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A friend of mine told me to watch this. His review was "just watch it, idiot, it's on Amazon Prime." I mostly use my Amazon Prime account for diapers at this point so that sounded like a good enough reason. Wife and baby took a nap, I started the movie. Two-thirds of the way through, wifey woke up and came in the room. "What are you watching?" "It's called 'Bone Tomahawk.'" "What's it about?" "It's like a western/comedy/horror mashup." Minutes later the most gruesome death I'd ever seen in my life played out in front of my horrified wife, who demanded I remove "comedy" from my description of the movie. I won't, obviously, say who dies or how. But when a friend of mine asked me to "kind of" describe it to him, I thought for a minute and said "it's like the kind of thing that if I saw as a kid it would have hosed me up for life. I would have legitimately needed a therapist." Anyway it was good, imo, but I don't know what the point was, because all I see when I think of the movie is that awful goddamn death.
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FYI the writer director really likes Toetag movies if you're wondering where he's pulling his gross from
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Feb 19, 2016 06:46
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IMB posted:I mostly use my Amazon Prime account for diapers
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Feb 19, 2016 06:50
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I really like Bone Tomahawk but uh, what's it about? I guess if I had to, like, take a stab (word stab?) I'd say it's about the value/harm inherent to different manifestations of masculinity. Y'know, it's a Western so you kind of always think about it relative to America's history. Plus Cowboys are like, y'know, the archetypal image of buff and ruff dudes. You uh, have different members of the posse (and the monster dudes) representing different aspects of traits associated with masculinity (positive/negative) and their fates and path representing how these traits are maybe valuable but also outdated or self-destructive. Then maybe you could look at the treatment of race, Matthew Fox brutally owning everyone +the casual racism about owning other races. The interaction where they have "the professor" (Fargo Season 2 ftw huh?) make a specific point of the monster dudes being absolutely distinct from actual Native Americans and so on, idk if all that holds up since it's been a bit since I watched it but it definitely feels like there's a lot of strands to pull besides the (insanely Xtreme) violence.
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Feb 19, 2016 07:11
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I don't really have much to say about the "deeper" meanings of the film, but I will say it's one of my favorites from last year. The atmosphere was really fantastic. The performances were all well done, and the villains were extremely creepy. On top of that the gore was really well done. The better of the Kurt Russell westerns that came out last year.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:22
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The death scene that you spoke of made my jaw drop. I remember seeing Robocop when I was about 5 and seeing Murphy's arm blown off and him being blown away was both scary as poo poo and exhilarating for some reason. Seeing this death as a 34 year old man made me weak in the knees and I felt physically ill. Like I needed to lay down.
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Feb 19, 2016 22:27
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Not as good as Hateful Eight (an instant classic in my opinion) but still a solid Kurt Russel Western. Basically if you watched Deadwood but instead of never finishing the story they had Richard Laymon come in to write the last episode, that's what Bone Tomahawk would be. It's weird that for all the hosed up poo poo in the last ten minutes of the movie the throat cutting at the beginning was so bloodless though. I think I've bled more than that shaving with a dull razor.
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Feb 20, 2016 02:39
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suddenlyissoon posted:The death scene that you spoke of made my jaw drop. I remember seeing Robocop when I was about 5 and seeing Murphy's arm blown off and him being blown away was both scary as poo poo and exhilarating for some reason. Seeing this death as a 34 year old man made me weak in the knees and I felt physically ill. Like I needed to lay down. This movie was simply amazing except for that loving over-the-top death scene. None of the Saw or Hostel movies even came close to that level of carnage. As somebody who's been desensitized by the internet, it still left me speechless and disgusted, and even a bit angry afterwards. Also Kurt Russell owns.
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Feb 20, 2016 07:45
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I have no idea if I'm a monster or desensitized to the world thanks to the Internet but that death went so long that I spent the first 60% of it in abject horror and the rest cackling uncontrollably. Maybe my brain just broke from the shock.
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Feb 20, 2016 16:07
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I spent the last half of that scene repeatedly shouting "NO" at the TV in my empty apartment.
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Feb 20, 2016 16:24
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Chicory is the best character Chicory: That tea smells gruesome. Sheriff Hunt: It's soup. Chicory: Oh. You think I can have some? also: Sheriff Hunt: Say goodbye to my wife. I'll say hello to yours. 
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Feb 20, 2016 16:28
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Good job on making sure I never, never watch this film guys. And I've watched all the hostels, most saws and martyrs. This one just seems a little too much for my sensitive tastes. Christ, I remember the ear scene in Reservoir Dogs being a little much back in the day. How times change.
