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Figured I'd make the thread in advance
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epic post lollmao XDD
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Nov 24, 2014 05:46
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The game isn't the problem, players are the problem!
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Nov 24, 2014 06:45
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i'm the problem
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Nov 24, 2014 07:16
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It's a bad game
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Nov 24, 2014 07:34
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Fendahleen posted:The game isn't the problem, players are the problem! People just need to stop reacting poorly to bad game design and just accept it and pay 15 a month. Gamers are so entitled in tyool 2014.
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Nov 24, 2014 07:47
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gently caress you op this thread made me really excited !
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Nov 24, 2014 08:23
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Welp, I fell for this.
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Nov 24, 2014 09:31
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If anyone here is still paying attention to Wildstar, or (dear God) playing it, I'd like to hear about the current state of the game. They released some relatively big patch shortly after the previous thread was gassed, I got an email about it. How much stuff did it break, and how upset was the target audience about the devs officially killing off 40 man raiding?
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Nov 24, 2014 09:35
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RottenK posted:If anyone here is still paying attention to Wildstar, or (dear God) playing it, I'd like to hear about the current state of the game. They put in a bug that ruined the economy for the entire game. So yeah, the big fix everything and save the game patch failed to deliver.
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Nov 24, 2014 09:39
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Mr.Citrus posted:They put in a bug that ruined the economy for the entire game. So yeah, the big fix everything and save the game patch failed to deliver. I would love to hear the details, because in-game economy seems like one of the top 3 most essential things about running an MMO.
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Nov 24, 2014 09:48
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pentyne posted:I would love to hear the details, because in-game economy seems like one of the top 3 most essential things about running an MMO. Don't know the details but it was some sort of bug involving housing, it allowed people to get infinite money basically, the economy was completely destroyed and Carbine opted for lifetime bans rather than rollbacks.
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Nov 24, 2014 09:52
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pentyne posted:I would love to hear the details, because in-game economy seems like one of the top 3 most essential things about running an MMO. I'm not playing currently, but am still following the game (in the off chance they fix the game or turn it free to play in which case I'll check it out again.). Apparently rank four gardens would respswn plants instantly forever, allowing you to farm millions of seed then vendor them for fat stacks of cash.
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Nov 24, 2014 09:54
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Alteisen posted:Don't know the details but it was some sort of bug involving housing, it allowed people to get infinite money basically, the economy was completely destroyed and Carbine opted for lifetime bans rather than rollbacks. Haha, holy poo poo so a game breaking bug is exploited and the devs just ban accounts that took advantage of it?
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Nov 24, 2014 10:03
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pentyne posted:Haha, holy poo poo so a game breaking bug is exploited and the devs just ban accounts that took advantage of it? Too HARDCORE for you?? Even better was their approach to finding out who did it and who didn't. http://www.pcgamesn.com/wildstar/money-does-grow-on-trees-carbine-disable-gardening-to-end-wildstar-gold-exploit quote:“If you have abused this exploit, we will be taking action against your account. As you all know, we take exploits seriously and will not hesitate to lifetime ban accounts that have been caught abusing any exploits.”
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Nov 24, 2014 10:19
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Tbh it's probably not that difficult to look at the logs and find the people who suddenly got billions of seeds and then sold them No rollbacks is pure :carbine: though The economy isn't going to magically recover, you stupids
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Nov 24, 2014 10:29
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Nov 24, 2014 10:34
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the best part about the duping poo poo is they unbanned everyone anyway after that post because they realized they just permabanned 85% of their playerbase and still didn't do any rollbacks according to a few dudes i talked to while it was happening they took any hard cash you had but nothing you bought so people were sitting on years of game time (wildstar has PLEX) they bought with this exploit and it hasn't been taken
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Nov 24, 2014 10:41
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Doublestep posted:according to a few dudes i talked to while it was happening they took any hard cash you had but nothing you bought so people were sitting on years of game time (wildstar has PLEX) they bought with this exploit and it hasn't been taken i have to post a  in response to thisWildstar is now effectively F2P for most of the playerbase, without any of the revenue streams of actual F2P games, because the devs are too stupid to perform a rollback
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Nov 24, 2014 10:50
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Can't wait for them to actually make the game F2P so it's at least somewhat worth playing.
