third and now lives on second, but insists he hit a double. He's a multiple Razzie award winner.
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He's kind of the proto-Kardassian in that he was famous for being famous, and because he was rich and famous everybody just assumed he was good at business, even though his business ventures were/are the rich person equivalent of Amway.
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Simplex posted:He's kind of the proto-Kardassian in that he was famous for being famous, and because he was rich and famous everybody just assumed he was good at business, even though his business ventures were/are the rich person equivalent of Amway. Keeping Up with the Kardassians, starring Gul Dukat and Elim Garak.
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Bloody Pom posted:Keeping Up with the Kardassians, starring Gul Dukat and Elim Garak. Trump's lies are far beneath the dignity of Garak. Like insisting a Michelin star chef make you a PB&J.
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Gyges posted:Trump's lies are far beneath the dignity of Garak. Like insisting a Michelin star chef make you a PB&J. It's gonna be a drat fine pb&j after he makes the pb, j, and bread from scratch.
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i have been watching the trucker boycott poo poo happening from the inside, which is wild, because specific trucker communities (the angry white ones that constantly piss about how pakis are stealing all their jerbs and washing they feets at the love's bathroom sink) are sometimes just the dumbest hillbilly chud poo poo you ever heard it goes as follows - ANY NEWS ON THE NEW YORK TRUCKER BOYCOTT FELLAS HOWS IT GOING - uh nothing's up and commercial traffic is pretty much normal - yeah i just got two loads out of newark and - WELL O COURSE THEY WOULDN'T REPORT ON IT IN THE NEWS AND SCARE PEOPLE. SILENT REVOLUTION - no im at a transfer center in queens right now and the company truckers are still running full capacity and - FOX NEWS TALKED ABOUT IT. THEM FOLKS IN NYC BETTER GET READY FOR poo poo TO GET REAL - every company driver here got full dry vans going into the city today what are you talking about - TRUMP
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No, no I'm sure companies would just quietly let their drivers come in and refuse routes with no other option. They certainly wouldn't just implement some sort of discipline on the crying chud and at worst get someone else to do it. Hell the dumbass who started the meme deleted his video and quickly put up a statement about it all being hypothetical or something. Clearly another victim of the Biden Crime Family's intimidation.
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Staluigi posted:i have been watching the trucker boycott poo poo happening from the inside, which is wild, because specific trucker communities (the angry white ones that constantly piss about how pakis are stealing all their jerbs and washing they feets at the love's bathroom sink) are sometimes just the dumbest hillbilly chud poo poo you ever heard I'm a little impressed that anyone can make themselves that dumb intentionally
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Staluigi posted:i have been watching the trucker boycott poo poo happening from the inside, which is wild, because specific trucker communities (the angry white ones that constantly piss about how pakis are stealing all their jerbs and washing they feets at the love's bathroom sink) are sometimes just the dumbest hillbilly chud poo poo you ever heard I need more posts like this in my life.
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This thread is making me wonder things about the intersection of US tax law and gift card law.The Question IRL posted:But I believe the real reason companies do it, is they can claim the Gift cards as a Tax deduction while paying their employees a bonus. What kind of deduction is that, and why would it be better than just deducting the employee’s wages and employment taxes? Pillowpants posted:Any company that gives you a gift card for anything usually isn’t telling you that per IRS rules they have to add the income to your taxable earnings for your w2. Any benefit like that is taxable under the law, unless there’s something about US taxes that I did wrong for years. Otherwise every exec would get paid $1 in salary and the rest as a “gift” to avoid paying income tax on it. (The corporate tax rate is much better than the income one, and easier to reduce in simple ways.) How else could it be legally handled by HR/Finance?
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