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Stultus Maximus posted:My first ship was an Austin class. We all had mini maglites on our belts and barely shrugged when we went dark, it was so frequent. Andrew Tate says it was a cyberattack through and Alex Jones agrees and thinks it's because WW3 has already started. I know this from X, the everything app.
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facialimpediment posted:Andrew Tate says it was a cyberattack through and Alex Jones agrees and thinks it's because WW3 has already started. I know this from X, the everything app.  It's Joe Biden cramming the green new deal down our throats causing the power grid to collapse.
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facialimpediment posted:Andrew Tate says it was a cyberattack through and Alex Jones agrees and thinks it's because WW3 has already started. I know this from X, the everything app. Has anyone checked in on Alex Jones' neighbors. Stultus Maximus posted:America the Beautiful is the superior national anthem. Not a chance but even if so Solidarity Forever is a better tune than even that
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facialimpediment posted:Andrew Tate says it was a cyberattack through and Alex Jones agrees and thinks it's because WW3 has already started. I know this from X, the everything app. loving Jones, that guy just needs to stroke on out beet juice dick pills already. He's just being an attention economy remora latching himself on to any story he can find like usual, dude's getting super desperate lately. Listening to him come apart at the seams on Knowledge Fight has been a balm to my soul. 50/50 at any point on air whether he's totally sloshed or riding the uppers train, and if he's not the episode is usually a spiral into rage or depression if he bothers to make it on air at all. Couldn't happen to a nicer rear end in a top hat.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Well there's one less thing now
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Evil SpongeBob posted:Looks like the ship went dark twice before hitting the structure. First time is EDG coming on, thats just emergency lighting. Lots of smoke coming from stack so either they tried to back down or lit off another DG. Wonder if they lost power the second time trying to switch back from emergency to main.
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 Yeah, that's a total loss. Reminds me a lot of the Sunshine Skyway bridge across Tampa Bay in Florida, the original bridge was destroyed by a freighter colliding with it in 1980, leading to the construction of a new, much sturdier bridge across the bay.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Do bollards for boats exist? How much concrete and steel sunk into the port seabed would it take to stop a cargo ship drifting without power? I'm not sure how this would work but you would also need magical lines to go along with your magical bollards.
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I'm sure you could build something like that but would there be a risk of it sinking after hitting one? I guess if it was high enough it might impact far above the waterline
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Do bollards for boats exist? How much concrete and steel sunk into the port seabed would it take to stop a cargo ship drifting without power? more than this 
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How do you even trust an engineering evaluation of the remaining structure? Even if it didn't collapse it still took a massive load in a direction it was totally unprepared for (excellent phrasing)
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Cythereal posted:
gently caress me. Thank goodness it happened in the middle of the night and not rush hour.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Do bollards for boats exist? How much concrete and steel sunk into the port seabed would it take to stop a cargo ship drifting without power? My friends wife is a civil engineer and she's been getting texts all morning asking "why don't they design the pier to withstand container ship impacts?". Her answer is that then the bridge would be a dam.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:gently caress me. Thank goodness it happened in the middle of the night and not rush hour. There was also a factor, which explains why I saw all that traffic suddenly stopping in the video: https://twitter.com/betsy_klein/status/1772629372421238927?t=Cmhwv72bTsl_4c06CBMR3w&s=19
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Soylent Pudding posted:My friends wife is a civil engineer and she's been getting texts all morning asking "why don't they design the pier to withstand container ship impacts?". Her answer is that then the bridge would be a dam. Let's test it on the Kerch
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Pine Cone Jones posted:Any confirmation on body recoveries or actual rescues yet? https://www.fox5dc.com/news/francis-scott-key-bridge-baltimore-collapse I saw 2 rescues and 7 missing in another headline, but couldn't find it scrolling back
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Pine Cone Jones posted:Any confirmation on body recoveries or actual rescues yet? CNN had a presser that said two rescued, six missing. bad_fmr posted:Sshhhiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettt I'm having trouble finding the clip where McNulty trolls Rawls and Landsman by pinning the murders on their side of the bridge.
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facialimpediment posted:There was also a factor, which explains why I saw all that traffic suddenly stopping in the video: Well drat, someone got to go home knowing they saved a lot of lives.
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Soylent Pudding posted:My friends wife is a civil engineer and she's been getting texts all morning asking "why don't they design the pier to withstand container ship impacts?". Her answer is that then the bridge would be a dam. The bridge was built in 1977. Design standards have changed quite considerably especially after 9/11.
