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Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Eric Cantonese posted:

I thought they did unravel the conspiracy and it involved a lot of debauched, rich people. Unfortunately, aside from punishing the actual killer, they can only publicly disgrace the main powerful family that was involved.

Maybe that's not what you were hoping for, but that's my memory of it.

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

There was a conspiracy to protect the guy from consequences but there wasn't a conspiracy to do the things he did

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Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012
Fascists love negative attention and liberals love saying things that make themselves feel morally superior and smug.

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

But weren't there a bunch of people attending the ritual that was captured on videotape? Sorry if I'm missing your point and getting hung up on semantics.

Eric Cantonese has issued a correction as of 17:09 on Feb 26, 2024

Tsitsikovas
Aug 2, 2023
They also videotaped the rituals, the implication being this is snuff that's getting passed around.

Rust's rambling meanwhile was certainly one part drunk sadguy rambling, but was also one part being a meandering rear end in a top hat on purpose because he doesn't trust the cops at all. In the timeline he pretty much gets out of the interrogation room, calls Marty, and says "yo meet me at my storage unit gently caress these fucks"

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002

wonder if they ran out of worm buckets, can’t go until the middle of the week

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Eric Cantonese posted:

But weren't there a bunch of people attending the various homicidal rituals? Sorry if I'm missing your point and getting hung up on semantics.

yes there were. Tuttle family members were implicated but they were dead and/or untouchable, the Childress gardener was just the last man standing of the muscle/procurers, if that makes sense

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

i was watching the Hideo Kojima documentary last night and it's funny that the universal response he got when he first pitched Death Stranding to his team was "people won't like this because it's different"

What documentary?

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
idk what point people are trying to make about it "just being one guy" when it's clear that Childress was just the only piece of the puzzle in a relatively unprotected zone. That's why he was the one part of the conspiracy they were able to find and prosecute - that doesn't mean all of the stuff involving the elites was like a Red Herring or whatever.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

In Training posted:

What documentary?

Hideo Kojima: Connecting Worlds. Just came out on Hulu, even though it's advertised on everything I've seen as "now on Disney Plus".

Tsitsikovas
Aug 2, 2023
The red herring was the metaphysical poo poo that a lot of viewers at the time wanted to be real. I remember having watch parties were people were mad the yellow king wasnt an actual yellow monster. The real story was "the powered elite are all violent sex monsters and get away with it all the time"

The denouement of the season iirc was that the info got sent to the press, the one guy got officially charged, while the family and anyone involved vehmently denied it, per some news report playing on the background. I haven't seen it in a while but I think those were the contours.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Tsitsikovas posted:

The red herring was the metaphysical poo poo that a lot of viewers at the time wanted to be real. I remember having watch parties were people were mad the yellow king wasnt an actual yellow monster. The real story was "the powered elite are all violent sex monsters and get away with it all the time"

The denouement of the season iirc was that the info got sent to the press, the one guy got officially charged, while the family and anyone involved vehmently denied it, per some news report playing on the background. I haven't seen it in a while but I think those were the contours.

Yes, and there were bodies found on the property

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:

(Watching the Great Dictator) I dunno guys, this Hynkel character seems to be on to something. Look at him dance!

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Pulcinella posted:

Very funny for how much capitalism likes to promote the idea that the all the money should go to the capitalists and not the workers because the ownership class takes on all the risk, they are very risk averse. The wealthiest companies are the most risk averse. Disney should be incredibly well equipped and financially able to withstand creating new things even if they flop, yet can only buy up and produce old ideas (e.g. flooding the market with cape poo poo and Star Wars). The more risk averse they are the faster they burn out currently financially viable ideas. Same in video games with GAAS or plastic guitar games. The more the rate of profit continues to fall the more they run that poo poo into the ground. Capitalism can't make new ideas, only strip-mine existing ones.

I was just watching a Defunctland video and there was a speech from Michael Eisner that basically summed this up. To paraphrase, he basically says that to have amazing hit movies, you have to risk some of them being total duds. To get A+s, you have to risk some Ds or Fs. But instead today all major studios seem to aim for C+.

Risk aversion has gone from "let's study risk and how risk/reward works" to "how do I make sure I have literally zero risk"

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
I think the "metaphysics as a red herring" is annoying to people because Rust's residual hallucinations are similar to like Shivers in Disco Elysium, "sometimes the universe talks to you and whispers secrets that point you in the right direction" and you don't actually get to know whether it's God having a direct line to your brain or you're just delusional and lucky and happened on a coincidence. No one does. That's not a satisfying answer but unfortunately it's the one all of us have to live with.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

actually god speaks to me.

Pulcinella
Feb 15, 2019
Edit: NM

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

In Training posted:

actually god speaks to me.

of course

Pulcinella
Feb 15, 2019

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

Hideo Kojima: Connecting Worlds. Just came out on Hulu, even though it's advertised on everything I've seen as "now on Disney Plus".

From what I've read it's on Disney+ literally everywhere except the USA, where it's on Hulu for some reason (even though I believe Disney has a large stake in Hulu if they don't own it outright at this point).

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
they do it just pisses me off that I went through the trouble of signing up for a free disney plus trial to watch a movie they didn't even have lol

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

they do it just pisses me off that I went through the trouble of signing up for a free disney plus trial to watch a movie they didn't even have lol

lol owned.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
i was. i got owned big time by the mouse.

