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Regular Wario posted:janeway has several holodeck programs where she kills neelix she makes him watch
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thats how neelixs feet shrunk, janeway broke them multiple times
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:really though, the only way that neelix being the sole cook for 150 people active 24 hours a day makes any sense is if they also replicated a bunch of high tech kitchen appliances to automate most of the work. Maybe there is Night Shift Negahelix and we just never see them.
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Regular Wario posted:janeway has several holodeck programs where she kills neelix One is a variant of the holodeck program where Data chokes a Borg over and over while saying "No. No. No." 
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after they were separated Tuvok now has enormous Nelix feet
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May 1, 2024 14:26
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How many lights are there, Neelix
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I love how since the last time I checked this thread like 3 more Star Treks got aired and we're still talking about Voyager. I can't with Disco, liked SNW, meh about Picard, so I also went back to the comfortable hateability of Voyager. Actually watched Blink of an Eye last night and absolutely loved it.
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computer angel posted:I love how since the last time I checked this thread like 3 more Star Treks got aired and we're still talking about Voyager. What are your thoughts on The Alamo?
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redshirt posted:What are your thoughts on The Alamo? It's easy to remember
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computer angel posted:I love how since the last time I checked this thread like 3 more Star Treks got aired and we're still talking about Voyager. I never really vibed with Voyager. Its on Picard/Disco tier for me. Well, maybe a little higher; at least I didn't regret watching Voy, I just probably won't watch it again though.
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I think Voyager introduces some really cool stuff even if the show is over all weak. It's got that going on at least.
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May 1, 2024 19:23
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Everyone hated Voyager when it came out, but then Enterprise, and the JJ movies, and Picard and Disco, and folks are like "Well, Voyager wasn't so bad, right?"
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May 1, 2024 19:40
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The biggest hump to liking Voyager is getting through the Kazon, who are as bad as early TNG Ferengi made worse because it takes 3 full seasons for them to get to the "whoops they suck rear end and nobody likes them so here are the Romulans" stage.
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voyager is a terrible show with a handful of great characters. the street fighter: the movie of star treks
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May 1, 2024 20:38
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Squiggle posted:The biggest hump to liking Voyager is getting through the Kazon, who are as bad as early TNG Ferengi made worse because it takes 3 full seasons for them to get to the "whoops they suck rear end and nobody likes them so here are the Romulans" stage. What a waste of an Aron Eisenberg guest shot too, playing a Kazon. He's good at getting my sympathy, but they could have used the man way better.
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May 1, 2024 20:39
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Squiggle posted:The biggest hump to liking Voyager is getting through the Kazon, who are as bad as early TNG Ferengi made worse because it takes 3 full seasons for them to get to the "whoops they suck rear end and nobody likes them so here are the Romulans" stage. I think the biggest hump to liking voyager is Chakotay.
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CainFortea posted:I think the biggest hump to liking voyager is Chakotay. He couldn't even get humped after making a bathtub for her
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CainFortea posted:I think the biggest hump to liking voyager is Chakotay. There was quite a bit of Chakotay during the Kazon era (sperm jacked!) and then he was basically irrelevant to the show after that, give or take a boxing episode.
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They really wanted Chakotay to be Riker. He even does cool sitting down moves a few times.
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Squiggle posted:The biggest hump to liking Voyager is getting through the Kazon, who are as bad as early TNG Ferengi made worse because it takes 3 full seasons for them to get to the "whoops they suck rear end and nobody likes them so here are the Romulans" stage. It's amazing, they could easily have stuck closer to their inspiration and made them a race of different racial caricatures of street gang members, but they DID THE WORK and over-designed them to the point where the infighting gang gimmick doesn't come across very well, and they have makeup and hair that keeps them from looking like any kind of human. So they dodged making another Ferengi, but ended up with a species that's viscerally unpleasant to look at, whose hair and forehead look like they might shatter like plaster if they bump their heads on anything.
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So I just proved I can't be trusted with my own well being and watched an entire Youtube playlist consisting of the previews for all 178 episodes of TNG (the ones that go Staaaaaar Trek) instead of sleeping. It's fun noticing all the idiosyncrasies. >If a phaser is fired in the episode it will be shown in the preview. Even if they have to show it in slow-mo to make it last. >The announcer keeps using the never-used-in-show word "Lifeforce" instead of Lifeform. >Every single problem of the week has the stakes of "but will Picard start a war?!". >There are random episodes in the latter seasons where Optimus Prime takes over announcing. >Every woman introduced is a "seductress". >Missions awkwardly phrased as a "Death Mission" >Every planet is "dying" >Q is always "The Evil Q" >They had absolutely no idea how to advertise Data's Day. >Sex Candle is advertised as a horror movie. >They keep saying "Countdown to disaster!".
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redshirt posted:Everyone hated Voyager when it came out, but then Enterprise, and the JJ movies, and Picard and Disco, and folks are like "Well, Voyager wasn't so bad, right?" Startrek is graded on a curve. Voyager was mostly bland, not actively awful. Some of it was probably the tendency to hate the new thing for not being the old thing. When TNG was new there were TOS fans that didn't like it because it wasn't TOS.
