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Flesnolk posted:ozeki kawazoe when Maybe 2024 if he stays healthy and keeps the wins coming? *edit* Oh poo poo I didn’t know salt bae had diabetes. Maybe it’s best for his health if he retires? 
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Bentai posted:Maybe 2024 if he stays healthy and keeps the wins coming? Retiring from sumo would probably be to everyone's health benefit, but the number one guy in the sport got to that spot despite dealing with diabetes, so hopefully Terutsuyoshi can get it under control and get back to his winning ways before having to hang up his belt. But yeah, I didn't know another top-division Teru had it, either. Isegahama stable might need to renew their recipes.
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Nativity In Black posted:This video is one of the things that got me into sumo and made me an instant Tochi fan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RVTLgT7K6A I got curious after reading these posts about Tochinoshin and looked up the records for tsuridashi (winning by lift-out) in the sumo database. Turns out it used to be a fair bit more common, so you have to scroll for a while to reach Tochinoshin's 25 victories. The unquestioned leader in tsuridashi was Myobudani, active from 1954 to 1969. On the lighter end of sumo wrestlers at 6'2" and 250 pounds, he had a fairly successful career in the upper echelon of makuuchi, topping out at sekiwake and securing four jun-yusho. He won no fewer than 191 sekitori matches by tsuridashi, making it his most common winning technique and more than a third of his victories. Also, he was a real hunk.  Most Youtube videos of him feature tsuridashi victories, unsurprisingly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzCSskQruGE One of the wrestlers most often on the wrong end of the carry was Narutoumi, active from 1942 to 1961. Standing 6'0" and weighing in at 198 lbs, the majority of his career was in the bottom half of makuuchi, where he lost 40 bouts by tsuridashi. (By comparison, the lightest current sekitori, Enho, is 5'6" and 220 lbs.) Narutoumi only won by tsuridashi a single time, shortly before retiring to avoid relegation to makushita, when he used the technique to defeat up-and-comer Myobudani in July 1960. Here he is wrestling Kagamisato, the 42nd yokozuna. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPuuNOXqkHo
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Winter Stormer posted:Tsuridashi and Myobudani This is an awesome post, thanks for this. My fiancee and I agree, Myobudani is a total smokeshow. e: holy poo poo, he's still alive at 85. Also he converted to be Jehovah's witness, which is why he left the sumo association (can't do martial arts). What a guy. Kenning fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Dec 10, 2022 |
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Dec 10, 2022 23:13
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Having a technique other than yorikiri or oshidashi as the most used kimarite is really unusual! Great post.
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Dec 11, 2022 00:19
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I'm sure this has been answered before but who is the king of henkas?
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Dec 11, 2022 02:03
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Marching Powder posted:I'm sure this has been answered before but who is the king of henkas? Might be tricky, because the henka bit isn't recorded, just the actual technique. I had a look at the king of hatakikomi, because that's what most henkas will probably be recorded as, and it could be Masudayama who had 179 wins from hatakikomi, 41 more than number two. Aminishiki, who you'd think might be henka king, only has 96.
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Elissimpark posted:Might be tricky, because the henka bit isn't recorded, just the actual technique. that's awesome. i didn't even consider henka not being listed as the actual winning move and you still provided extremely interesting stuff. salute.
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Dec 11, 2022 02:20
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I’m more shocked by the beard on that gyoji, ngl. frickin santa claus out here yelling hakkeyoi. fantastic.
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ullerrm posted:I’m more shocked by the beard on that gyoji, ngl. frickin santa claus out here yelling hakkeyoi. fantastic. I wish I could remember the name of the dude*, but if memory serves, he had an allergy or some skin condition that prevented him shaving. Gyoji are supposed to be clean shaven. *yes, I know it technically would be Kimura Shonosuke, but you know what I mean.
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Winter Stormer posted:I got curious after reading these posts about Tochinoshin and looked up the records for tsuridashi (winning by lift-out) in the sumo database. Turns out it used to be a fair bit more common, so you have to scroll for a while to reach Tochinoshin's 25 victories. yo this channel is really good. Here is some stuff from 2004, featuring Ama aka Harumafuji, Hakuho, Kisenosato, and of course Asashoryu. 3 future Yokozunas at a fairly small size and young age already tearing it up is fun to see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgMpP4pH0y4
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Yeah this is amazing, it's not hi-def or anything but it's by far the least-artifacted version of the pre-Kintamayama 00's bashos i've seen, hope they have more to upload! (For comparison, here's the current best-quality versions of the Hakuho-Asashoryu bouts that decided Haru 2007.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cret-HTVRk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF4nIdi8w8I
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ullerrm posted:I’m more shocked by the beard on that gyoji, ngl. frickin santa claus out here yelling hakkeyoi. fantastic. my hypothetical rikishi avatar for fantasy has a gimmick where after the match regardless of whether he won or lost or what the question was, he'd respond with a review of the gyoji's 'hakkeyoi', assessing the volume, conviction, and how much fighting spirit he felt flow through him. the old men hate this.
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Dec 11, 2022 05:55
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I loving love Hakuho.
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I have been posting on these dead forums for nearly twenty years, and watching sumo for nearly thirty, and only just discovered this thread thanks to Jeffrey of YOSPOS's forums update. Incredible scenes. Now I have a whole back catalogue to catch up on. I'm so happy.
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Welcome to the sumo thread! Hatsu is just around the corner, if you think about it.