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys
but just think how much Content you now have access to! id be thanking mickey if i were you

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

After 2 middling movies and now a crappy game that killed it's franchise, why is DC so desperate to make Suicide Squad a big thing?

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Uncle Wemus posted:

After 2 middling movies and now a crappy game that killed it's franchise, why is DC so desperate to make Suicide Squad a big thing?

cuz you don't have to have one big tentpole actor to hang the franchise on, you can swap out your B-Tier Supermen between movies and no one will care because they're excited for The Brand. Also I think the James Gunn one did well, if it didn't they probably wouldn't have done a TV spinoff

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

cuz you don't have to have one big tentpole actor to hang the franchise on, you can swap out your B-Tier Supermen between movies and no one will care because they're excited for The Brand. Also I think the James Gunn one did well, if it didn't they probably wouldn't have done a TV spinoff

the first one did well financially it made like 800 million dollars

quote:

Suicide Squad was a box office success,[99] grossing $325.1 million in the United States and Canada and $421.7 million in other territories for a worldwide total of $746.8 million, against a production budget of $175 million ($325 million including advertising and promotion costs)

Pulcinella
Feb 15, 2019

Uncle Wemus posted:

After 2 middling movies and now a crappy game that killed it's franchise, why is DC so desperate to make Suicide Squad a big thing?

WTF when did they make a second one? Fake edit: This led me down a rabbit hole of looking up super hero movies + release dates. There are two Shazam movies? Three live action spiderman movies in 4 years (thought there was just two)? What the hell are The Marvels and Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Elemental Masters? Need to start spraying, there is an infestation of these things.

Tsitsikovas
Aug 2, 2023
It was actually Kazaam and it starred Shaq. Sinbad was never in a movie named shazam. Classic coriolis effect.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
The second one was really good actually and it set up the Peacemaker series which is also quite good. John Cena is a treasure

e: also it has a dude provoking a bunch of neo-nazis into a prison fight and then absolutely brutalizing them

the show not the movie to be clear. The movie has a really good gag clearly modeled on the part in Predator where they assault the rebel camp or whatever

Professor Beetus has issued a correction as of 17:59 on Feb 26, 2024

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Phase 5 of the MCU ftw. Will likely obnly be topped by Phase 6.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

barbie suicide squad crossover please

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys
Barbicide Squaddenheimer

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS98EHXPBxw

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

idk what point people are trying to make about it "just being one guy" when it's clear that Childress was just the only piece of the puzzle in a relatively unprotected zone. That's why he was the one part of the conspiracy they were able to find and prosecute - that doesn't mean all of the stuff involving the elites was like a Red Herring or whatever.

I really hate that I keep posting about but I'm saying the show says Childress was the only one actually doing murders, abuse, burying bodies. Other people might have watched for their entertainment, and covered up what he did, but he was the only guy physically doing the evil stuff. And I felt like the first few episodes hint at there being more people that actually committed the crimes. Rather than just getting off on him committing crimes and protecting him. I am so sorry for continuing to carry on about this I just don't think I've communicated myself properly.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I'm saying the show says Childress was the only one actually doing murders, abuse, burying bodies.

I fundamentally disagree with that take. I never got that impression. He was the single loose thread that was able to be caught.

e: The Tuttles buried the bodies on the childress land because he's already the son of a bastard son. You are able to fold the operation and pin it all on one person who is relatively disconnected. He's inbred epstein lol

Pepe Silvia Browne has issued a correction as of 19:23 on Feb 26, 2024

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
great now i gotta rewatch true detective s1 smdh

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I really hate that I keep posting about but I'm saying the show says Childress was the only one actually doing murders, abuse, burying bodies. Other people might have watched for their entertainment, and covered up what he did, but he was the only guy physically doing the evil stuff. And I felt like the first few episodes hint at there being more people that actually committed the crimes. Rather than just getting off on him committing crimes and protecting him. I am so sorry for continuing to carry on about this I just don't think I've communicated myself properly.

No?? Rust finds child porn at Bishop Tuttle's place and the tent preacher gjy talks about how the Tuttle Schools were covering up abuse. Tuttle's father (also the father of Sheriff Childress, burnface's dad) sexually abused his grandkids. There's plenty of men in the rape (also murder I assume??) movie Rust shows Marty and given the status of the Tuttle family (one is literally state governor) to me it's obviously implied other elites were involved. Which makes all the more sense when the news report on burnface dismisses out of hand that anyone else was involved

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

a lot of people itt who are justifying the existence of recap websites/tv podcasts

Tbf it's understandable to not have perfect recall of a thing you're not super into but it's p funny to make so many clearly wrong declarations about said thing

Blood Boils has issued a correction as of 19:33 on Feb 26, 2024

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Then I'm wrong, and I apologize for wasting people's time. I honestly thought the show was saying okay once he's gone, that's it.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

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Cookie Cutter
Nov 29, 2020

Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I really hate that I keep posting about but I'm saying the show says Childress was the only one actually doing murders, abuse, burying bodies. Other people might have watched for their entertainment, and covered up what he did, but he was the only guy physically doing the evil stuff. And I felt like the first few episodes hint at there being more people that actually committed the crimes. Rather than just getting off on him committing crimes and protecting him. I am so sorry for continuing to carry on about this I just don't think I've communicated myself properly.

Childress himself outright says he was a product of the cycle, he wants to do what was done to him, "to all the sons and daughters of man". He was raised getting abused by the real criminals and when he grew up he turned into their hot new talent.

e: slightly late.

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