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I forgot if it was this video or some other one that more clearly laid it out for me but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QshUPkplXxQ Yeah I'll go with the theory that it is not just 'a dying dream' ya goofs. Ariane is dying slowly out in space or a crashed planet (it doesn't matter) and made a promise with 'her' Elster. She's also super bioresonant. She had 'her' Elster, who is probably dead or malfunctioning now. Ariane is somehow bioresonant to a degree that she syncs up with whatever poo poo is going on at Rotfront and the Falke unit there. Ariane can't "just dream them up", she has no actual knowledge of that place. All Elsters innately (based on their original pattern) have a connection to Alina Seo (who is long dead), which is why the Elster you play as initially conflates her with Ariane. Elster units are (whether really or only within a loop) being called to that facility, which is undergoing Ariane's resonant nightmare being physically inflicted upon it, to fulfil her 'promise' (presumably, "kill me when I can't be comfortably kept alive any longer"). How does an Elster over at Rotfront manage to reach an Ariane who is off dying in space somewhere? Because of supernatural stuff and bioresonance and stuff being metaphysically synced up!
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Ending chat I don't see the problem even if you interpret it as a dream. The whole problem with the dream trope is that it invalidates something and this is not the case here. Even if it were a dream, it would still serve as a twisted lense that shows how their world works, and what Elster and Arianne went through. It doesn't detract or invalidate anything. If it was classic dream trope stuff Arianne would just safely wake up in bed or something.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN1qM4f8_J0
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Hey, this video got me into Signalis and now I feel strongly wistful about space robots, thanks bewilderment posted:I forgot if it was this video or some other one that more clearly laid it out for me but There's a document where someone is concerned about how much Eusan is reliant on bioresonance tech without really understanding what it is. Consider just how prevalent Replikas are, and Falke units are specifically considered to be Wunderwaffen in their war against the empire - the document specifically calls the continued use of bioresonance as the way they will all be brought back into the Imperial fold. I don't think Ariane was just bioresonant, she was Empress-tier bioresonant, and that got people scared. Scared enough that they wouldn't just off her or imprison her the way it happened to other people for ridiculously minor faults, but instead they crafted a situation where she'd go away on her own. Allowing her to be raised by her aunt and setting her up to be bullied at school (the gas mask girls), essentially driving her to seek a way out. She was never in danger of going to Sierpinski, the Penrose program was always her destination. An Elster model was specifically chosen for the original's connection to a similar person (Alina) to 'stabilize' her for as long as it took until she died naturally and, more importantly, as far loving away from people as possible. Turns out that the Oort Cloud wasn't far away enough. But that wasn't the only thing going on. It's a cosmic horror/Lovecraftian yarn, there was probably a cthulhu around, perhaps the very initial source of bioresonance. It may or may not have the empire under its sway already, with the rebels that became Eusan being the only ones to miraculously break free from their grasp only to fall for that same trap by messing with the funny psychic powers for national glory. When Ariane made contact home in her pain and despair, the disease that was killing off Gestalts and turning Replikas into scary meat zombies was already affecting everyone, most likely unleashed by Falke going beyond the gate: it's the interplay between Ariane reality-warping power and the thing turning everyone into a single mass of meat that gets the loop going, with her unconsciously but not perfectly 'fixing' things in her yearning for a long-dead Elster to 'save' her. Adler figures this out each time, but it's unable to do anything about it; the comatose Falke gets her mind overwritten by what Ariane already knows but refuses to accept about Elster (that she's gone and will never dance with her again)
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Traveller posted:I don't think Ariane was just bioresonant, she was Empress-tier bioresonant, and that got people scared. Scared enough that they wouldn't just off her or imprison her the way it happened to other people for ridiculously minor faults, but instead they crafted a situation where she'd go away on her own. Allowing her to be raised by her aunt and setting her up to be bullied at school (the gas mask girls), essentially driving her to seek a way out. She was never in danger of going to Sierpinski, the Penrose program was always her destination. An Elster model was specifically chosen for the original's connection to a similar person (Alina) to 'stabilize' her for as long as it took until she died naturally and, more importantly, as far loving away from people as possible. Turns out that the Oort Cloud wasn't far away enough. In the last third or so of the game, there's a file in Rotfront in the train station locker that suggests a double agent deliberately redacted the records of Ariane's bioresonance. Essentially, she got sent into space because the enemy wanted to deny a powerful weapon to Eusan, which also meant they hit Serpinski with a bank-shot psychic nuke.
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Wanderer posted:In the last third or so of the game, there's a file in Rotfront in the train station locker that suggests a double agent deliberately redacted the records of Ariane's bioresonance. Essentially, she got sent into space because the enemy wanted to deny a powerful weapon to Eusan, which also meant they hit Serpinski with a bank-shot psychic nuke. Score one for the reactionary forces, I guess!
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May 30, 2024 03:42
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Sad music for horny androids
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Speaking of which, I listened to an interview with the composer of the soundtrack and he explained why the song titles are so strange (for example "Cigarette Wife" is the more well known one, when the game itself doesn't really feature any cigarettes or wives) and it turns out that the soundtrack was mostly written way before the composer had any contact with the developers and all the song titles are just random gibberish that was stuck in his head. Rose-Engine just approached him at one point and asked him to use his album and he said "sure".
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I'm about 90% sure that "Cigarette Wife" came from listening to Neil Cicierega's last mashup album.
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