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haveblue posted:This is the bulk of the order that CNN linked to: so what he just dicks around begging for another 10 days? why is he aloud to lead corps again?
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He says he had 500 mil cash on hand yeah? And he doesn't have 175 mil, would struggle to raise a tenth of that, yeah? Ten more days :/
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Mar 25, 2024 16:50
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Mar 25, 2024 16:55
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"Mr Trump, you are hereby ordered to post bond by the time I count to three or we start seizing assets. One, Two... ...two and a half... ...two...and three quarters..."
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Uglycat posted:He says he had 500 mil cash on hand yeah? Yeah, I'm wondering if James can submit a response pointing out that he claims he has the whole amount. I am getting genuinely disgusted by the absolute inability of the legal system to impose any consequences at all.
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Mar 25, 2024 16:58
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Next time a Democrat says "we are a nation of laws" you can walk up and give them a wedgie because they are dead loving wrong.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:so what he just dicks around begging for another 10 days? why is he aloud to lead corps again? "Ah well, nevertheless"
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Dapper_Swindler posted:so what he just dicks around begging for another 10 days? why is he aloud to lead corps again? None of the other courts are imposing consequences. Therefore, it would be partisan (and racist) and a violation of precedence and norms to enforce any legal judgement.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:10
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What if they wheeled out the Madame? Not as a threat, just, you know, as a possible option to keep in mind.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:11
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Can james file to contest that or is NY one of those states where the court of appeals is actually the Supreme court Yes, the highest NYS court is the Court of Appeals, and the NYS Supreme Court is just a trial court that hears cases that don't fall under other courts' jurisdictions.  Doesn't the NYS law require the court to take 110% of the judgement amount before Trump is allowed to appeal, with no discretion on the part of the judge? Can't James just get a writ of mandamus? Fuschia tude fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Mar 25, 2024 |
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Mar 25, 2024 17:14
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Just give him the first civil death penalty it's not like laws are real.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:16
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I don't know why any businesses follow the law, to be honest. It seems like a pointless competitive disadvantage
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Mar 25, 2024 17:17
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If the punishment for a crime does not meet or exceed the benefit of doing said crime, then it's just "cost of doing business."
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Mar 25, 2024 17:19
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lol awesome trump wanders into court and is handed a form "do you want to be punished? check one: no extra no the judge stares extra hard at the form for 5 minutes, apologizes to trump for wasting his time, and allows him to leave somewhere in a far away forum someone is screamed at because "that's not how it works!! trump CAN'T wiggle out of this one!!"
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Mar 25, 2024 17:20
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Lemming posted:I don't know why any businesses follow the law, to be honest. It seems like a pointless competitive disadvantage Not every business is run by Donald Trump. It’s not that businesses are immune to legal consequence, it’s that Donald Trump specifically seems immune to consequence, and his businesses exist within his area of effect.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:20
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$150 million seems a bargain to a billionaire who wants leverage over the next President. Also the court stayed the effort to prevent his sons from being executives of his organization.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:20
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Hush money trial starts April 15. Guardian: quote:New York judge rules Trump hush money case can start on 15 April
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Kestral posted:Not every business is run by Donald Trump. It’s not that businesses are immune to legal consequence, it’s that Donald Trump specifically seems immune to consequence, and his businesses exist within his area of effect. I doubt this a lot. The only reason he's facing the potential(lol) of consequences is he's Donald Trump and wanted to be president and brag about how many crimes he does. He never would have been charged otherwise
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DTurtle posted:Hush money trial starts April 15. Did they start picking the jury today or not
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Did they start picking the jury today or not
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Mar 25, 2024 17:23
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If he isn't able to come up with the 175 in 10 days does the court go back to seizing half a billion of stuff, or is it pegged to the 175 while the appeals are ongoing? Also this seems like it is setting precedent that the NY law of requiring a bond to stay appeal seizures could be overturned/restricted by other plaintiffs in the future due to this ruling. Then again "When we wrote this law we didn't think someone could crime so hard to have half a billion at stake".
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Mar 25, 2024 17:25
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Legal precedent is loving dead and anyone still clinging to it have already lost (on appeal).
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KillHour posted:What motivation could the court possibly have to do that? Like, what is the reasoning here? If he's going to appeal either way, the court would actually prefer for him to be able to pay the bond and delay the seizures, since that's less trouble for everyone if he somehow wins the appeal. The Trump team claimed that he'd be able to pay the bond if it was a bit smaller, and so the judge is giving them one chance to prove it. Besides, in general, judges don't like unusually high financial barriers (and by "unusually high", I mean "relative to what most other people in similar situations face", not "relative to their ability to pay"). While a bond size of half a billion dollars isn't completely unprecedented, it's something generally associated with big multinationals like Samsung, not a relatively small company like the Trump Organization. And, most importantly, it's fairly difficult to argue that he won't have sufficient skin in the game with a $175 million bond - especially given how hard he's struggling to scrape together the cash for it.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:27
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in 10 days the court will rule that we all owe donald trump one hundred dollars each for wasting his time
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aventari posted:It sucks but I am not expecting any kind of property seizure to start next week. The most likely thing is an extension from the court because rich, powerful people deserve a break. *sigh* I'm so loving tired of how predicatable this bullshit is
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Donkringel posted:If he isn't able to come up with the 175 in 10 days does the court go back to seizing half a billion of stuff, or is it pegged to the 175 while the appeals are ongoing? If he can't come up with it, it means it was too much, which means they should reduce the amount since it'd clearly be unfair (and too much work to enforce, really), which would require another extension
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Mar 25, 2024 17:32
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Lemming posted:If he can't come up with it, it means it was too much, which means they should reduce the amount since it'd clearly be unfair (and too much work to enforce, really), which would require another extension Zeno's penalty
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Mar 25, 2024 17:33
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Lemming posted:If he can't come up with it, it means it was too much, which means they should reduce the amount since it'd clearly be unfair (and too much work to enforce, really), which would require another extension Pay no attention to his public statements
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https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1772301520228216985
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It's not all bad news though. https://x.com/lawofruby/status/1772292008888963201?s=20 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, I'm wondering if James can submit a response pointing out that he claims he has the whole amount. The US legal system is working as it was designed. It fucks over the poor and protect the rich.
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Mar 25, 2024 17:42
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If he's unable to pay even the lowered bond that would be goddam hilarious
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Mar 25, 2024 17:42
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BDawg posted:It's not all bad news though. 1: Trump Org is hosed 2: Don't enforce the loving just yet
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Mar 25, 2024 17:42
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Ah! Well. Nevertheless,
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BDawg posted:It's not all bad news though. I'm not a lawyer, but the order to me really seems to be saying the opposite of this: quote:It is ordered that the motion is granted to the extent of staying enforcement of those portions of the Judgment [...] barring defendant Donald J. Trump and the corporate defendants from applying for loans from New York financial institutions for three years What am I missing?
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Huh, weird, he just said he has more than 500 million in cash but well I guess what people directly say themselves of their own volition doesn't apply in rich people court, all that poo poo is for the little people. Better give him another extension and reduce the costs a bit more. Wouldn't want him to be able to say on appeal, "Well they were really mean to me and I don't like what they did." That's a powerful defense for a certain type of defendant apparently.
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BDawg posted:It's not all bad news though. i thought engoron had already stayed the portion of his ruling that barred bank loans
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Yea I think Lisa is reading that entirely backwards. They stayed the part where he can't work with NY banks.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i thought engoron had already stayed the portion of his ruling that barred bank loans He did
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