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The Super manga will be on indefinite hiatus after this week’s chapter: https://screenrant.com/dragon-ball-super-hiatus-akira-toriyamas-passing/
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TheKingofSprings posted:I refuse to call Evolution keeping anything alive and Battle of Gods came out in 2012, there was a big gap before then Yo! Son Goku was late 2008, Episode of Bardock was 2011, Dragon Ball Z Kai was 2009 (forgot that one)... There was no gap.
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Mar 18, 2024 18:38
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Kurui Reiten posted:Yo! Son Goku was late 2008, Episode of Bardock was 2011, Dragon Ball Z Kai was 2009 (forgot that one)... There was if you were an American. Yo! Son Goku never got a US release ever, Episode of Bardock didn't get one until well over a year later. If you're discussing Abridged you're presumably discussing a US audience because nobody in Japan cares about that poo poo.
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Mar 18, 2024 18:42
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Larryb posted:The Super manga will be on indefinite hiatus after this week’s chapter: rip
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Mar 18, 2024 18:45
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Turns out they never did beat Black Frieza
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Mar 18, 2024 18:47
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No Dignity posted:Turns out they never did beat Black Frieza he's too strong
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Mar 18, 2024 18:50
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they will probably continue it eventually but i expect a big dip in quality to what was already a mediocre manga without toriyama to mediate toyotoro's worst impulses
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Mar 18, 2024 18:50
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El Negro Freezer
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Mar 18, 2024 18:51
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We could have had Gohan Blanco vs Frieza Negro
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Mar 18, 2024 18:54
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ImpAtom posted:There was if you were an American. Yo! Son Goku never got a US release ever, Episode of Bardock didn't get one until well over a year later. If you're discussing Abridged you're presumably discussing a US audience because nobody in Japan cares about that poo poo. Kai was in 2009, and aired in America in 2010. We also had games and various other things. Again: There was no gap.
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Mar 18, 2024 20:11
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I purchased Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot in honor of Toriyama's passing, and it's good. Amazing fan-service game with a ton of content. It also confirms that Vegeta murdered at least 4 Namekian children in that one village, 3 of whom were together in a little group. Not cool!
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Mar 18, 2024 20:33
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i looked at dragon ball games and there was a period of dormancy between 1997 (final bout lol) when GT ended and 2001 which would be when the series became international and became even more popular than it ever and there hasnt been one since
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Mar 18, 2024 20:34
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final bout was even re-released years later in the united states to meet the demand for dragon ball and ruined many childhoods
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Mar 18, 2024 20:35
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Kurui Reiten posted:Kai was in 2009, and aired in America in 2010. We also had games and various other things. Again: There was no gap. I think you're assuming games matter to people a lot more than they did. Dragonball games never stopped but that didn't mean Yo! Son Goku wasn't a big deal in Japan because it was actual new Dragonball content and not the 100,000th game. Liking Dragonball doesn't mean you like Dragonball games or consider them a valid replacement for actual new content. I don't think DBZA was that big but going "but there were GAMES" feels like... yeah, there were games, but it isn't until you get like the wacky Super Heroes stuff or the Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans thing that people treat them as something actually new. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Mar 18, 2024 20:36
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:they will probably continue it eventually but i expect a big dip in quality to what was already a mediocre manga without toriyama to mediate toyotoro's worst impulses Honestly, a fun exhibition fight between Goku and Gohan at their strongest, and Vegeta and Piccolo and Broly all at around the same level with an even stronger Freeza out there as an ever looming threat…I’m perfectly happy with that being the canonical ending of Dragon Ball. You still need to massage End of Z into it a little bit, but otherwise it works for me. Let it end. I’m sure they’ll make *something* someday, but without Toriyama, I’m happy calling it done here.
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Mar 18, 2024 21:28
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Larryb posted:The Super manga will be on indefinite hiatus after this week’s chapter: Rip. Series ends with frieza winning happily ever after. I think Super only lasted this long with toriyama input and Toyotaro was struggling to keep it together
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Mar 18, 2024 21:38
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Nanigans posted:Honestly, a fun exhibition fight between Goku and Gohan at their strongest, and Vegeta and Piccolo and Broly all at around the same level with an even stronger Freeza out there as an ever looming threat…I’m perfectly happy with that being the canonical ending of Dragon Ball. You still need to massage End of Z into it a little bit, but otherwise it works for me. Let it end. I assume Daima’s still happening at the very least
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Mar 18, 2024 21:40
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Dragon Ball Gold reboots the franchise in an alternate universe in 5 years. A whole new generation starts with a Pilaf Arc that has less jokes about Bulma's penis.
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Mar 18, 2024 21:43
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We’re living in the ‘History of Trucks’ timeline. In another timeline, someone travels from the future to give Toriyama the brain tumor medicine and that world’s Super series continues.
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Mar 18, 2024 21:43
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Nanigans posted:Honestly, a fun exhibition fight between Goku and Gohan at their strongest, and Vegeta and Piccolo and Broly all at around the same level with an even stronger Freeza out there as an ever looming threat…I’m perfectly happy with that being the canonical ending of Dragon Ball. You still need to massage End of Z into it a little bit, but otherwise it works for me. Let it end. Vegeta finally beating goku as well.
