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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1762667307015221401?t=9weXMHrIoQYzgfRd3NkgHA&s=19

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poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


*reads bio*
ah well he recently graduated from harvard so he’s clearly smart enough to do anything

022524
Feb 25, 2024

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003


Propagandists used to launder their credentials a lot better than this, it's honestly kind of disappointing

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022

The Oldest Man posted:

Propagandists used to launder their credentials a lot better than this, it's honestly kind of disappointing

all the people who were good at it were so good at it that their successors successors dont realize there is something they're supposed to be good at hiding

the nepobaby cycle

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

You're supposed to set up a think tank with NED money that one of these failures can go work at for like five years writing non-partisan and completely anodyne whitepapers (that still support israeli colonialism) then have them launder the made up hoax poo poo into the mainstream during the war! You can't just grab some random person with a "Death to Palestine" shirt off the street, it's too obvious!

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



excuse me, he's not a random person, he went to harvard.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Shear Modulus posted:

excuse me, he's not a random person, he went to harvard.

See, this was their first mistake. You don't have the lettered meritocrat and the obvious propagandist co-write the propaganda, that's way too obvious.

Learn from the right wing media laundering machine:

1. Have some completely made and up and probably photoshopped or otherwise fabricated bullshit pop up on the internet or get shown in a press conference. It doesn't matter how obviously faked it is at this stage, since this is just grist for the next steps. For example: a couple absolute cranks with nazi paraphernalia in their socials make youtube videos about how homeless people in downtown seattle are stabbing random passersby with fentanyl needles.
2. Have your pro-genocide propagandist write a piece about this on their substack and give it the absolute minimum veneering of "people are saying" rather than "i saw the fentanyl stabber" - they can be as bloodthirsty as you want, but should refrain from having any actual swastika tattoos that would prevent them from...
3. Appearing for an interview with the Harvard think tanker who actually works for the mainstream media outlet like the NYT to talk about their substack piece at length.

Boom, you've just laundered completely and obviously fake horseshit from the depths of the dark web onto the front page of a major newspaper in two moves.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/pblest/status/1763079326289756405

https://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/1763152986409238865

hadji murad
Apr 18, 2006
lot of innocent people died because of their reporting. gently caress the nyt forever.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Western commies acting superior to anarchists is the saddest thing ever, it's like two dorks who weren't picked to play ball arguing over who wasnt picked the most

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
Anat Schwartz had a problem. The Israeli filmmaker and former air force intelligence official had been assigned by the New York Times to work with her nephew Adam Sella

ding ding ding

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

RealityWarCriminal posted:

Anat Schwartz had a problem. The Israeli filmmaker and former air force intelligence official had been assigned by the New York Times to work with her nephew Adam Sella

ding ding ding

of course

nepo within nepo

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Schwartz crime family

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1763187530474655880?t=5iC7kCQEXkpMyN8gGhKbVw&s=19

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



"Chaotic incident". Go gently caress yourselves, CNN.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

if there was actual justice these garbage rags would be tried as accessories to genocide

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004


what the gently caress

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Opened fire with tanks

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

:lol: I did not know until this story that NYT had fired their standards editor because he'd refused to back down after Oct. 7 on his stance that Hamas can't be labeled a "terrorist" group because they're the de facto administrator of Gaza.

quote:

Shortly after the war broke out, some editors and reporters complained that Times standards barred them from referring to Hamas as “terrorists.” The rationale from the standards department, run for 14 years by Philip Corbett, had long been that Hamas was the de facto administrator of a specific territory, rather than a stateless terror group. Deliberately killing civilians, went the argument, was not enough to label a group terrorists, as that label could apply quite broadly.

Corbett, after October 7, defended the policy in the face of pressure, newsroom sources said, but he lost. On October 19, an email went out on behalf of Executive Editor Joe Kahn saying that Corbett had asked to step back from his position. “After 14 years as the embodiment of Times standards, Phil Corbett has told us he’d like to step back a bit and let someone else take the leading role in this crucial effort,” Times leadership explained. Three newsroom sources said the move was tied to the pressure he was under to soften coverage in Israel’s favor.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/jasonhickel/status/1763250884954259639

Death to journalists

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003


food aid involved hamas related shootings

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



An unfortunate tank-involved shelling.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
We uhh, we drove over some folks.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

PostNouveau posted:

:lol: I did not know until this story that NYT had fired their standards editor because he'd refused to back down after Oct. 7 on his stance that Hamas can't be labeled a "terrorist" group because they're the de facto administrator of Gaza.

Considering the other poo poo the NYT standards has allowed over the years this guy probably had trash politics overall, but I respect how stubborn he was on this point. A hero for pedants everywhere.

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003

Who's in charge of this trash?



