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RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
The reason I like Ocasio Cortez has nothing to do with her stances on any given issue. I could care less. She is hot

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Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

https://x.com/jonathanchait/status/1790037611978924219
https://x.com/jonathanchait/status/1788947498767089965
https://x.com/jonathanchait/status/1789974865702772886

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011



What if ur pet issue u disagree with is like "everything he's doing" and he is behind in the polls still

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

RealityWarCriminal posted:

The reason I like Ocasio Cortez has nothing to do with her stances on any given issue. I could care less. She is hot

Meh

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites
I thought inflation was over and the economy was booming though.

Surely people aren't mad about how successful they're doing.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


PoundSand posted:

I thought inflation was over and the economy was booming though.

Surely people aren't mad about how successful they're doing.

People are tired of winning

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

I mean, glass houses but also he’s not wrong.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


PostNouveau posted:

She's right that Sisko's restaurant and Picard's vineyard are not explained, but I don't think they're mutually exclusive with a socialist utopia.

I can envision how they'd be allowed to use these properties and even put their names on them, but not how they'd STAFF these things. Who the gently caress wants to wait tables in a post-scarcity communist utopia? Are they apprenticing chefs under Papa Sisko trading lovely waiter shifts for culinary training?

I honestly think service work without the monetary need to do it, in a friendly environment, under the leadership of an extremely talented person is something a lot of people would enjoy.

It could be that Ms. Wu is very stupid???

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

"NYT posted:

“It’s going to be easy to convince people not to vote for Trump,” said Isaiah Thomas, a Democratic at-large city councilman in Philadelphia who is helping lead an effort to encourage Black men to vote in November. “It’s going to be hard to convince people to vote for Biden. Those are two totally different fights.”

Whaaaat? I was told these are actually the same thing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/18/us/politics/biden-philadelphia-black-voters.html

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012


That guy's a dumbass there's only two choices.

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Zerg Mans posted:

Shut the gently caress up you dego go chug olive oil and bathe

It's 'dago,' dumbass

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"
https://x.com/JoshGreenberg27/status/1791337045669073032

Biden is running a top-notch operation that is being undone by teens on Tiktok

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Soapy_Bumslap posted:

Fewer films involving Thomas Hanks, more reality starring Hamas Tanks

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Biden would be cruising for a landslide reelection if it weren't for all these drat opposing viewpoints!!

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Some Guy TT posted:

id never actually heard this eras biden speak on this topic before and good lord hes viler than i ever would have guessed

joe biden bad

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
strange how the democrats keep losing when they also run a perfect campaign every time

must be the fault of those dumb kids and their new gizmos

Rectal Death Alert
Apr 2, 2021

Nichael posted:

I honestly think service work without the monetary need to do it, in a friendly environment, under the leadership of an extremely talented person is something a lot of people would enjoy.

It could be that Ms. Wu is very stupid???

Yeah. I get why people have trouble with the idea of cooking or bartending for free when you account for the modern US ideal of "Service Work."

In our environment "Service Work" is that outside of the terrible conditions and long hours you have entire generations of people that eat out specifically to abuse you. The wages are literally the lowest for any legal labor that exists due to tipping culture which is the weapon these psychopaths use to poo poo all over you because you are forced to be nice so you aren't homeless. The companies you work this miserable slog for are machines that grind you down through cutting costs, manpower, salaries, ingredients or whatever else they can to save anything they can. This makes the quality worse and the populace you are forced to serve more angry. This makes the quantity of work you are doing constantly increase. Oh and as the outside material conditions of the economy deteriorating are turning the public into nutjobs who could do anything when you charge them $138 for the worlds worst microwaved dinner for 2.

Compared to

You have no obligation to do anything. You can do anything. There is nowhere you have to be or nothing you have to do. You can go mix drinks together for people and chat in a casual social setting that has no concept of exchange or currency. Part of the allure is actually doing the job, ironically. You don't have to flip the shaker over your shoulder or get drinks out to anyone fast but you are interesting if you do and you have more social credit. Also they do like one dinner service, occasionally.

FormaldehydeSon
Oct 1, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

VoicesCanBe posted:

https://x.com/JoshGreenberg27/status/1791337045669073032

Biden is running a top-notch operation that is being undone by teens on Tiktok


T*kT*k lmao someone just kill me already

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Rectal Death Alert posted:

Yeah. I get why people have trouble with the idea of cooking or bartending for free when you account for the modern US ideal of "Service Work."