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Mar 18, 2024 21:50
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I'm sure it'll continue eventually but I donno. I just have a hard time buying they'll make it sing like Toriyama did and I'm sure that no matter what the truth is anything I dislike will get mentally written off as "if only Toriyama was still around"
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Mar 18, 2024 21:51
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I mean at that point it's just back to the GT/Heroes era of the franchise. The IP is technically still alive but not for anything worthwhile.
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Mar 18, 2024 21:52
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If your new villain doesn't have an incredibly stupid pun based around food they are a failure.
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Mar 18, 2024 21:54
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mycot posted:I mean at that point it's just back to the GT/Heroes era of the franchise. The IP is technically still alive but not for anything worthwhile. the anime for db super has a decent track record, esp. when compared to the same bits in the manga, so im cautiously optimistic
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Mar 18, 2024 22:01
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Yeah it was good because Toriyama was doing the story outline
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Mar 18, 2024 22:05
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I watched the first Tenkaichi Budokai with my kids yesterday. It was a trip. My toddler called Goku and Krillin the "strong babies." I asked what he thought of Yamcha and he replied "no cool." He marked out hard for Goku vs. Jackie Chun, the OG Kamehameha beam struggle, Roshi pretending to be drunk ("Old man funny!"), Goku's monkey style, Goku going Great Ape. He was devastated when Goku lost. Lots of hasty fast forwarding through the panty humor. We outright skipped the whole Namu vs. Ranfan fight.
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Mar 18, 2024 22:08
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I'd have more faith if they entrusted the series to Dragon Garow Lee instead of Toyotaro.
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Mar 18, 2024 22:08
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ImpAtom posted:There was if you were an American. Yo! Son Goku never got a US release ever, Episode of Bardock didn't get one until well over a year later. If you're discussing Abridged you're presumably discussing a US audience because nobody in Japan cares about that poo poo. I do wonder why they've never released Yo Son Goku over here
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Mar 18, 2024 22:19
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ImpAtom posted:I think you're assuming games matter to people a lot more than they did.
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Mar 18, 2024 22:21
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Endorph posted:op i dont know how to tell you this but dragon ball heroes came out in 2010, is still running, and has made literally a billion dollars. basically the entire arcade scene in japan was completely reorganized around it. bamco's entire business model changed because of it. it led directly to them creating entire franchises like aikatsu. so no i dont think dbza was more important than the video games. As I said before I assume this discussion is about the US market, not Japan, because there is nobody in Japan who cares about DBZA in any fashion that isn't some random lawyer at Toei side-eying it during the daily "do we need to issue a copyright takedown" check. Like if anyone wants to pretend DBZA mattered at all to Japan then lol. I don't even think it was that important to the US market, but at very least it had some impact compared to the none at all it did in Japan.
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Mar 18, 2024 22:24
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sure but at that point what are you even talking about? they're a japanese company, if the IP's alive in japan they're gonna keep it going in america. its dragon ball, if you toss new dragon ball stuff at americans they'll bite. db super would have been a huge hit with or without dbza. fighterz would have sold millions with or without dbza. at what point does it do anything? like its' weird to say 'we're only talking about america' when talking about a japanese thing. it never had any impact on what they did with it and what they did with it was popular and revitalized it.
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Mar 18, 2024 22:27
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Endorph posted:op i dont know how to tell you this but dragon ball heroes came out in 2010, is still running, and has made literally a billion dollars. basically the entire arcade scene in japan was completely reorganized around it. bamco's entire business model changed because of it. it led directly to them creating entire franchises like aikatsu. so no i dont think dbza was more important than the video games. (wistfully) i wish america had a big arcades scene so i could play dragon ball heroes
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Mar 18, 2024 22:30
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:(wistfully) i wish america had a big arcades scene so i could play dragon ball heroes
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Mar 18, 2024 22:31
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Super Dragon Ball Heroes: World Mission on switch is a direct port of it also
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Mar 18, 2024 22:32
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Endorph posted:sure but at that point what are you even talking about? they're a japanese company, if the IP's alive in japan they're gonna keep it going in america. its dragon ball, if you toss new dragon ball stuff at americans they'll bite. db super would have been a huge hit with or without dbza. fighterz would have sold millions with or without dbza. at what point does it do anything? I think we're discussing different things at this point. I've at no point said that DBZA was responsible for anything. I just said that there was, in fact, a notable period in the US fandom where it wasn't getting new stuff the way Japan was. (I Also said DBZA had SOME impact but like... I don't think that's wrong, the voice actors got asked to do games and did a goofy dub of the Cell Games Mr. Satan thing. It's not huge but hey, they had an impact.)
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Mar 18, 2024 22:36
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Waffleman_ posted:Yeah it was good because Toriyama was doing the story outline then explain the manga
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Mar 18, 2024 22:49
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Endorph posted:its not a very good game and neither is aikatsu but i did get to experience my like 6'2'' white dude friend patiently waiting in line for the aikatsu machine behind a 5 year old japanese girl lol
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Mar 18, 2024 23:04
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Kild posted:then explain the manga toyotaro is obsessed with power levels
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Mar 18, 2024 23:04
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the tension in the manga adaption of the universal tournament is drained away because its said repeatedly Hit stands no chance against goku because power level
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otoh he did give us ultra instinct master roshi
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