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Feb 20, 2016 16:40
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I re-watched the death scene out of context it. It's not that bad. But when it comes in the film it's absolutely horrific. It's really good to see a gore scene that is both repulsive, and scary. i mean, you can skip the scene if you don't want to see it. It doesn't come out of nowhere. But you should really watch the film because it's excellent. And better than H8ful Eight. 
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I loved this movie to death. It seems like - between Slow West, this, Hateful Eight and The Revenant - that 2015 was the year of the western revival, and I believe this was my favorite of the pack. The first time I watched it, me and my friends were all a bit high and were nodding off (not to the movie's detriment, we're just degenerates) right around the point where IT happened. We all watched in stunned silence, my buddy's girlfriend literally screamed, and we had to pause it, go outside and walk for a bit. That poo poo shook me to my core; I think the buildup of character and dread is really what made it "earned" brutality, rather than cheap gore for gore's sake.
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You people are a bunch of wusses. It's a Mortal Kombat fatality, the most shocking and effective thing about it is that it comes out of nowhere 95 minutes into a well-acted atmospheric western (and the internet thoroughly ruined that surprise for anyone who hasn't seen it yet). It also looked like they did it without cgi, I guess people aren't used to that anymore? The reaction to this reminds me of both whenever there's that one critically acclaimed horror movie every few years and everyone who doesn't really watch horror rushes online to call it the OMG CRAZIEST MOVIE EVER SERIOUSLY WHO COMES UP WITH STUFF LIKE THIS or, on the other side of the spectrum, the same people's reaction to stuff like Hostel and the accompanying TORTURE PORN IS A BLIGHT ON MODERN CINEMA AND SHOULD BE OUTLAWED debate when it came out. On the other hand it really makes me hope someone finally manages to make a Blood Meridian movie with all the gore from the book in it, just for the reactions. Also Bone Tomahawk is a really good movie with great performances. Illinois Smith fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Illinois Smith posted:You people are a bunch of wusses. It's a Mortal Kombat fatality, the most shocking and effective thing about it is that it comes out of nowhere 95 minutes into a well-acted atmospheric western (and the internet thoroughly ruined that surprise for anyone who hasn't seen it yet). It also looked like they did it without cgi, I guess people aren't used to that anymore? I just got an idea for a horror slasher called Smugface starring you  [Smugface stabbing a screaming victim] Smugface: lmao rly? *rolls eyes* this is like made for TV movie level of violence u pussy Lil Mama Im Sorry fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Feb 21, 2016 15:20
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I quite liked the characters and the dialogue in this film, and the first maybe two thirds were really solid, but it just kind of went nowhere at all in the end.
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Anonymous Robot posted:I quite liked the characters and the dialogue in this film, and the first maybe two thirds were really solid, but it just kind of went nowhere at all in the end. I fail to see where else it could've gone without diving into the explicitly supernatural. At its core, this is a movie about two small tribes of people coming into conflict. Some live and some die, in both sides. A pretty great movie about the old west in microcosm, in my opinion.
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:I just got an idea for a horror slasher called Smugface starring you I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a smug horror hipster version of Funny Games yet. I might be the only person left on the Internet who wasn't spoiled by anything further than the general premise of this movie, so when I caught it on a random streaming surf I was pleasantly surprised. (Uh, maybe "pleasantly" isn't the right term...) The slice-of-life pace in the first 2/3 or so kinda reminded me of a Jim Jarmusch film and made the Old West feel like a real place of history populated by real people instead of a stock genre setting, which went all the more to buying into the horrific events to come. That scene isn't disturbing just because it's gory and a terrifying end, but because the characters you've gotten to know over the course of the film are believably selling their revulsion and terror. McSpanky fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Feb 21, 2016 22:12
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I'm a little late to this thread but this movie convinced me that it's a god damned crime that I'm not seeing Matthew Fox in more films.
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This film was great. The 'good guys' weren't invincible crack shots; the 'bad guys' were as awful as promised once the movie gives you some information as to who/what they are. I'd love to be able to get this poster as well: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm441710336/tt2494362?ref_=ttmi_mi_all_pos_7
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As a little side note, I love how abrupt, quick and unheralded the various attacks by the troglodytes are. Just walking along and suddenly hit by a spear or tomahawk. The lack of music helped the scene catch me off guard. This shouldn't be someone's directorial debut.
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metallicaeg posted:This film was great. The 'good guys' weren't invincible crack shots; the 'bad guys' were as awful as promised once the movie gives you some information as to who/what they are. Another thing I loved is that when a bad guy got shot, they died. What a concept! Sure some were hardier than others but at no point did I feel that anyone was a supervillain. I also loved when the sheriff stood up in victory after killing the war tusk chief, and immediately collapsed after the surge of adrenaline faded.
