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An empty box titled "What's new in new Teams" greeted me this morning Can't lie, if the box is correct then I'm glad nothing has been hosed with since yesterday
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a "What's broken in Teams" box would be a lot more helpful but it would probably read like one of those giant 40 page EULAs
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Feb 27, 2024 09:04
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my teams client crashed and wouldn’t reopen until I restarted 
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Got it!
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Feb 27, 2024 15:32
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work outlook updated, what the gently caress? is this how microsoft thinks "smilies" is supposed to be spelled?
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Feb 27, 2024 15:41
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How did Windows XP manage to avoid being a complete disaster? You’d think that changing from DOS to NT would bump up the minimum requirements and make a lot of software and hardware incompatible, but if that was common then people would still be bitter about it. All those problems happened with Vista, despite it being less of an overhaul. One of the interviews on Dave’s Garage brought up Longhorn. Despite how much a success XP was at unifying the home and business versions of Windows, the Longhorn team wanted to split them again. The home versions could be consumer slop with more frequent new versions and less testing. Since they prioritised new features instead of stability, it was nearly impossible to get Longhorn in a releasable state. Now everyone’s stuck with consumer Windows unless you’re somehow able to access LTSC
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Feb 27, 2024 22:27
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xp pre sp3 was a disaster, especially on the security side when you would image a machine with xp and then connect it to the internet to download the latest updates it was a race to see if it could download and install those updates before the machine was port-scanned and attacked
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Feb 27, 2024 22:36
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Sasser and Blaster was fun times for everyone good thing crypto ransoms hadn't been invented yet
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I worked for a security software company 2004-2006 and a lot of the demos were pretty hilarious, like "take a brand new windows machine and expose it to the internet for 90 seconds, whoops now it has malware that lives in the motherboard bios forever"
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Feb 27, 2024 23:01
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FMguru posted:xp pre sp3 was a disaster, especially on the security side You’re right, but was it any worse at online security than Windows 98 SE? What was their reason for releasing Windows ME? Seems like a scam to sell people a dead-end DOS-based OS when they were about to switch everything over to NT.
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Feb 27, 2024 23:12
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That loving Sned posted:How did Windows XP manage to avoid being a complete disaster? You’d think that changing from DOS to NT would bump up the minimum requirements and make a lot of software and hardware incompatible, but if that was common then people would still be bitter about it. All those problems happened with Vista, despite it being less of an overhaul. 2000 was the one that made the switch from DOS/9X to NT. and the requirement's did go up. 98 was usable with 16 or 32MB, 2000 really needed 64 minimum.
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Feb 27, 2024 23:12
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I have bad memories of windows 2000 running on 64mb in a domain environment Paired with a badly fragmented mechanical drive booting the computer, logging on and reaching the desktop could be a 15 minute process Virtual memory is kind of a cursed invention, it gave developers an excuse to stop caring about reasonable memory allocations and let the OS deal with it
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Feb 27, 2024 23:18
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That loving Sned posted:You’re right, but was it any worse at online security than Windows 98 SE? it was a stop-gap because their first attempt to switch everybody over to NT was a failure that got canceled before release
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Feb 27, 2024 23:28
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ME was a bunch of half-tested new features and patches that could have been a service pack for 98, but OEMs wanted a new OS because they were dumb and scared of 2000 (which had already been released) because it was NT and might not run grandma's knitting pattern editor from 1993.
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Feb 27, 2024 23:33
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Sweevo posted:2000 was the one that made the switch from DOS/9X to NT. and the requirement's did go up. 98 was usable with 16 or 32MB, 2000 really needed 64 minimum. arguably 2k wasn’t pushed out as a replacement for everything
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Feb 27, 2024 23:40
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Sweevo posted:ME was a bunch of half-tested new features and patches that could have been a service pack for 98, but OEMs wanted a new OS because they were dumb and scared of 2000 (which had already been released) because it was NT and might not run grandma's knitting pattern editor from 1993. 98 didn't deserve to have that crap dropped on it, I'm glad ME got used as a one-and-done containment zone for a lot of junk I remember begging my dad to let me put a totally legit copy of win 2k I acquired from a friend on our family computer to replace ME, but he was too much of a square to let me try 
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Feb 27, 2024 23:40
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Up-to-date microsoft news: the 'join online' button in Outlook reminders no-longer works for approximately 50% of the office, nobody knows why
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Feb 27, 2024 23:42
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jammyozzy posted:Up-to-date microsoft news: the 'join online' button in Outlook reminders no-longer works for approximately 50% of the office, nobody knows why
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Feb 27, 2024 23:46
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jammyozzy posted:Up-to-date microsoft news: the 'join online' button in Outlook reminders no-longer works for approximately 50% of the office, nobody knows why yay cloud 
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Feb 27, 2024 23:47
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Chris Knight posted:do you have Teams (new) (for work or school) (beta)? Some people do, but it seems to affect both Teams (new) and Teams Fortress Classic
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Feb 28, 2024 00:03
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some peeps were saying the same thing at work, and either a reboot and/or restarting Teams did the trick