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GoatSeeGuy posted:In semi-scandal news, Terutsuyoshi was photographed out and about after calling in sick to the last regional tour and a tabloid got ahold of it. Apparently it’s already been dealt with in the stable, but they promised a follow up story, this is it. The marriage is nice but the diabetes is very bad news I remember that story from a while back about a young ex-sumo dying extremely horribly and slowly of diabetes. It was horrifying. Between that and the constant concussions they really need some aftercare for these guys otherwise theyr dooming a lot of them to some very nasty fates.
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Yeah, the average life expectancy for a rikishi is about 65, I think. Compared to the Japanese average, it's pretty scary.
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Kenning posted:Welcome to the sumo thread! Hatsu is just around the corner, if you think about it. Good times. I'm a bit behind on the news - I missed most of the November basho because I was caught up in work but I was pleased to Abi take the yusho, he always looks so cheerful to be in the dohyo, like someone just gave him a pack of his favourite sweeties. Is Tochinoshin still somehow petitioning the gods of cruciate ligaments to let him eke out just one more tournament?
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CuriousSymptoms posted:Good times. I'm a bit behind on the news - I missed most of the November basho because I was caught up in work but I was pleased to Abi take the yusho, he always looks so cheerful to be in the dohyo, like someone just gave him a pack of his favourite sweeties. Yeah, he's actually been at M8 for 3 basho in a row and will finally be demoted a bit this time  I still feel like he's more than capable of pulling out an 8-7 from M10 or wherever he ends up, I do wonder what his thoughts are on continuing once he drops to Juryo, Gagamaru hung around there for a while but he wasn't a former Ozeki so it's a bit different.
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The official sumo channel has footage of Asahishō's retirement ceremony. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8JsHBAiSDo The interaction between him and his wife at 1:40 is just 
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Apraxin posted:The only actual tournament in Kansai is in March each year, but the schedule for the winter Jungyo, which is like an official regional tour where most wrestlers will be present and performing exhibition matches for the public, says that they'll have events in Hirakata and Nagaokakyo, which are located between Osaka and Kyoto on 12/12 and 12/13 respectively: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCzK9cZMkqo
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Brut posted:Yeah, he's actually been at M8 for 3 basho in a row and will finally be demoted a bit this time It's such a shame his knees are so shot, his sumo was always entertaining even if it was a bit of a one-trick kimarite style. I'd have liked to have seen him spend more time as Ozeki but it seems to be a cursed rank.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l206kqgHPGY Sumo Prime Time rolling around Ryogoku with Kaisei
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verbal enema posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l206kqgHPGY I want to visit Ryogoku so bad now. That souvenir shop looks so cool!
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net work error posted:I want to visit Ryogoku so bad now. That souvenir shop looks so cool! I'd love to spend an afternoon there, maybe get some of that chankonabe.
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Dec 14, 2022 19:35
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I want real chankonabe so bad
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verbal enema posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l206kqgHPGY Man even when I had tickets to the tournament I didn't explore even 1/10th of that area apparently. Absolutely want to go back and look at all the fun stuff. I remember it being kind of a typical nondescript neighbourhood except it has the kokugikan, edo-tokyo museum, and that awesome ryogoku jr station. Everything else I kind of glazed over, which I now feel really sad about.
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I love Hiro's quiet oh my god as he recovered off camera.
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verbal enema posted:I want real chankonabe so bad Apparently it tastes rank because it's a functional dish with very little seasoning designed to bulk rather than be delicious. I was as surprised as you are when I learned this.
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Lid posted:Apparently it tastes rank because it's a functional dish with very little seasoning designed to bulk rather than be delicious. I was as surprised as you are when I learned this. balls https://twitter.com/HakuhoSho69/status/1603234255827451905?s=20&t=oyp88pBQsaBmNffX7mtp-A what?!
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Presumably that's a typo and he meant to write Sumo Manga and not Manga Manga, but uh yeah, interesting.
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Yokozuna's Fate sounds much more dramatic than the reality of ushering people and selling souvenirs at Basho.
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NJPW wrestle kingdom (early January) is going to allow cheering. Maybe we will hear sumo fans cheering again soon?
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I asked earlier about sumo tickets, and someone quoted me this:Brut posted:Jason (of Jason's sumo channel) speaks highly of the guy who runs https://www.buysumotickets.com/ , I think the earlier you email and ask about it the more availability there is, so I'd send an email and see what he says, especially if you want good seats. We get into Osaka on the 26th, which is the last day for the March basho; would we be wildly unlikely to get tickets for that day?
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Ham Equity posted:I asked earlier about sumo tickets, and someone quoted me this: Might cost a bit more (might not) but I doubt there would be nothing available as long as you're not asking last minute, even if we were talking about one of the Tokyo basho, but especially the others.
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all i can say is that buysumotickets works very well. i used it for three pro wrestling shows in 2019. they email you a voucher you can redeem at any 7-11. if youv’ve never been to japan before you want to familiarize yourself with 7/11’s anyway as their atms work well with foreign debit cards as opposed to many others
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Lid posted:Apparently it tastes rank because it's a functional dish with very little seasoning designed to bulk rather than be delicious. I was as surprised as you are when I learned this. Anyone in here ever try making it and have tips for making it taste better?
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It's basically a hot pot style soup, I think that there's as many recipes for it as people who have cooked it. I think that meatballs are a bit of a defining characteristic though.
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And only chicken, which are two-legged, because you only want to have two legs on the ground and not four e: I'm guessing duck is okay, too, but maybe not as easy to source in that kind of bulk.
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