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I like that even though Voyager couldn’t do a Risa episode they were still able to squeeze in a planet with wind that makes you horny.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Startrek is graded on a curve. Voyager was mostly bland, not actively awful. Indeed. But there was a good period of time where you could compare Voyager to DS9 in real time, and they did not compare.
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Production posted:It's amazing, they could easily have stuck closer to their inspiration and made them a race of different racial caricatures of street gang members, but they DID THE WORK and over-designed them to the point where the infighting gang gimmick doesn't come across very well, and they have makeup and hair that keeps them from looking like any kind of human. So they dodged making another Ferengi, but ended up with a species that's viscerally unpleasant to look at, whose hair and forehead look like they might shatter like plaster if they bump their heads on anything. Ah the classic Voyager “have an idea that could be neat then poo poo in your own pants instead” writers room
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Wifi Toilet posted:I like that even though Voyager couldn’t do a Risa episode they were still able to squeeze in a planet with wind that makes you horny. The Gang Visits Darkover
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Facebook Aunt posted:Startrek is graded on a curve. Voyager was mostly bland, not actively awful.  I've been fascinated with this news article since it was posted ages ago. quote:The new series has an unknown British Shakespearean actor sitting in Capt. Kirk's chair on the bridge. But what has Trekkies even more upset is that the beloved Vulcan, Mr. Spock, has been replaced by a blind character who sees through robot eyes.
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I mean, Voyager has some fundamentally fail characters: Kes and Neelix for starters, that whole drama. Not very gripping and not much to hang a show on, which Voyager essentially was, right? Got stuck in this bad situation, ran into these two, have to save them....
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:
Headshots, ranked: Levar Burton Frakes Data (uncredited)
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I watch Voyager for Janeway, Tuvok, The Doctor, and Seven. Everyone else in the main cast is a total drag when they're on screen. B'lanna feels like they wanted to just have a Latina with a fiery temper but knew that wouldn't fly and threw some Klingon drapes over it.
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Voyager is given grace in retrospect because even tho it's the worst of the 90s treks, it's still a 90s trek We've suffered through some stuff that's nowhere near as good since then, and it's made Voyager a lot more palatable. But I do remember at the time it was airing, it considered the absolute worst Trek, and preferring Captain Janeway was mocked because obviously the competition for best captain was firmly between Kirk or Picard.
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TheKingslayer posted:I watch Voyager for Janeway, Tuvok, The Doctor, and Seven. Everyone else in the main cast is a total drag when they're on screen. B'lanna feels like they wanted to just have a Latina with a fiery temper but knew that wouldn't fly and threw some Klingon drapes over it. Yeah I want to like B'lanna, but nothing about her story grabs me. And I feel the same about those four characters - they are the heartbeat of the show. But Seven only shows up, what, 3, 4 seasons in?
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They should have kept Suder because Brad Dourif would have classed that cast up.
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They should have kept The Maquis/Federation vibe going for far longer.
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TheKingslayer posted:They should have kept Suder because Brad Dourif would have classed that cast up. He was in every single 90s sci fi show which I didn't realize at the time, but now rewatching Voyager or Babylon 5 or whatever, it's gotten to the point that I will, every time, whatever show or movie, excitedly shout to my wife "Look! It's Brad Dour-" "YES, I KNOW, ITS BRAD DOURIF, HE WAS IN LORD OF THE RINGS, THERE HE IS AGAIN" He makes everything better, and it's amazing how many different shows you can squeeze a "mentally compromised, conflicted sociopath" into Production posted:It's amazing, they could easily have stuck closer to their inspiration and made them a race of different racial caricatures of street gang members, but they DID THE WORK and over-designed them to the point where the infighting gang gimmick doesn't come across very well, and they have makeup and hair that keeps them from looking like any kind of human. So they dodged making another Ferengi, but ended up with a species that's viscerally unpleasant to look at, whose hair and forehead look like they might shatter like plaster if they bump their heads on anything. They're so lame, their schemes are lame, they're just the delta quad trailer park boys doing the dumbest poo poo possible and acting like they deserve respect, and they look like the aliens you have to hang out and listen to Hollywood Undead with just to buy brick weed CainFortea posted:I think the biggest hump to liking voyager is Chakotay. Fair fuckin point Squiggle fucked around with this message at 21:35 on May 1, 2024 |
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Voyager is very episodic despite the premise so it's possible to have a good episode every now and then. Picard requires you to watch an entire season.
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Endless Trash posted:There was quite a bit of Chakotay during the Kazon era (sperm jacked!) and then he was basically irrelevant to the show after that, give or take a boxing episode. Everyone had one or two episodes that were good. I mean, Nemesis is a good trek episode on it's own and it's all him.
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CainFortea posted:Everyone had one or two episodes that were good. I mean, Nemesis is a good trek episode on it's own and it's all him. I love the thesaurus people episode!
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Year of Hell, but it's just another Monday in the Delta Quadrant
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