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zoux posted:Yeah the Ur myth is Gilgamesh. 
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zoux posted:I guess it doesn't really matter because I'm the only one who sees it...wait that means it extremely matters...but I loving hate this trend of replacing good cover art with movie posters. the worst. that one was part of a fine set too. 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Kinda hard to claim a "universal" story structure that Little Red Riding Hood doesn't fit into. I mean, sure, but Campbell never claimed every story fit that mold, only that the structure recurred often in human history and that basically every culture would find that structure suitable and satisfying for a story. That's the sense in which it's 'universal,' not 'every story ever told is this story.'
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Yeah, the idea is that the common appeal of the structure can be turned into Hollywood mega-millions and it's not entirely wrong (see Dan Harmon's story circle)
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fez_machine posted:Yeah, the idea is that the common appeal of the structure can be turned into Hollywood mega-millions and it's not entirely wrong (see Dan Harmon's story circle) Yeah, Campbell more managed to find *a* repeatable story structure rather than *the* universal story structure. But he sure plays fast and loose with a lot of stuff in the process.
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I grew up with these Dune covers and they're still my favorites: The modern paperbacks are fine, I guess, but kind of boring (though better than the movie tie-in ones).
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zoux posted:Yeah the Ur myth is Gilgamesh. Inanna says "bite me".
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AARD VARKMAN posted:It's long and incomplete but I really enjoyed The Spiral Wars by Joel Shepherd, 8 books in.
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Mar 19, 2024 22:41
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The Two of Sword: Volume Three by KJ Parker - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y5K2CK2/
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Lord Hydronium posted:I grew up with these Dune covers and they're still my favorites: I keep seeing the bottom three books as the Vince McMahon meme
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Is anyone reading Jumpnauts by Hao Jingfang? The description looked interesting!quote:In a future where the world is roughly divided into two factions, the Pacific League of Nations and the Atlantic Division of Nations, tensions are high as each side waits for the other to make a move. But neither side is prepared for a powerful third party that has apparently been an influential presence on Earth for thousands of years—and just might be making a reappearance very soon.
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Lord Hydronium posted:I grew up with these Dune covers and they're still my favorites: Same. My dad owns these and I read them all when I was 15. They will always be THE Dune covers for me
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I’m gonna make a run of Dune covers where the worm just gets longer each time
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Tiny Timbs posted:I’m gonna make a run of Dune covers where the worm just gets longer each time this is also the plot of god emperor of dune edit: also part of the plot for the last half of children of dune
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RoboCicero posted:Is anyone reading Jumpnauts by Hao Jingfang? The description looked interesting! I am. It's ok, not great. Prose is workmanlike, characters are kind of one-dimensional. Ted Liu's footnotes on Chinese culture and literature are some of the most interesting bits. Sometimes it feels a little but like the action bits written by somebody who grew up on Saturday morning cartoons and they've only got that shallow well to draw on.
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The first time I read Dune it was a copy out of my high school library that had the original cover art: 
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PriorMarcus posted:What's a good guide for someone wanting to get into Wild Cards? Read everything with Croyd in it, especially the Zelazny, and just kinda let everything else go.
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Remulak posted:Don't follow his xTwitter, I lost all interest in reading anything he writes. Not a nazi, just a mushbrained Modi and Musk apologist. me too, literally from his poo poo takes on anything musk, AI, futurism, social equity.
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zoux posted:
Contrariwise I would absolutely buy a copy of Dune that has an AGAIN A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE cover
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Use of Weapons (Culture #3) by Iain M Banks - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015DWLTE/ Altered Carbon (Takeshi Kovacs #1) by Richard K Morgan - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FBFMZ2/
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Ian Bank's The Wasp Factory $2.99 Not genre but supposed to be quite good. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...02-e3acdd381818
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quantumfoam posted:Glen Cook outside of his Black Company stories really isn't that great or clever, at least for me. Glen Cook's writing style and prose is much too "urban" for me, at least in The Black Company - I don't think you need to use contemporary language to make the story seem grittier but I am aware that is what he was going for. I've heard that Tower of Fear is worth a read, though.
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dubLEs posted:I've heard that Tower of Fear is worth a read, though. I certainly thought so.
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dubLEs posted:Glen Cook's writing style and prose is much too "urban" for me, at least in The Black Company - I don't think you need to use contemporary language to make the story seem grittier but I am aware that is what he was going for. I've heard that Tower of Fear is worth a read, though. "urban" ?????????????
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fez_machine posted:"urban" 
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fez_machine posted:"urban" maybe thatsthejoke but "urban fantasy" seems to commonly mean "set in contemporary times" so I can kind of see the usage if you set aside any other definition of "urban"
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Urban fantasy is like VTM or Supernatural
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Oh ok I'll tell my dog to stop barking
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quantumfoam posted:Glen Cook outside of his Black Company stories really isn't that great or clever, at least for me. Let me agree with all of this except the conclusion and say that the first few Garrett PI books are great even if they are clearly following Rex Stout beat for beat.
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it means it has biker werewolves that gently caress in it
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thotsky posted:it means it has biker werewolves that gently caress in it
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thotsky posted:it means it has biker werewolves that gently caress in it Like digimon
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thotsky posted:it means it has biker werewolves that gently caress in it That's paranormal romance If they don't gently caress that's urban fantasy
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Remulak posted:Ian Bank's The Wasp Factory $2.99 I've read that, it's quite good. It's also pretty hosed up. CW, iirc, child with severe gender issues, body horror, insect torture.
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Rabbit murder too also clock trauma
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Very good book, occasionally wish I never read it E: One could say it... bugs me
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RIP to Vernor Vinge, may he be read by generations to come.
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FPyat posted:RIP to Vernor Vinge, may he be read by generations to come. Whaaat! That singularly sucks. You sure he's not just in a time bubble?
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StumblyWumbly posted:Very good book, occasionally wish I never read it booo but also lol
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mllaneza posted:I've read that, it's quite good. It's also pretty hosed up. CW, iirc, child with severe gender issues, body horror, insect torture. I have a paperback of this from the early 90s (so about a decade after it came out). As is customary, it has a bunch of quotes from reviewers on the inside of the cover; as is less customary, only about half of them are like "A strong debut novel from a promising young writer" while the other half are all "This is sick filth and what sad times are these when a formerly reputable publishing house puts its name on something like this; the author needs to have his head examined". And then. There was one. Which went like "This is completely mid and unremarkable and kind of boring". I always WONDERED about that last reviewer.
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