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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Deadpool shows up in the MCU, his first swear is bleeped out, he hears it and immediately starts ranting about why he isn't allowed to swear anymore. Then he realizes what that means and proceeds to swear his tits off leading to the good old "dialogue is mostly bleeps" gag.

Then Captain American washes his mouth out with soap wait I'm thinking of the any-day-now-right Nextwave movie again

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Speaking of Deadpool surviving, the way his powers work with being able to regrow from anything including decapitation (though it seems implied that the X-Men stitched his bits back together after his suicide) have always been an interesting counterpoint to his cancer, since it seems implied that his body parts grow back healthy at least initially before the cancer starts setting in. The movies haven't generally displayed Wolverine regrowing limbs, possibly mostly because they haven't been R rated, but it can be presumed he's not far off, but the adamantium both slows his healing with the poisoning (as confirmed in Logan) and makes a lot of it unnecessary because he can't break bones. Interesting that in both prominent cases of characters with super-healing, both specifically have additional conditions that weaken it. (and introduce other factors)

Also, interesting in the movies that the X-Men consider Deadpool a possible member and count him as a mutant, where in the comics it's generally the total opposite. Though the X-movies seem to have no other source of superpowers than mutation so far, and even artificially induced mutations are considered the same as natural as far as the X-Men are concerned, solidarity and all that. (I recall the politician in the first X-Men movie who was given a jellyfish-like mutation from the first test of Magneto's device, though he ended up dissolving as a result. It wasn't clear whether that would happen to everyone exposed to it or it was a result of his power developing out of control to fatal levels, as is apparently common with unfortunate one-shot mutants in the comics)

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

My Lovely Horse posted:

Deadpool shows up in the MCU, his first swear is bleeped out, he hears it and immediately starts ranting about why he isn't allowed to swear anymore. Then he realizes what that means and proceeds to swear his tits off leading to the good old "dialogue is mostly bleeps" gag.

This was just what I was thinking. Maybe some horrific off-screen violence that Deadpool realizes he's not being filmed and says "oh, right, pg-13."

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Ghost Leviathan posted:

The movies haven't generally displayed Wolverine regrowing limbs, possibly mostly because they haven't been R rated, but it can be presumed he's not far off, but the adamantium both slows his healing with the poisoning (as confirmed in Logan) and makes a lot of it unnecessary because he can't break bones. Interesting that in both prominent cases of characters with super-healing, both specifically have additional conditions that weaken it. (and introduce other factors)

Yeah there was a scene in the Ultimate comics where Hulk ripped Wolverine in half and threw his legs over a mountain and he had to crawl all the way up there and refit his legs to his torso like a Lego man putting himself back together.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


If I recall there was long delay between issues, and it took Wolverine several months to crawl back up that slope.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It seems generally consistent that they can regrow limbs eventually (though with Wolverine he wouldn't have his adamantium, so he might as well retrieve it) but it's a lot faster to reattach severed body parts. (and iirc irl, if you get to a doctor fast enough you can reattach severed digits at the very least?)

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Ghost Leviathan posted:

It seems generally consistent that they can regrow limbs eventually (though with Wolverine he wouldn't have his adamantium, so he might as well retrieve it) but it's a lot faster to reattach severed body parts. (and iirc irl, if you get to a doctor fast enough you can reattach severed digits at the very least?)

Someone didn't watch The Shape of Water.

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


MiddleOne posted:

Someone didn't watch The Shape of Water.

Ugh... thanks for reminding me of that scene.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


It's amazing that in a movie where a fishman eats a cat that 90 percent of the gory moments come from Michael Shannon alone.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Inspector Gesicht posted:

It's amazing that in a movie where a fishman eats a cat that 90 percent of the gory moments come from Michael Shannon alone.

Until now I don't think I got the irony of a fish eating a cat.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Ghost Leviathan posted:

It seems generally consistent that they can regrow limbs eventually (though with Wolverine he wouldn't have his adamantium, so he might as well retrieve it) but it's a lot faster to reattach severed body parts. (and iirc irl, if you get to a doctor fast enough you can reattach severed digits at the very least?)

Depends. In an AU Nightcrawler killed Deadpool by grabbing him by the neck and teleporting his head off.

IRL severed digits depends on how badly they’re mangled; or yanno, if you have to sit 90 minutes in an ER with half of your finger in your buddy’s lunch cooler before they say they don’t have a hand specialist.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


The Punisher MAX taught me that you don't put freshly-severed digits in ice as the cold and moisture will destroy the nerve-endings

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

My Lovely Horse posted:

Deadpool shows up in the MCU, his first swear is bleeped out, he hears it and immediately starts ranting about why he isn't allowed to swear anymore. Then he realizes what that means and proceeds to swear his tits off leading to the good old "dialogue is mostly bleeps" gag.

Then Captain American washes his mouth out with soap wait I'm thinking of the any-day-now-right Nextwave movie again

MisterBibs posted:

This was just what I was thinking. Maybe some horrific off-screen violence that Deadpool realizes he's not being filmed and says "oh, right, pg-13."

