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I love Joe but it was least 5-8 years too late for him to be a world champ. He had his time and he was never that big of a star to merit a world title reign at this point. Add to that he spent a good bit of 2023 jobbing to Punk and others. Just didn't make much sense to me story wise. I would have had Darby take the title from MJF. You needed someone young and different and with real heat behind them.
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UnleashedDad posted:I love Joe but it was least 5-8 years too late for him to be a world champ. He had his time and he was never that big of a star to merit a world title reign at this point. Add to that he spent a good bit of 2023 jobbing to Punk and others. Just didn't make much sense to me story wise. I would have had Darby take the title from MJF. You needed someone young and different and with real heat behind them. Almost said this was lunacy but I checked the thread. Joe rules, but if you wanted a different champ after MJF I don't think it's Darby. I'm trying to think who'd I'd pick outside of Joe, though. Maybe Jay White? Swerve was only heating up but I could see him as a dark horse. Both guys were in the continental tourney tho so no dice. I guess my pick is Evil Uno. gently caress it
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It’s a shame when the Regular thread and the Hell thread are all just bad ideas and opinions!
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UnleashedDad posted:I love Joe but it was least 5-8 years too late for him to be a world champ. He had his time and he was never that big of a star to merit a world title reign at this point. Add to that he spent a good bit of 2023 jobbing to Punk and others. Just didn't make much sense to me story wise. I would have had Darby take the title from MJF. You needed someone young and different and with real heat behind them. i dont agree with any of this.
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post hole digger posted:i dont agree with any of this.
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We have moved past the need for a Hell Thread. We can now be wrong in every thread!
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This is the regular thread.
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Nea posted:Joe's reign was perfectly fine but like, no five star matches, which was a shame. Joe never has a BAD match and his aura is impeccably cool, so it was mostly fine but i was a little bit dissapointed. if we're being honest with ourselves every world title reign has sucked since Omega. The only one where anything memorable happened was with MJF's run and most people didn't exactly love that one. Hangman was a dud, then there was the Punk messes. Nothing memorable happened in Mox or Joe's runs. The state of it. gently caress me. On The Internet posted:Almost said this was lunacy but I checked the thread. Jay White should have won it from MJF the second he walked into the company.
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Apr 30, 2024 00:48
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there's never a wrong time to put the belt on Joe
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Stanley Tweedle posted:there's never a wrong time to put the belt on Joe
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Even I think Joe was the right choice, just a bad run
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now that joe isn't champ i wanna see him wrestle ospreay and okada
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Okay, I'm playing catch up with the AEW and saw the Tony spot. Now, I understand the neck brace and the memes and commitment to the bit. But, uh.... I'm still very confused. I thought Tony said he wasn't going to be on camera unless it's for actual important announcements, like a new title, PPV, show, or things like the Brodie tribute. And when you consider the latest storyline involving bucks and ftr and the returning jungle boy involve the punk insistent and Tony Khan saying "I feared for my life, so I fired Phil Brooks" Some of those AEW fans that followed because "they are going to put logic back in wrestling" might get confused why one is okay and not the other obviously, it's a TV show, logic holes happen all the time in wrestling. So why doesn't TK just fire Matthew and Nicholas Jackson and figure out how to not make this show feel like those awkward years of TNA where Dixie Carter shows up and goes through a table and begs for Hogan to come back and he leaves to go back to WWE.
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TelevisedInsanity posted:Okay, I'm playing catch up with the AEW and saw the Tony spot. It's because Tony is panicking because the ratings are in the toilet and they need to get a big tv deal within the next 6 months or the company is toast. So it's throw everything at the wall time. Wait till he gets real desperate in late summer and joins the Elite as a heel authority figure.
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TelevisedInsanity posted:Okay, I'm playing catch up with the AEW and saw the Tony spot. My honest answer to this is things change. Tony 100 percent said he wasn't going to be an onscreen character. And I imagine in his mind he still isn't because he is doing a blur the line kind of angle. I'm more than willing to let it play out because so far I've enjoyed what I've seen. And just because AEW does a thing that has been done poorly in the past doesn't mean the thing itself is bad. So I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Tony Khan can't fire The Elite because as reported in this very thread, he is dead. I also heard Dave say the same thing after the attack.