In our environment "Service Work" is that outside of the terrible conditions and long hours you have entire generations of people that eat out specifically to abuse you. The wages are literally the lowest for any legal labor that exists due to tipping culture which is the weapon these psychopaths use to poo poo all over you because you are forced to be nice so you aren't homeless. The companies you work this miserable slog for are machines that grind you down through cutting costs, manpower, salaries, ingredients or whatever else they can to save anything they can. This makes the quality worse and the populace you are forced to serve more angry. This makes the quantity of work you are doing constantly increase. Oh and as the outside material conditions of the economy deteriorating are turning the public into nutjobs who could do anything when you charge them $138 for the worlds worst microwaved dinner for 2.

Compared to

You have no obligation to do anything. You can do anything. There is nowhere you have to be or nothing you have to do. You can go mix drinks together for people and chat in a casual social setting that has no concept of exchange or currency. Part of the allure is actually doing the job, ironically. You don't have to flip the shaker over your shoulder or get drinks out to anyone fast but you are interesting if you do and you have more social credit. Also they do like one dinner service, occasionally.

So basically in the strange and distant utopian future people will still host dinner parties

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

FormaldehydeSon posted:

T*kT*k lmao someone just kill me already

https://twitter.com/JoshGreenberg27/status/1791563285273415956?t=D8Womj_9sB5k9yKxjtOEqA&s=19

When things are going great except for T*kT*k

Rectal Death Alert
Apr 2, 2021

HashtagGirlboss posted:

So basically in the strange and distant utopian future people will still host dinner parties

You know how rich people claim they make their children pay for their own college or whatever? The Utopian ideal is that money is eliminated so everyone can act that way about effectively everything.

You can replicate your own sink and dishes to wash. Host parties so everyone can see your dishes and you have even more to wash. You take on the burden to be interesting. Kirk chopped wood ironically.

There are people in the future hosting giant parties just so they can wash 20 casserole dishes.

Rectal Death Alert has issued a correction as of 20:27 on May 18, 2024

Maed
Aug 23, 2006



i tried to read this drivel and holy poo poo is chait good at putting tons of words to a page that mean absolutely nothing. i kept scrolling to find any sort of point and just gave up after awhile

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

VoicesCanBe posted:

https://x.com/JoshGreenberg27/status/1791337045669073032

Biden is running a top-notch operation that is being undone by teens on Tiktok

As evidenced by this meme, the campaign is utterly perfect and would be winning handily if it weren't for memes

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

If you're curious, the people Biden is handing an L to in this meme are those loving morons who thought the Dow couldn't hit 40,000 under a business-friendly neoliberal administration

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1791228923348500730?t=ut6wqbK2F1bzvEqb79ozSQ&s=19

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

WampaLord posted:

the Auschwitz area of Germany

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Rectal Death Alert posted:

the argument isn't worth having because it's over 40+ years of random conflicting canon and lore from like 10 TV shows

So your line is from a 1980s Season 1 TNG episode back when the Utopian Ideals were establishing that everyone was enlightened, listened to string quartets, didn't fight with anyone and had grown above money

In DS9 they purchase things with money because they deal with rear end in a top hat aliens and they have a concept of wealth and currency in the amount of latinum they have

By 20th century ideals Picard/Sisko have to be owners of capital because they own large assets apparently. Not every citizen gets a vineyard in utopia

in the newer stuff earth now has an impoverished underclass that seethes with jealousy at the Picards of the world that have fancy estates

That's not true, even in Picard. It's a bad show, but Raffi is seething mostly because Picard accidently hosed her career, then she got a (space-)drugs problem, and became majorly depressed, which was compounded by the negative impacts all this had on her relationship with her son and ex-husband. She has a line about resenting his manor, but I don't know how indicative this is of much of anything, because she's generally in a bad state and justifiably angry over other things he directly and indirectly caused.

The new Star Treks seem pretty unambiguous about the no-currency, utopia thing. Prodigy is all about how the Federation is a utopian alternative to the Delta quadrant from the viewpoint of abused kids, SNW states outright there's no currency and it's a "socialist utopia," Discovery has a scene where the bad guy forces the Federation into a corner and tries to get them to embrace a market economy (and fails), and Lower Decks has Mariner again outright state there's no currency and the crew generally doesn't get how it works.


I know a lot about TV because I'm a trash person. Godbless.

