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based64: Feb 15, 2024

based64 fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Apr 8, 2024

# ? Feb 29, 2024 01:16

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 13:32

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

flag my balls

# ? Feb 29, 2024 01:17

euroshopper: Aug 14, 2021

Pinterest Mom posted:

what do you mean by flag used only for one year. isn't that ME/2000 flag the same as the one used in Windowses 95 and 98?

oh i mean the colored squares appearing beneath the flag

# ? Feb 29, 2024 01:20

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Heavy_D posted:

Raymond Chen, perhaps the only good blogger on the whole internet, has told in various chunks the story of how the very first 64 bit version of windows was written for the Alpha AXP in 2000

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/technet-magazine/cc718978(v=msdn.10)

interestingly someone actually wrote a thunking layer and cpu emulator to run alpha (and MIPS) NT apps on x86 https://github.com/BHTY/EmuWoW

it works, but apparently it's pretty janky. not like there was much alpha/MIPS windows software anyway

# ? Feb 29, 2024 01:24

Last Chance: Dec 31, 2004

Pinterest Mom posted:

what do you mean by flag used only for one year. isn't that ME/2000 flag the same as the one used in Windowses 95 and 98?

yeah this is what confused me.

# ? Feb 29, 2024 01:40

Branch Nvidian: Nov 29, 2012

based64 posted:

if you login to Office with a personal MS account it changes the default browser for Outlook and Teams to Microsoft Edge, ignoring OS browser defaults. thanks Microsoft for confusing the poo poo out of my elderly parents.

Does anyone say this poo poo out loud before they hit publish?

gently caress you bithc!

hooking my parents on OS X/macOS is maybe the single best thing I ever did for my own sanity

# ? Feb 29, 2024 01:43

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Beeftweeter posted:

this is me whenever I have to make a .ico in Visual Studio pixel editor for some tiny .exe

# ? Feb 29, 2024 02:46

based64: Feb 15, 2024

based64 fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Apr 8, 2024

# ? Feb 29, 2024 04:05

Best Bi Geek Squid: Mar 25, 2016

just saw an ad irl for Microsoft Copilot. now I see the value proposition of Microsoft Copilot and want to integrate it into my workflow

# ? Mar 3, 2024 05:35

euroshopper: Aug 14, 2021

the windows prototype expert got probated for 3 days this is so sad

# ? Mar 3, 2024 23:33

Hed: Mar 31, 2004; Fun Shoe

lol what in the world

# ? Mar 4, 2024 00:03

Elder Postsman: Aug 30, 2000; i used hot bot to search for "teens"

i'm doing some stuff with DVDs and windows won't even mount and load them until i open "My Computer" and double click on the dvd drive

what a piece of poo poo os

# ? Mar 5, 2024 02:41

jammyozzy: Dec 7, 2006; <img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-jammyozzy.gif"><br>Is that a challenge?

That's probably superior to the old default of auto-running just whatever poo poo is on any media the instant it's inserted

# ? Mar 5, 2024 08:14

git apologist: Jun 4, 2003

does teams have an api, is it possible to build a minimal client for it

# ? Mar 5, 2024 08:30

Armitag3: Mar 15, 2020; Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.

git apologist posted:

does teams have an api, is it possible to build a minimal client for it

You�re going to release Teams (for minimalists)?

# ? Mar 5, 2024 09:05

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

https://github.com/EionRobb/purple-teams

i should try it

# ? Mar 5, 2024 09:08

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

"pros: no electron/webview", good thing a project started in 2022 instead decided to build an application that's pretty much all text ui work in the more sophisticated way: raw c on gtk2

# ? Mar 5, 2024 09:22

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

they've atleast updated to gtk4

code:

if get_option('gtkui')
	gtk = dependency('gtk4', version : '>= 4.10.0')
	libadwaita = dependency('libadwaita-1', version : '>= 1.2')
endif	# GTK

# ? Mar 5, 2024 09:53

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

oh, well, that's a rare one, but as far as my whine went that's good.

honestly though i think fighting webviews for that sort of thing is kind of hopeless. ultimately what teams *logically* displays is a webpage, with embeds and plugins and whatnot you will basically either get it done on a webview or you will badly implement a fragment of a webview in a way that is largely guaranteed to ultimately be slower and buggier (and this holds true even for "real" widget toolkits, in a setting where you drift into the kind of rendering browsers do you are simply not going to find shortcuts browsers don't already take).

which is not an argument for electron as such, no particular reason to marry javascript to it, or hook up every other api into a javascript lump, but for rendering this kind of thing the ship has for sure sailed.

# ? Mar 5, 2024 10:07

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Nobody who would use an alternative teams client wants any of that poo poo to embed.
A link would be fine, if I can make it open in a certain browser profile then even better.