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1glitch0 posted:if we're being honest with ourselves every world title reign has sucked since Omega. The only one where anything memorable happened was with MJF's run and most people didn't exactly love that one. Hangman was a dud, then there was the Punk messes. Nothing memorable happened in Mox or Joe's runs. The state of it. gently caress me. nah hangman mox and the first few matches with MJF owned.
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A one and done where he waves, points, and takes a move is pretty whatever. They used Collision to then explicitly say you're not going to see him
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Gumball Gumption posted:A one and done where he waves, points, and takes a move is pretty whatever. They used Collision to then explicitly say you're not going to see him I mean that's what actually happened but I think we should instead imagine a world where Tony Khan replicates the Immortal Storyline so we can see a beautiful "THERrrrrE HERrrrE" sign. With Darby in the Jeff Hardy role. Raeg fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Apr 30, 2024 |
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I don't think Joe was a bad champ, cause outside of Punk they haven't had any. It just didn't feel like it was his time. He spent his entire AEW run as being the guy who people beat to get to the next level, which is perfectly fine and suited him greatly. You look at the title runs of everyone who won the title and he is on the bottom end. His most memorable match was with Hook.
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UnleashedDad posted:I don't think Joe was a bad champ, cause outside of Punk they haven't had any. It just didn't feel like it was his time. He spent his entire AEW run as being the guy who people beat to get to the next level, which is perfectly fine and suited him greatly. You look at the title runs of everyone who won the title and he is on the bottom end. His most memorable match was with Hook. In some ways Joe's win felt more like slamming the breaks on the MJF Sports Entertainment Experience rather than an full endorsement of Joe.
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Shad Khan’s onscreen war against the Elite has only just begun.
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Raeg posted:In some ways Joe's win felt more like slamming the breaks on the MJF Sports Entertainment Experience rather than an full endorsement of Joe. I'd agree with this. It felt like a righting of the ship, and Swerve actually feels like the next big homemade guy the same way Osprey feels like he's going to be the next top guy in AEW.
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Joe was a good champ because he cleared the MJF aftertaste
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1glitch0 posted:if we're being honest with ourselves every world title reign has sucked since Omega. The only one where anything memorable happened was with MJF's run and most people didn't exactly love that one. Hangman was a dud, then there was the Punk messes. Nothing memorable happened in Mox or Joe's runs. The state of it. gently caress me. hangman had two of the best title defenses in aew history imo. 1glitch0 posted:Jay White should have won it from MJF the second he walked into the company. thats facts tho
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The belt looked great on Joe, it's more that I would prefer AEW to focus on younger talent. Homemade if possible. Darby beating MJF would make sense based on the story they had going with those two.
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UnleashedDad posted:The belt looked great on Joe, it's more that I would prefer AEW to focus on younger talent. Homemade if possible. Darby beating MJF would make sense based on the story they had going with those two. The entire point of Joe's reign was to put over Swerve.
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neoaxd posted:Joe was a good champ because he cleared the MJF aftertaste Simple as, Crab. Simple as.
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There was never logic in wrestling
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joe should have pinned fools for like six months before losing the belt moving out of the way of their silly flippy poo poo the entire time because he rules
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Takeshita should be heel champ for like 2 years and destroy everyone
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Eat My Fuc posted:Takeshita should be heel champ for like 2 years and destroy everyone 
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Was there any official word on what's happening to Jack "Gut Puncher" Perry? Unless I missed it when watching Collision, that "heinous attack" on Kahn should have been addressed as quickly as Punk's if they want to keep any kind of illusion of continuity in whatever story this is going to wind up as.
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as executive vice presidents the bucks wield a large amount of executive power over decisions and as there are two of them and only one tony they will simply overrule him
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The Elite are in control now that Tony Khan has been compromised to a permanent end
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:as executive vice presidents the bucks wield a large amount of executive power over decisions and as there are two of them and only one tony they will simply overrule him This is why Kenny has to die, because as an EVP, he has the authority to create more Tonys.
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MJeff posted:This is why Kenny has to die, because as an EVP, he has the authority to create more Tonys. 
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MJeff posted:This is why Kenny has to die, because as an EVP, he has the authority to create more Tonys. he's like a gremlin alone alone in a pool house.
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