This all sounds horrible.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Then what the heck are you supposed to do? Just toss it in a ziploc?

BTW, I’m sending a friend my old X-Force omnibus, so for anyone curious about Zeitgeist’s first appearance:








Despite the poppy art-style, the book was actually super brutal

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

punk rebel ecks posted:

This all sounds horrible.

I dunno, I'd love to see Deadpool have a big gory action sequence "censored" in various ways and then go off to beat up Cap/Tony/Spidey/whoever because he blames them for getting his movie toned down.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

punk rebel ecks posted:

This all sounds horrible.

:agreed:

Keep Deadpool R-rated. The swearing isn't the point, but you need the ability to show graphic (and hilarious) violence whenever you want.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Straight White Shark posted:

I dunno, I'd love to see Deadpool have a big gory action sequence "censored" in various ways and then go off to beat up Cap/Tony/Spidey/whoever because he blames them for getting his movie toned down.
I'm picturing Austin Powers walking around nude and various objects covering his bits, except with Deadpool and Captain America's shield, Dr. Strange's cape, Thor's hammer...

and in a second scene those could all be covering up gore, too

Let's not kid ourselves though, that kind of stuff needs visual comedy thinking a bit above what the MCU people can usually muster.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Fine I'll confess.

I just want to see Deadpool versus Dio because I want to see Deadpool make gay innuendo jokes to Dio, while Dio shouts "ZUH-WORLDO" and "useless" in Japanese over and over again while hitting Deadpool, but becomes frustrated when he sees that he has such a hard time killing him.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Honestly, I'd be less in it for the gay innuendo jokes and more for the loving relentless metal jokes. Deadpool would find out his name is Dio and just be completely, utterly unable to help himself.

e: now that I think about it, what would happen if a JoJo vampire tried to drain DP? Would that just... kinda not work? Would they get super-cancer from it?

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


punk rebel ecks posted:

How would Deadpool beat Dio?

Meta awareness: Deadpool would just run off and get the most flamboyantly dressed person named "Jojo" he can find and have them beat Dio instead.

The real question is this: What would Deadpool's stand be?

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Also, interesting in the movies that the X-Men consider Deadpool a possible member and count him as a mutant, where in the comics it's generally the total opposite.

The implication in the movies seems to be that only Colossus feels this way, the other X-men don't want to deal with Wade at all.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

punk rebel ecks posted:

Fine I'll confess.

I just want to see Deadpool versus Dio because I want to see Deadpool make gay innuendo jokes to Dio, while Dio shouts "ZUH-WORLDO" and "useless" in Japanese over and over again while hitting Deadpool, but becomes frustrated when he sees that he has such a hard time killing him.

There is another reason I want to see them fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQEYyxNc_ac

Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

punk rebel ecks posted:

I want to see something like this done again. But only manga characters versus comic characters.

Goku vs Superman
Deadpool vs Dio
Luffy vs Thor
Hit vs Flash
One Punch Man vs Diamond
Spiderman vs Deku
watch enough Salty Bet and you'll probably see them all

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

AnEdgelord posted:

There is another reason I want to see them fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQEYyxNc_ac

What does Deadpool fit so well into anime?

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
Deadpool vs. Dio but Ian Gillan tags in halfway through

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

the gently caress are you all talking about

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



WoodrowSkillson posted:

the gently caress are you all talking about

Probably video games.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

WoodrowSkillson posted:

the gently caress are you all talking about

The upcoming Marvel vs DC vs Shonen animated film.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Blazing Ownager posted:

Punisher vs all of the above: Punisher

Only if Ennis is writing.

I was going to put up Golgo 13 vs. the Punisher, but that would be such an unfair fight in Duke Togo's favor. Then I was going to say Golgo vs. John Wick, but, given Keanu Reeves went all fangirl over Sonny China, Wick would probably throw the game.

Honestly, without getting into Saitama or Goku, the best matchup for Golgo would be Blackjack, but not in a direct versus matchup, but Golgo has to kill a target while Blackjack has to save the target's life. Doesn't matter if the target got shot in the head, Blackjack could save them.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Covok posted:

Superman vs Goku is a can of worms. Goku is ungodly powerful, especially when you consider the Tournament of Power only took 40 minutes. Thus, they were going at ludrcious super speeds that would make the Flash seem slow. But Superman is also stupidly godly powerful in some interpretations. Like punching the walls of reality or becoming made of literal narrative and thus being unbeatable (like, one of that variants Superman's superpowers is explicitly ALWAYS becoming as strong as needed to beat his opponent because he is a living story.)

In this situation, it's best to go back to what Stan Lee said when asked if the Hulk or Thor were strong:

"It depends on whose writing the story. If he's a Hulk fan, Hulk will be stronger. If he's a Thor fan, Thor will be stronger. Because, I don't want this to go further than this room, but these are fictitious characters."

I always liked how Death Battle handled Superman vs. Goku. They animated this big fight and had Superman win, explaining that Superman has Goku's top form beat in every category to a huge degree. The closing statement was that Goku's deal is that he's constantly breaking his limits while Superman has no limits to begin with.