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That loving Sned posted:How did Windows XP manage to avoid being a complete disaster? You’d think that changing from DOS to NT would bump up the minimum requirements and make a lot of software and hardware incompatible, but if that was common then people would still be bitter about it. All those problems happened with Vista, despite it being less of an overhaul. xp is just an iteration on windows 2000, this is reflected in its kernel version (5.1). windows 2000 already had much better hardware support than nt 4, and had more UI refinements than both NT 4 and windows 98(se) That loving Sned posted:What was their reason for releasing Windows ME? Seems like a scam to sell people a dead-end DOS-based OS when they were about to switch everything over to NT. so their rationale for releasing ME was to bring the 9x line into apparent (literally, appearances only) parity with windows 2000. it copied most of the changes to the ui, and notoriously simply hid DOS instead of removing it pseudorandom name posted:it was a stop-gap because their first attempt to switch everybody over to NT was a failure that got canceled before release this isn't exactly right, but it's close. windows "neptune" was supposed to be the consumer version of NT, but it got rolled into the whistler project (intended to be the next "pro" iteration of NT) and became whistler home edition, aka windows xp home edition
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also iirc there was one (1) release of windows neptune, and it had a kernel version of 5.5 or something it had some interesting ideas like the simplified control panel and full-screen logon that ended up in xp, but other than that wasn't really very different from 2k and then got axed
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jammyozzy posted:Up-to-date microsoft news: the 'join online' button in Outlook reminders no-longer works for approximately 50% of the office, nobody knows why my outlook likes to give me a “join Skype meeting” button on meetings that are obviously set to zoom links in the location field. haven’t been brave enough to try clicking it yet.not sure where I’ll wind up
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Feb 28, 2024 00:18
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alsoThat loving Sned posted:All those problems happened with Vista, despite it being less of an overhaul. xp -> vista was a much bigger overhaul than 2k -> xp. this is also reflected in its kernel version (6.0). it made major changes to the display driver model and graphics stack in general, had security refinements from windows server 2003, added a slew of features (that were far less ambitious than originally planned, but still), etc i was on the beta team for longhorn from the beginning, and there was always a home edition. i'm assuming you're talking about dave cutler? he should know better
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Feb 28, 2024 00:31
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jammyozzy posted:Up-to-date microsoft news: the 'join online' button in Outlook reminders no-longer works for approximately 50% of the office, nobody knows why this has been a thing across multiple clients for at least half of february. poo poo be broke and the usual incantations do not fix it reliably or permanently.
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Feb 28, 2024 00:47
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I loved when Steve made fun of all the versions of windows by saying there was a bunch of versions of leopard or whatever but they all cost the same .
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Last Chance posted:I loved when Steve made fun of all the versions of windows by saying there was a bunch of versions of leopard or whatever but they all cost the same . home: $129 premium: $129 business: $129 enterprise: $129 ultimate: $129 “We think most people are going to buy the ultimate version.”
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Feb 28, 2024 01:26
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I'm sure beeftweeter will be happy to explain how all versions of windows cost the same if you just use this one weird trick
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echinopsis posted:arguably 2k wasn’t pushed out as a replacement for everything 2k was a replacement for NT 4, no more, no less. sweevo is wrong, it wasn't intended to replace 9x or really be for consumers at all pseudorandom name posted:I'm sure beeftweeter will be happy to explain how all versions of windows cost the same if you just use this one weird trick yes, all versions of windows are free if you know enough weird tricks. unfortunately that's usually more than one, but sometimes it's not. depends on which version
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Feb 28, 2024 01:35
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I just export the complete mak key list for every OS from the vlsc before I leave an employer, much easier.
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Branch Nvidian posted:home: $129 yessss lol
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went and found the keynote. seeing a whole hour dedicated to just os x feels utterly wild compared to now where it feels like they just announce a new macos name, couple of features and then move on to the ios variants for an hour
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steve actually knew how to work an audience, and also what he was talking about when referencing technical features/specs. tim just stands around in front of a bluescreen and throws to other people apple keynotes are just extended advertisements now, and not particularly good ones
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Beeftweeter posted:steve actually knew how to work an audience, and also what he was talking about when referencing technical features/specs. tim just stands around in front of a bluescreen and throws to other people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5J_dIRjLyU
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yeah they're terrible. if you can't get a guy to compellingly read the bullet points or whatever just give us the loving slideshow, this poo poo is supposed to be for developers
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Beeftweeter posted:yeah they're terrible. if you can't get a guy to compellingly read the bullet points or whatever just give us the loving slideshow, this poo poo is supposed to be for developers WWDC is for developers like E3 was for gaming industry professionals
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Sweevo posted:2000 was the one that made the switch from DOS/9X to NT. and the requirement's did go up. 98 was usable with 16 or 32MB, 2000 really needed 64 minimum. XP was godawful on 64MB and even on 128MB you weren't having a good time.
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Branch Nvidian posted:WWDC is for developers like E3 was for gaming industry professionals WWDC was absolutely for developers before tim took over. steve was just a good enough presenter to make it intelligible and compelling for regular people in comparison WWDC under tim is just a series of bad ads presented poorly for an audience of morons
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