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I bet Pitts is gonna bounce back hard this year. Look what he did as a rookie with Ryan throwing to him. Then he got stuck with Art being tricky and Mariota + Ridder throwing nonsense in his direction for the few targets he got. Plus a nasty injury... Hopefully that's all resolved now.
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One less free agent WR.... https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1770978683571831089 Stuck in PS purgatory on the Bills for two and a half seasons until he finally gets a break with the Giants. Despite being their WR touchdown leader since then, he had the indignity of them turning down his RFA tender and presumably the whole market not being interested in his services, and going back to the Giants on what must be a cheap deal....
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Arizona should trade #4 to Minnesota for Justin Jefferson. That would be a fun one.
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wandler20 posted:Arizona should trade #4 to Minnesota for Justin Jefferson. That would be a fun one. What else does Arizona have to give up?
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Yeah when you start throwing Jefferson into the mix things get interesting. He's said he wants to play with a reliable quarterback, I guess the question is if he's going to be happy with a rookie or not.
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a neat cape posted:What else does Arizona have to give up? A $30m a year contract to JJ.
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They’d be insane to trade JJ, I don’t get why he is constantly the subject of trade rumors. I guess if he pitches a fit and holds out you could think about it. Even if you get 3 firsts or something, what are the odds that any of those picks develop into a player close to as good as Jefferson?
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Docjowles posted:They’d be insane to trade JJ, I don’t get why he is constantly the subject of trade rumors. I guess if he pitches a fit and holds out you could think about it. Even if you get 3 firsts or something, what are the odds that any of those picks develop into a player close to as good as Jefferson? I think at that point you’re accepting you won’t replace him but instead of having 1 A+ player you may end up with 3B+ with upside? It’s a dumb gamble but it happens.
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Docjowles posted:They’d be insane to trade JJ, I don’t get why he is constantly the subject of trade rumors. I guess if he pitches a fit and holds out you could think about it. Even if you get 3 firsts or something, what are the odds that any of those picks develop into a player close to as good as Jefferson? Probably because Minnesota hasn't gotten a deal done with him yet. Then again twitter GMs have already decided Harbaugh is trading herbert so he can draft JJ, so maybe I'm just a dipshit
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mcmagic posted:The whole Kyle Pitts saga makes me nervous about taking Bowers in the top 10. It's been proven that taking a TE really high almost never ends up being worth it anyway so I'd be nervous too.
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Also Minnesota recently traded a number 1 WR at his peak for a first round pick (which they used on Jefferson). Jefferson is better than Diggs though so it would be a silly move. Just give him the bag and get it over with
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Rogue Elephant posted:Also Minnesota recently traded a number 1 WR at his peak for a first round pick (which they used on Jefferson). a number 1 WR at his peak who very publicly wanted out because he hated the head coach context is important! Both sides are saying all the right things in this case so it still feels like a matter of when not if but it won't surprise me if they do end up trading Jefferson even if I'd say the odds are more likely that they'll get an extension done.
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No Butt Stuff posted:I think at that point you’re accepting you won’t replace him but instead of having 1 A+ player you may end up with 3B+ with upside? Yeah I see this logic, I just disagree with it. At least when it comes to one of the very best players in the league at any position. The handful of guys who can singlehandedly win games every week have such outsized value. You can't add 2+2+2 and get 10.
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I actually didn't remember that part of it, I'm not sure I was ever aware of it ![]()
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Rogue Elephant posted:I just remember being baffled that they traded Diggs only to use the pick on a different WR
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Rogue Elephant posted:I actually didn't remember that part of it, I'm not sure I was ever aware of it
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Diva Cupcake posted:The Titans did this with AJ Brown and ended up with Treylon Burks. Womp womp. ![]()
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I don't think the MIN front office is stupid enough to get fleeced but we'll see. I would prefer not see them give up a future 1st to move up, they should have enough ammo now. They just need to be willing to walk away from a deal which will keep a team like the Pats from getting too greedy. Maybe the Raiders will sell it all to move up, they always seem to make a ![]()
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Docjowles posted:They’d be insane to trade JJ, I don’t get why he is constantly the subject of trade rumors. I guess if he pitches a fit and holds out you could think about it. Even if you get 3 firsts or something, what are the odds that any of those picks develop into a player close to as good as Jefferson? Well they traded Diggs and drafted JJ...