Years of angry DBZ fans complaining followed while the Death Battle guys shrugged and went, "We don't even like Superman. We think Goku is way more interesting. But seriously, Superman trumps him in every way."

Finally, they did a rematch episode because Goku had since upgraded into two more forms and Superman gained some new power or something. While a lot of people expected Goku to win this time (why else would they do it?), instead they animated him as getting clowned even harder with a lengthy follow-up explaining that, no fooling, Superman has this because he's more ridiculously overpowered than you realize.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
I honestly forget, why does Deadpool keep calling Cable a racist?

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

swickles posted:

I honestly forget, why does Deadpool keep calling Cable a racist?

he killed black tom

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Gavok posted:

I always liked how Death Battle handled Superman vs. Goku. They animated this big fight and had Superman win, explaining that Superman has Goku's top form beat in every category to a huge degree. The closing statement was that Goku's deal is that he's constantly breaking his limits while Superman has no limits to begin with.

Years of angry DBZ fans complaining followed while the Death Battle guys shrugged and went, "We don't even like Superman. We think Goku is way more interesting. But seriously, Superman trumps him in every way."

Finally, they did a rematch episode because Goku had since upgraded into two more forms and Superman gained some new power or something. While a lot of people expected Goku to win this time (why else would they do it?), instead they animated him as getting clowned even harder with a lengthy follow-up explaining that, no fooling, Superman has this because he's more ridiculously overpowered than you realize.

This is why power level discussions are dumb. What matters is who is a more interesting character.

Also anyone who unironically brings Saitama into power level discussions is missing the point of one punch man

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

AnEdgelord posted:

Also anyone who unironically brings Saitama into power level discussions is missing the point of one punch man

Or is getting the point very right, because bringing up Saitama is a great way to shut down stupid conversations like that. It's basically his whole deal.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
He's kind of funny to me that they have Deadpool as woke or whatever.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Grendels Dad posted:

Or is getting the point very right, because bringing up Saitama is a great way to shut down stupid conversations like that. It's basically his whole deal.

TBH i'd file that under "ironically"

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

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Gavok posted:

I always liked how Death Battle handled Superman vs. Goku. They animated this big fight and had Superman win, explaining that Superman has Goku's top form beat in every category to a huge degree. The closing statement was that Goku's deal is that he's constantly breaking his limits while Superman has no limits to begin with.

Years of angry DBZ fans complaining followed while the Death Battle guys shrugged and went, "We don't even like Superman. We think Goku is way more interesting. But seriously, Superman trumps him in every way."

Finally, they did a rematch episode because Goku had since upgraded into two more forms and Superman gained some new power or something. While a lot of people expected Goku to win this time (why else would they do it?), instead they animated him as getting clowned even harder with a lengthy follow-up explaining that, no fooling, Superman has this because he's more ridiculously overpowered than you realize.

That had to be the dumbest DeathBattle ever. The rematch was done right when Dragonball Super was launched and Goku just got Super Saiyan God, they missed Goku getting like 100x more powerful or something to the point where he eclipses all of Superman's stats taken from the episode.

Also the notion of "Superman has no limits while Goku can break any limit", sounds smart but is really dumb. It's not like Superman has never been defeated in battle before.

punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 22:12 on May 24, 2018

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
Superman vs Vegito (SSJ -> Blue -> UI)

No time limit merger

Raw Strength: Superman
Speed: Vegito (Instant Transmission gives the edge and if he had UI, he'd instinctively be able react to Superman)
Durability: Superman (Vegito would need sensu beans to recover health/stamina at some point, not sure what limitations Superman has to being exhausted)
Beam/Intangibles: Vegito (Has a lot of powers to pull out of rear end)
Intelligence and Wisdom: Superman
Attitude and Personality: Vegito
Grit: Vegito

It would be a solid match. It would be more of a question of when Vegito gets tired that'll allow Superman's inevitable victory.

I see this fight going as Vegito over-confident, strong up front for an offensive, surprising Superman and sparring with him but Superman's durability pulling him through. Mid game will show Vegito can't take hits from Superman for too long so it's going to be keep away beam battle and Vegito being creative with his powers. Late game will have Superman figuring out Vegito's tricks, Vegito going low on stamina and needing beans, and pulling a Spirit Bomb to which Superman is going to survive it. Finally Superman still being able to go and Vegito drained, it will take one punch to put him down for the count.

It boils down to Superman's durability and stamina being superior because it would be an attrition fight.

Now if Vegito can figure out that Superman needs a yellow sun....but not sure he's that smart to figure it out versus being told.

Gatts fucked around with this message at 22:48 on May 24, 2018

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
You all need to be stuffed into a locker.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


punk rebel ecks posted:

That had to be the dumbest DeathBattle ever.

Dumbest Death Battle ever was Flash vs. Quicksilver because from the moment it was announced, everyone wondered why they were wasting an episode on an obvious mismatch.

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punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Gavok posted:

Dumbest Death Battle ever was Flash vs. Quicksilver because from the moment it was announced, everyone wondered why they were wasting an episode on an obvious mismatch.

LMAO. I remember that one.

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