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

VoicesCanBe posted:

https://x.com/JoshGreenberg27/status/1791337045669073032

Biden is running a top-notch operation that is being undone by teens on Tiktok

The democrats would be doing great if these weren’t the times that try men’s souls!! :qq:

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


ironically the federations elimination of poverty just created an elitist gift economy based around taking alien objets d'art to display on the mantlepiece

starfleet thus functions as a privileged vehicle of class mobility for people looking to acquire cool merch to show off with

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


Picard isnt an elite because he owns an estate, he's an elite because he owns a ressikan flute

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Bro Dad posted:

Picard isnt an elite because he owns an estate, he's an elite because he owns a ressikan flute

To be fair, those are uhhhh hard to come by.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

lmao at democrats getting increasingly desperate to get trump out of the race

https://x.com/ShannonBream/status/1791596006963830943

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Ytlaya posted:

It feels like things have become twisted such that the sentiment of "feeling depressed is a sickness that can be treated" is being expanded to any source of "feeling bad."

To be fair, though, I think part of it is that most people (and particularly liberals) have an axiomatic feeling that "there must be a solution to any problem someone has." If I'm being generous, this is somewhat understandable, since it's uncomfortable to tell someone "there's nothing you can do." So you always end up getting the "you should do therapy" thing, because there *must* be some sort of solution.

You see this with other topics, too. Liberals believe that engaging in US electoralism *must* be capable of creating a good future, because there aren't any other similarly painless alternatives. It's why you frequently see them resort to arguments like "well what are you doing that's working better??" if you mention voting not mattering. They basically think that "it should be possible to create a good society and future through peaceful engagement with our society's institutions" is a universal truth.

Don't forget these people get real mad if you try and connect how many people are depressed with material reality. Depression can only be caused by a chemical imbalance brought on by nature, being in a dead end job going nowhere fast has nothing to do with why you're sad and there's no alternatives

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


VoicesCanBe posted:

https://x.com/JoshGreenberg27/status/1791337045669073032

Biden is running a top-notch operation that is being undone by teens on Tiktok

what is t*kt*k

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Joe Biden doing a color revolution in Georgia before he leaves.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Nonsense posted:

Joe Biden doing a color revolution in Georgia before he leaves.

This is like a Reddit page came to life.  It is unreal, wrong, and a complete misunderstanding of the international community’s relationship to Georgia.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Nichael posted:

what is t*kt*k

Tiktaktoe, Nancy pelosis cool new app for hip zoomers

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Rectal Death Alert posted:



You have no obligation to do anything. You can do anything. There is nowhere you have to be or nothing you have to do. You can go mix drinks together for people and chat in a casual social setting that has no concept of exchange or currency. Part of the allure is actually doing the job, ironically. You don't have to flip the shaker over your shoulder or get drinks out to anyone fast but you are interesting if you do and you have more social credit. Also they do like one dinner service, occasionally.
Sisko's dad also isn't breathing down their neck constantly, and unlike the American conception of management, he actually has knowledge to impart. It's "alien" to viewers, despite the fact that literally every series explicitly explains all this, because capitalism makes our view of society and human nature wrong on purpose.

Rectal Death Alert
Apr 2, 2021

Willa Rogers posted:

lmao at democrats getting increasingly desperate to get trump out of the race

https://x.com/ShannonBream/status/1791596006963830943

What exactly do they expect to happen if they get their way and the Supreme court doesn't give him immunity? Even if these cases were able to be carried out before the election most of them would have no impact on the election. Most of these cases are just financial penalties.

The one Jack Smith is trying to charge that could go forward without the immunity is a direct attack on free speech that would have to give Trump what he wants with an investigation into the results of the 2020 election. There was a non-zero amount of nationwide complaints about the 2020 election that were never investigated so as to not question Biden's victory and now we are charging Trump saying there were no issues with the election. The sentiment on that is drastically different now. Fulton County, Georgia has had election board meetings recently where they outright admit votes were double counted and chains of custody were violated and paper ballots for some votes can't be verified. That may not be important and could be presented incorrectly but it exists and requires legal review and is now very relevant to Jack Smith's case.

Trump not getting immunity means that kind of poo poo gets dragged out for months in court to decide whether or not his claims were true before moving on to the whole problem of the fact he has a constitutional right to make them. It wouldn't happen before the election either way.

The supreme court can go on vacation it literally doesn't matter

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Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

Nichael posted:

what is t*kt*k

it's a little motorized rtickshaw they drive one in the new bad indiana jones movie

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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

it's this
https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7368532198741249323

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