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wandler20 posted:Arizona should trade #4 to Minnesota for Justin Jefferson. That would be a fun one. ....No? Why would AZ want that? JJ is without a doubt a transcendent player but they're playing for poo poo right now and would rather take the safest WR prospect in ages to offset the $60 million they're paying linemen. E: before the cap isn't real crowd chime in, the Cardinals are cheap as gently caress
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Diggs wanted out, if JJ still wants in I don't know why the hell the Vikings wouldn't keep him unless they're that loving desperate for a QB (which, they do have Addison at least, but giving a rookie QB him and JJ would be a boon of a transition process). I think the top 4 should stay put. Chargers, it depends on whether they value Nabers over whatever haul they're offered for 5. I feel the Giants are the big wild card here, they get mocked WR a lot but they're so loving bad everywhere and are generally so incompetent no draft decision or trade would surprise me here.
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There's scuttlebutt that Nabers is higher on some boards than MHJ, I don't necessarily believe it but Nabers going at 5 wouldn't be a shock to me.
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BlindSite posted:There's scuttlebutt that Nabers is higher on some boards than MHJ, I don't necessarily believe it but Nabers going at 5 wouldn't be a shock to me. I don’t think Nabers going at 5 would shock anyone, seems like he gets mocked to the Chargers pretty often.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I thought it really funny that they did that because the last time they did it (Moss to Oakland) it... did not work out. The actual last time they did it (Harvin to Seattle) it also did not work out because they drafted a receiver who could not run routes but was the best kick returner of all time.
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Vando posted:The actual last time they did it (Harvin to Seattle) it also did not work out because they drafted a receiver who could not run routes but was the best kick returner of all time. ![]()
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I don’t think Nabers going at 5 would shock anyone, seems like he gets mocked to the Chargers pretty often. Yeah, if no trades up happen, both Cardinals and Chargers will/should be taking the two best WRs.
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Mystic Stylez posted:Even if you are giving picks for the right to pay him a lot, I doubt Sneed doesn't fetch more than a 3rd, dude should've been an all-pro last season and has a great career look at this dumb motherfucker
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https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1771369568109273229?s=46&t=GxZoSKgPzb_-zyUnvLFKvg
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Ran Carthon…that brother is cooking
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a 3rd and a 7th round pick "flop" seems to be more than a 3rd
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Scott foster thoughtfully fingers his whistle.
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Not great compensation
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Cavauro posted:a 3rd and a 7th round pick "flop" seems to be more than a 3rd 2025 3rd at that
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future third is worth a present fourth. or a present fifth if it's a double future third, depends on how you math
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Not getting a pick this year when going for the threepeat is weird. I am curious how Sneed was asking for. Also wtf are chiefs doing with this cap space now?
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Calidus posted:Not getting a pick this year when going for the threepeat is weird. I am curious how Sneed was asking for. Also wtf are chiefs doing with this cap space now? Rumors were he wanted 4y/88m and significant guarantees. I’d assume they either go get some bargain bin free agents to fill out the line. Maybe sign Mike Danna again. Gotta find an LT still. Or they go ahead and extend some guys who are coming due.
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https://twitter.com/rotoworld_fb/status/1771532106092666975?s=46
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i was expecting this rebuild for the titans to take more than one offseason but good gracious so much has improved and we’re not even to the draft yet. the titans have literally never had this kind of offseason with so many acquisitions, much less of actual relevant players. carthon really out there spinning it while vrabel wanted to hire a second boss for him lol.
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 16:41 |
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$55 million guaranteed over 4 years doesn’t sound terrible
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