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Just watched this on Amazon and loving loved it. The post-intro first 20 minutes are very boring though. If I had to describe this movie to someone I'd say the first good 90 minutes is pure modern reivisionist western ala Unforgiven and then the last 45 minutes is like native american texas chainsaw massacre
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I just watched it because of this thread and it is a good movie. I enjoyed it. Maybe a few too many scenes of a dude with a busted leg falling down again, or groaning and stressing over his injury. But maybe that's because I saw the Revenant recently. Anyway, the conversation at the end about "this is why the West is so difficult"seemed a little out of place. Also the tension over who was probably going to die or definitely going to die was well done. And hearing about that death scene, but not knowing any spoilers, kept me on my toes around the 2/3 mark where it seems like it could happen to any of the characters. And Matthew Fox nailed it with the facial expressions during histough-man act when he realizes he is going to die.
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The blonde woman looked so out of place. Perfect hair and makeup for no reason. Also have no idea who Patrick Wilson is not have I seen anything but the entire film it was very jarring to cut back to him because he looks so much like Will Arnett. Also Sean Young (!) and Michael pare(!) are in this for like 2 seconds for no reason.
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The mayor and his wife were criminally underutilized as well. ^^^ are those the actors? How do you spell trogolodyte?
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Sean young is the mayors wife and Michael pare played the guy who the sherif said he'd slap if he asks about horses again
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Oh yeah, that was another great moment. What was the supposed explanation for the creepy screaming voices? The savages had modified their throats somehow, or what?
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For me that specific scene actually did a huge disservice to he rest of the film because it was so violent and unpleasant that I have a hard time really finding anything to say about the movie as a whole. The movie I felt was moving too slowly, not fleshing out its characters quite enough or giving me enough to be interested in, and then BAM! Most horrific death I've ever seen on film. Throwing unpleasant and horrible in didn't exactly fix those problems.
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Zeris posted:Oh yeah, that was another great moment. Judging from how much tissue and goo Patrick Wilson's character had to clean from the one he got I think it's supposed to be an extra resonating passage or vocal organ in the throat, kinda like the extended nasal chambers in some dinosaurs.
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McSpanky posted:Judging from how much tissue and goo Patrick Wilson's character had to clean from the one he got I think it's supposed to be an extra resonating passage or vocal organ in the throat, kinda like the extended nasal chambers in some dinosaurs. Okay, I considered that option and really hoped it wasn't the case - it seems unnecessary to make the evil savages into some evolutionary offshoot with weird throat bones in order to justify a single creepy audio effect
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Zeris posted:Okay, I considered that option and really hoped it wasn't the case - it seems unnecessary to make the evil savages into some evolutionary offshoot with weird throat bones in order to justify a single creepy audio effect They looked like they were crudely implanted into their larynges.
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Matthew Fox stole this film. I hope it leads to more work for him because he was loving incredible.
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McSpanky posted:Judging from how much tissue and goo Patrick Wilson's character had to clean from the one he got I think it's supposed to be an extra resonating passage or vocal organ in the throat, kinda like the extended nasal chambers in some dinosaurs. He extracts some kind of weird shaped stone/bone from his neck, in a spot which has been scarified; the implication is that their culture practices a form of body modification to enable that unique communication.
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I didn't really notice the scarring, I'm glad to be wrong about it because "freaky isolated savages" is much more interesting than a whole other species anyway.
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Anonymous Robot posted:He extracts some kind of weird shaped stone/bone from his neck, in a spot which has been scarified; the implication is that their culture practices a form of body modification to enable that unique communication. This is by far the preferred explanation in my opinion. Because the guy's first reaction on seeing it is, (correct me if I heard the quote wrong,) "Is that some kind of....jewelry?"
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Basticle posted:The blonde woman looked so out of place. Perfect hair and makeup for no reason. Also have no idea who Patrick Wilson is not have I seen anything but the entire film it was very jarring to cut back to him because he looks so much like Will Arnett. Patrick Wilson is awesome in Fargo's second season, and he was also Nite Owl in Watchmen, which is probably where most people have seen him before. Also everyone talks about The Scene but I never see anyone mention how hosed up the blind, mute, quadruple amputee woman / birthing pod was. The former is more shocking on an immediate, visceral level, but the latter is also just immensely horrible on an even deeper level. I liked this movie a lot. I'm not 100% sure how I feel about the ending just yet - it's kinda abrupt, but it doesn't really feel unfinished. Hell of a cast, Richard Jenkins in particular killed it, though I am embarrassed to admit that I didn't even recognize him until like a third of the way through.
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I loved this movie, and the fact they managed to make it on a smaller budget on the Paramount ranch impresses me more. Save for the use of CGI on the cave entrance being the only real glaring thing to my eyes. It's the slowest of boils that lets you see where each character is coming from giving enough time to invest in them, and that I really appreciated before it all went straight to hell. Goddamn THAT scene and inside the cave. Great use of practical effects.
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