# ? Mar 5, 2024 12:00

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

those people sure must love spending their time on the web if they're rushing to click every link

# ? Mar 5, 2024 12:14

laserghost: Feb 12, 2014; ^{trust me, I'm a cat.}

today I had to use the stopwatch function in the clock app, and discovered that 1) you can't resize the window while the stopwatch is working, the cursor just blinks between normal and resize mode frantically 2) you can't copy the time to the clipboard. amazing

# ? Mar 6, 2024 21:14

Chris Knight: Jun 5, 2002; me @ ur posts; Fun Shoe

lol we're now getting the whole Teams (for work or school) can't join a meeting from an Outlook pop up thing

# ? Mar 6, 2024 21:19

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

euroshopper posted:

the windows prototype expert got probated for 3 days this is so sad

lol i'm no expert, i was just around for a lot of the NT 5-6 era craziness and ran a news site about them, so i have a lot of experience using and writing about them

# ? Mar 6, 2024 21:33

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

winbetas royalty over here

# ? Mar 6, 2024 21:40

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

infernal machines posted:

winbetas royalty over here

kinda yeah, i knew a lot of those folks so i got a couple builds that didn't end up leaking to the general public until 5-6, sometimes 10+ years later

like i said, i wish i'd kept better backups because i had a lot of poo poo that i think would be really interesting to look over today

# ? Mar 6, 2024 22:02

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

paul, is that you?

# ? Mar 6, 2024 22:08

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

i used to idle in the irc channel to grab the builds as they released them, way back when

all those isos, lost like tears in rain

# ? Mar 6, 2024 22:09

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Sapozhnik posted:

paul, is that you?

i called paul thurrott a "loving suckup hack" to his face way before it was possible to do on twitter lol

same with robert scoble. we had a whole thread about how stupid, lovely and deferential to ms he was (amongst some other language thay would get me at the very least probed, but remember this was about 20 years ago. plus it turned out scoble was a MS employee anyway)

# ? Mar 6, 2024 22:17

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

infernal machines posted:

i used to idle in the irc channel to grab the builds as they released them, way back when

all those isos, lost like tears in rain

almost all of those, plus some of the "unleaked" ones i was referring to a few posts up, are on archive.org (and some builds i'd never tried before, too). really handy to have them all in one place with https downloads, you know?

# ? Mar 6, 2024 22:19

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

also i was an op in #winbeta on efnet, idk i might've kicked some of you out arbitrarily for fun (sorry if so. i was 20 years younger and obviously much less mature)

# ? Mar 6, 2024 22:22

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Beeftweeter posted:

also i was an op in #winbeta on efnet, idk i might've kicked some of you out arbitrarily for fun (sorry if so. i was 20 years younger and obviously much less mature)

you son of a bitch

Beeftweeter posted:

almost all of those, plus some of the "unleaked" ones i was referring to a few posts up, are on archive.org (and some builds i'd never tried before, too). really handy to have them all in one place with https downloads, you know?

this is cool, and i suppose i should've figured they'd be there, but it's good to know the next time i'm refurbing some old system

infernal machines fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Mar 6, 2024

# ? Mar 6, 2024 22:41

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Beeftweeter posted:

also i was an op in #winbeta on efnet, idk i might've kicked some of you out arbitrarily for fun (sorry if so. i was 20 years younger and obviously much less mature)

I don't care about overzealous admins using /kick for everything under the sun, I care when they make up rules about "rejoining the channel too quickly" and kline you

# ? Mar 7, 2024 03:20

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

infernal machines posted:

you son of a bitch

this is cool, and i suppose i should've figured they'd be there, but it's good to know the next time i'm refurbing some old system

after i kinda got bored of that site (since windows xp had released and longhorn was a mess for a long time) i moved to being an admin at a different site, so i got some stuff a lot of people hadn't seen before from that too. archive.org has some stuff that i had been told to keep very secret, like very early beta builds of windows 95 (chicago) and nashville (cancelled follow-up to windows 95, "windows 96"), plus neptune, etc. although that was kinda floating around for a while and became easy to find eventually

anyway it seems like some of the people i knew uploaded them there themselves, so that's kinda funny

Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Mar 7, 2024

# ? Mar 7, 2024 05:26

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Beeftweeter posted:

almost all of those, plus some of the "unleaked" ones i was referring to a few posts up, are on archive.org (and some builds i'd never tried before, too). really handy to have them all in one place with https downloads, you know?

how are they getting away with all that software on there anyway

# ? Mar 7, 2024 08:36

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

https://twitter.com/WindowsDocs/status/1767273110783344882

# ? Mar 12, 2024 12:59

Branch Nvidian: Nov 29, 2012

guess their generative ai hasn�t figured out hands yet

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:11

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

Pinterest Mom posted:

https://twitter.com/WindowsDocs/status/1767273110783344882

no way of actually making a cross platform gui with c# yet i see

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:59

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Carthag Tuek posted:

how are they getting away with all that software on there anyway

there isn't much you can do with an old beta build of windows other than install it and play around. most of them have (easily worked around) timebombs too, and they usually can't use windows update. there's just not much reason for ms to go after anyone for hosting them, especially if they're 20+ years old

# ? Mar 12, 2024 15:05

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 13:32

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Tankakern posted:

no way of actually making a cross platform gui with c# yet i see

have you heard of mono???

# ? Mar 12, 2024 15:06

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