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CBJSprague24 posted:I'm having trouble finding the clip where McNulty trolls Rawls and Landsman by pinning the murders on their side of the bridge. Here's the whole drat thing: https://youtu.be/K0t98Dod98g?si=IXkyv1OdsrfvooBO
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Tiny Timbs posted:How do you even trust an engineering evaluation of the remaining structure? Even if it didn't collapse it still took a massive load in a direction it was totally unprepared for (excellent phrasing) If you had any idea of the amount of poo poo we over-design for it would blow your mind. CBJSprague24 posted:I'm having trouble finding the clip where McNulty trolls Rawls and Landsman by pinning the murders on their side of the bridge. Honestly one of my favorite Wire moments. SquirrelyPSU fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Mar 26, 2024 |
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Amazing that they were able to get two survivors so far, that's a hell of a distance to drop.
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Terrifying Effigies posted:Amazing that they were able to get two survivors so far, that's a hell of a distance to drop. That's two more than I expected they'd find.
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Two survivors getting rescued in time and the emergency response being fast enough to prevent additional vehicles on the bridge are both reminders that people make a difference and I shouldn't be as cynical all the time.
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Hannibal Rex posted:Two survivors getting rescued in time and the emergency response being fast enough to prevent additional vehicles on the bridge are both reminders that people make a difference and I shouldn't be as cynical all the time.  Also  but  https://twitter.com/MolotovFlicker/status/1772531869155770480/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1772531869155770480¤tTweetUser=MolotovFlicker
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SquirrelyPSU posted:The bridge was built in 1977. Design standards have changed quite considerably especially after 9/11. Vessels have changed significantly. The Dali is only 10000 TEUs but its hard to get a good perspective with how big everything is now.
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Handsome Ralph posted:
It’s my right to drive out onto a potentially unstable bridge during rescue operations so that I can get a tiktok clip
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Soylent Pudding posted:My friends wife is a civil engineer and she's been getting texts all morning asking "why don't they design the pier to withstand container ship impacts?". Her answer is that then the bridge would be a dam. But based on the pictures, it looks like it did stop the boat. Obviously with the bridge suffering catastrophic damage in the process, but then wouldn't a row of concrete supports/cables in front of the non-passable parts of a bridge prevent this sort of accident? Then again, not like this sort of thing happens on a regular basis and that wouldn't be cheap to install.
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lightpole posted:First time is EDG coming on, thats just emergency lighting. Lots of smoke coming from stack so either they tried to back down or lit off another DG. Wonder if they lost power the second time trying to switch back from emergency to main. It's also possible that they were trying anything they could think of to restore steerage. In that kind of emergency I would.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:But based on the pictures, it looks like it did stop the boat. Obviously with the bridge suffering catastrophic damage in the process, but then wouldn't a row of concrete supports/cables in front of the non-passable parts of a bridge prevent this sort of accident? Then again, not like this sort of thing happens on a regular basis and that wouldn't be cheap to install. No. That's the short answer.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:But based on the pictures, it looks like it did stop the boat. Obviously with the bridge suffering catastrophic damage in the process, but then wouldn't a row of concrete supports/cables in front of the non-passable parts of a bridge prevent this sort of accident? Then again, not like this sort of thing happens on a regular basis and that wouldn't be cheap to install. There's two issues with anything that could arrest the momentum of a drifting container ship. 1. It be big. 2. The bigger it is, the more there is to hit, making it even harder to pass the bridge. A lot of ships need to pass, which turns this into a statistics game. The ship safety option is to build it taller with much longer spans making as wide a channel as possible underneath. That, is a whole different order of problems and maintenance and cost
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:It's also possible that they were trying anything they could think of to restore steerage. In that kind of emergency I would. Given assumptions would be they have done at least the minimum to conform to IMO which means EDG tested on load that month, both steering units tested for operation within 12 hours of sailing, EDG automatic transfer tested. Once the EDG came on they should have steering on at least one unit and propulsion using one set of pumps. I've never recovered from a blackout like that or tried to maneuver on the E Bus so I have no idea how seamless that would work. They would have rudder control once the lights come on but without propulsion they will lose it. Fuel, LO, JW pumps should all come on with e power, they should have more than enough air for 1 start. So it would be more about getting the engine to roll which mostly means clearing the automation.
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Yeah. We're all just guessing. I think we can both agree that it's the nightmare scenario we've all dreaded many a time.
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Yeah noone practices something like that. Its hard enough to get just basic engine side training. They are right on top of the bridge already and had like <5 minutes to correct. Clearing all the alarms they would get would take longer than that. Just EDG coming on is 30 secs. They would need a steering unit, x-head LO, MELO, diesel pump, HT/LT JW, and an aux blower to do it correctly but also should be able to cancel permissives and run just diesel. Should start as long as they have fuel pressure. I would struggle to get a start in under 5 minutes in those conditions if I wasn't familiar with the automation. gently caress that.
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