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Nov 24, 2014 10:55
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Cooking was easily exploitable for hundreds of plat back at launch and there was a couple of goons who had multiple years of gametime already. You could cook meals that would proc for like 9 times the yield they would normally give with talents. These meals could be sold to vendors for about 3-4 times the materials to make it. They didn't fix cooking until they broke the economy even further with this patch. Verranicus posted:Can't wait for them to actually make the game F2P so it's at least somewhat worth playing. they made the 40 man raid unkillable and plex now costs about 4000% more than it used to so honestly the game is seriously hosed and idk if f2p would save it I also haven't seen/heard from Cyster in the past month so I hope she didn't get laid off and if she did I hope she found a new job 
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Nov 24, 2014 10:57
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Nov 24, 2014 12:09
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is this really game destroying? i'm looking for some context here. i didn't pay much attention to wildstar because it looked stupid from a few screenshots and was trying to out-wow wow in terms of gameplay. e: i don't see anything about this at a casual glance on their forums. are goons blowing poo poo out of proportion, again Node fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Nov 24, 2014 12:11
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Node posted:is this really game destroying? i'm looking for some context here. i didn't pay much attention to wildstar because it looked stupid from a few screenshots and was trying to out-wow wow in terms of gameplay. Giving your players a way to play your subscription based game for free for years due to a bug and completely loving the economy beyond all recognition is generally Not Good
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Nov 24, 2014 12:14
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Doublestep posted:Giving your players a way to play your subscription based game for free for years due to a bug and completely loving the economy beyond all recognition is generally Not Good I agree, but you'd think that would be all over their general discussion forums and maybe I'm blind but I don't see it
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Nov 24, 2014 12:25
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the general discussion forums are full or braindead grogs who defend every bad thing and blame all criticism on crybaby casuals who can't handle a real game
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Nov 24, 2014 12:37
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Node posted:are goons blowing poo poo out of proportion, again lol other signs that your game is
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Nov 24, 2014 13:02
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The CEO of the Superdata (that tracks MMO revenue) mentions that the f2p model already peaked and its in decline (on MMOs at least, not mobas or shooters). People are getting sick of the transaction heavy freemium model and moving back to premium subscriptions or b2p models. Wildstar switching to f2p will mean absolutely nothing because its still a poo poo game. They'd have to burn every design decision they've made regarding their progress system and start over from the beginning and they'd still have to compete with games that have proven to be better than it.
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Nov 24, 2014 13:17
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Forums safariquote:They are frustrated because they don't want to put in the effort. Again, overall game population has nothing to do with actual raid size logistics. Stop conflating the two. quote:What if I say 10 mans can burn in hell and more difficulties whether easy or harder can too, would that mean I'm wrong? Or could it be a opinion? quote:*cupcake*ing scrublord casuals destroy yet another game. I really wonder what will happen to my guild now. And STFU pls Spythe, it may be your opinion, and I respected it as long as I didn't see DS for myself, but now I am 7/9 as well and this change WILL make this raid worse. Twenty additional people bring a lot to the table, there is just so much more variance in tactics. RIP 40 man raiding in Wildstar 
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Nov 24, 2014 13:47
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wildstar is good lol jk  idiots
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Nov 24, 2014 15:09
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Doublestep posted:the best part about the duping poo poo is they unbanned everyone anyway after that post because they realized they just permabanned 85% of their playerbase and still didn't do any rollbacks At this point I think the logical conclusion is that Wildstar is coded like poo poo and the reason they don't do rollbacks is they can't do rollbacks.
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Nov 24, 2014 15:46
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I resubbed the other day to check poo poo out and the mega server (heh) is a ghost town in the main city. I Saw one or two dudes doing dailies. Esper class changed with reap being different now. People mostly do level 20 storm talon to get parts to re rune their gear. Then in thenext drop they are doing itemization. How they perpetually make bad decisions on this level is totally beyond me. Have your gear and stats and poo poo figured out before beta ends, gently caress. They have a new daily zone. Dailies might have been cool back in 2003orwhatever. There's zero reason to run dungeons, adventures, do pvp. This game is hosed. Which sucks because the style and art are cool. That won't save it. Nobody plays this poo poo and all the free trials and advertisement in the world won't attract new people to the game if it's still garbage. Which it is. Rip.
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Nov 24, 2014 16:02
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Captain Oblivious posted:At this point I think the logical conclusion is that Wildstar is coded like poo poo and the reason they don't do rollbacks is they can't do rollbacks. The fact that the weird Attunement-locking bug was somehow clientside all but confirms it. The game was in development for 9-odd years, and I can only assume they've amassed an impressive amount of spaghetti code in that period.
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Nov 24, 2014 16:51
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Cao Ni Ma posted:The CEO of the Superdata (that tracks MMO revenue) mentions that the f2p model already peaked and its in decline (on MMOs at least, not mobas or shooters). People are getting sick of the transaction heavy freemium model and moving back to premium subscriptions or b2p models. Joost van Dreunen also doesn't think WoW is an exception to the rule when it comes to the online gaming marketplace. It is the only successful online gaming subscription based offering in North America. It's vast popularity supports the base two things you need to keep people playing an MMO 1.) healthy population 2.) sunk cost. That and it also has a nice microtransaction shop lumped on top of the other costs. No other game can pull what WoW pulls off and that's because they aren't the marketing and revenue juggernauts that World of Warcraft is. Its vast popularity means people will come back to it purely because everyone else is and they already know the game from playing it during a previous expansion. It's familiar. WoW doesn't have to sell a new product because it's just releasing content for the game you already know and tacking on features to it. WoW is the Nintendo of MMOs in North America. Lineage is the Nintendo of MMOs in SEA. The online gaming marketplace isn't immune to brand power. puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Nov 24, 2014 17:02
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Obligatory Widestancer post, repeat 500 times
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Nov 24, 2014 17:10
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Widestancer posted:Obligatory Widestancer post, repeat 500 times There we go, but it still doesn't feel like a wildstar thread in here for some reason..... I've got it! Paging panda clue to post fury scat porn ITT
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Nov 24, 2014 17:51
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RottenK posted:i have to post a The game might be f2p for some of the player base because of the exploit but they are still getting the p2p revenue stream. You buy game time from other players and that is actually 20 dollars per month. edit: I was hoping this thread was real also 
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Nov 24, 2014 18:14
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How the gently caress did I score a double kill?
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Mr.Citrus posted:There we go, but it still doesn't feel like a wildstar thread in here for some reason..... im here im just busy playing the 500 other games that got released this month. dont worry, i will be following the death of this game until the bitter end!
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