Katharine Viner? Now why does that sound familiar? Oh yes:

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

PostNouveau posted:

:lol: I did not know until this story that NYT had fired their standards editor because he'd refused to back down after Oct. 7 on his stance that Hamas can't be labeled a "terrorist" group because they're the de facto administrator of Gaza.

quote:

Shortly after the war broke out, some editors and reporters complained that Times standards barred them from referring to Hamas as “terrorists.” The rationale from the standards department, run for 14 years by Philip Corbett, had long been that Hamas was the de facto administrator of a specific territory, rather than a stateless terror group. Deliberately killing civilians, went the argument, was not enough to label a group terrorists, as that label could apply quite broadly.

big "we can't auto ban fascists on twitter because it catches too many repulibcans" energy

DynamicSloth
Jul 30, 2006

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."
Don't worry the gray lady won't take this lying down.


https://twitter.com/charlottetklein/status/1763258371925217709

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

“food-aid-related deaths” like there was loving botulism or E. coli

“oops, your meagre survival rations were accidentally contaminated with high-explosive rounds. hate that!”

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1763215930224447865

Karach
May 23, 2003

no war but class war

Community Notes has made discourse on Twitter freer and more accurate than ever before

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


https://x.com/SanaSaeed/status/1763366383276974201?s=20

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


they didn’t say whose lawlessness

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

poisonpill posted:

they didn’t say whose lawlessness
yeah, international lawlessness is still a form of lawlessness

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

that article about Alex Tizon came out in 2017

Jia Tolentino revealing her parents's human trafficking scheme happened in 2020

the Philippines passed the "Domestic Workers Act" in 2013

there's absolutely no excuse for any Filipino at the time to have not recognized that the treatment of household help was frequently inhumane and amounted in indentured servitude, within the context of the state having to pass a law to mandate humane treatment

and it's not like even this law makes the whole thing hunky-dory:

what I am saying that the existence of this law proves that the entire sector of domestic help was rife with abuse and exploitation from the top down, and it cannot and should not be chalked up to mere "cultural context" that Filipinos owned slaves

i feel like the part of the tizon story everyone overlooked to go "wow do better philippines just outlaw slavery like all us civilized countries did" is that the domestic servants situation only got turboawful when they illegally smuggled her into the united states something she actively resisted doing and which they had to ultimately bribe her to agree to doing with promises of remission money for her family that they never had any intention of keeping

its incredibly disingenuous framing to blame the filipino cultural context for what happened to her when the actual events of the story make it clear that the filipino cultural context was the only thing not making the arrangement outright slavery and once the social pressure of the filipino cultural context was gone it immediately became outright slavery

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

it's obviously enraging, but the opening line is VERY funny

ANAT SCHWARTZ HAD a problem. The Israeli filmmaker and former air force intelligence official had been assigned by the New York Times to work with her partner’s nephew Adam Sella and veteran Times reporter Jeffrey Gettleman on an investigation into sexual violence by Hamas on October 7 that could reshape the way the world understood Israel’s ongoing war in the Gaza Strip.

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1762992676431855740
https://twitter.com/KroghSean/status/1763003842885767347
https://twitter.com/KroghSean/status/1763004241516658860

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Some Guy TT posted:

i feel like the part of the tizon story everyone overlooked to go "wow do better philippines just outlaw slavery like all us civilized countries did" is that the domestic servants situation only got turboawful when they illegally smuggled her into the united states something she actively resisted doing and which they had to ultimately bribe her to agree to doing with promises of remission money for her family that they never had any intention of keeping

its incredibly disingenuous framing to blame the filipino cultural context for what happened to her when the actual events of the story make it clear that the filipino cultural context was the only thing not making the arrangement outright slavery and once the social pressure of the filipino cultural context was gone it immediately became outright slavery

I recently finished watching "Expats", a series starring Nicole Kidman, which tells the story of a family of... expats, from the USA, living in Hong Kong. One of the central pillars of the plot is the family's youngest child, a toddler, getting lost in a Hong Kong night market and never being found again. The Filipino maid, whom Kidman sent away for a day-off on the night of the incident, is wracked by guilt over not being there where she could have kept an eye on the child; so much so that when the family decides to move back to the US, she willingly goes along with them, and especially since Kidman decides to stay behind in HK to keep looking for her son, and tearfully asks the maid to raise the rest of her kids.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous

gradenko_2000 posted:

I recently finished watching "Expats", a series starring Nicole Kidman, which tells the story of a family of... expats, from the USA, living in Hong Kong. One of the central pillars of the plot is the family's youngest child, a toddler, getting lost in a Hong Kong night market and never being found again. The Filipino maid, whom Kidman sent away for a day-off on the night of the incident, is wracked by guilt over not being there where she could have kept an eye on the child; so much so that when the family decides to move back to the US, she willingly goes along with them, and especially since Kidman decides to stay behind in HK to keep looking for her son, and tearfully asks the maid to raise the rest of her kids.

You have got to be loving kidding me.

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Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


haha yeah thats messed up, things were sure different on television back in....oh no.....

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