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Still, your initial complaint was "who's going to play if they might lose". There's something to be said for variety. Some people aren't married to dota and like to play the field. The game doesn't need millions of people. Only enough.
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Kylra posted:Still, your initial complaint was "who's going to play if they might lose". Warhammer's Destruction side would like to have a word with you.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 20:01 |
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If it's like the pirates of the burning sea blackbeard server situation, it was more like "guaranteed to lose". Which means they quit.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 20:04 |
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Dibs on fir bog, lf another fir bog to connect with.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 20:21 |
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I can't wait to use the ability customization to tweak my abilities to match whatever overpowered flavor of the month build there is
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 21:12 |
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Kylra posted:You have to be online for the entirety of the 60m DOTA game so I don't think your comparison is very apt. Plus a lot of people play DOTA, so why DO so many hundreds of thousands to millions play a game for 60m that they might lose? http://steamcharts.com/app/570 It's probably because if you want to play a pvp game, you have to accept that you have a chance at losing or else your opponents are simply not going to play. They aren't AI driven demons like in Diablo. Character progress will not reset -- guild holdings won't reset as far as I know, but the "war" will reset the map and continent location and holdings every week or so, similar to Blizzard's reset/maintenance cycle. Tenzarin posted:How to play a Mythic MMO: No. You don't lose character progression and they're attempting to create a system that discourages what happened between factions in WAR. Also by nature, three faction systems ALWAYS work better than two faction systems in PVP games. Planetside 1's flow of battle, and GW2 is a good example of why this is, and why WAR wasn't.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 21:46 |
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Tenzarin posted:A PvP MMO let alone a skill based PvP MMO cannot exist in the ranks of MMOs anymore. DAOC worked because the choice was between Everquest(no pvp, old) and UO(no pvp, 2d, old). People don't like to lose a 60m DOTA game or even a 20m LOL game. Why would anyone play a game for 6 months with a chance that they lose.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 22:01 |
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please, dear friends, dont spend money on this
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 22:39 |
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Their policy for refunds seems fair enough to at least try the game out for 60 bones.quote:Who do I contact for support or refunds?
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 00:57 |
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This will probably be very fun but you can bet your money you gave them two years ago that the second delay in July won't be the last, this will be a pretty solid MMO in 2017. Then in 2018 Shroud of the Avatar will be fleshed out, making all of the money I spent in 2013 more valuable than BitCoins!!!
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 03:22 |
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extra stout posted:This will probably be very fun but you can bet your money you gave them two years ago that the second delay in July won't be the last, this will be a pretty solid MMO in 2017. Then in 2018 Shroud of the Avatar will be fleshed out, making all of the money I spent in 2013 more valuable than BitCoins!!! I really kind of wish that SoTA offered refunds like CU
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 09:55 |
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They let Beta 1 people in today, I got about an hour in, there's glimmers of potential around the edges, but it sure as gently caress is an alpha.
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 17:35 |
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Orv posted:They let Beta 1 people in today, I got about an hour in, there's glimmers of potential around the edges, but it sure as gently caress is an alpha. Its made by Mythic that means its pretty close to release.
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 17:36 |
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You seem real hung up on Mythic.
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 18:10 |
he is mostly right but thats just because all mmo developers are just awful
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 18:20 |
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Game developers in general are awful
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 18:46 |
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Mark's team actually seems pretty cool. I do my morning run past their offices and have ran into (and spoken with them) during lunch when i see them out and about. I've bought into the product because I think it's cool, and I'm not concerned about buying into the project because I know which office to place the flaming dog poo at if things go south.
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# ? Aug 7, 2015 19:00 |
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I had no idea until I got an email today that I had contributed enough to be in this beta. This is a nice surprise. EDIT: logged into the game and it immediately crashed. GG EDIT: "/hideui perfhud" is the pro-est command for those in beta Nearly killed a CSE guy but he ran away with about 30hp and i only had melee weapons and couldn't chase him down. Melee feels clunky as hell. Budgie fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Aug 7, 2015 |
# ? Aug 7, 2015 20:41 |
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quote:A couple of weeks back, I told our Beta 1 Backers that they were going to be able to access select Alpha tests. We also said that one of the ways we were going to help make up for the delay was by opening the servers for longer periods of time for our Alpha folks, as well. As such, I’m pleased to announce the first round of Friday Night Fights! Basically now the alpha servers are going to be up every week. Right now it's mostly revolving around stress testing, but it's interesting to see how fast they are making progress.
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# ? Aug 9, 2015 07:41 |
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This looks and sounds pretty bad, but I did think that DAoC was the better of the 4 or so MMOs out at the time when the only real options were UO, DAoC, EQ, and AC, so maybe there is something here worth caring about? Probably not, honestly.
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# ? Aug 9, 2015 11:23 |
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goldjas posted:This looks and sounds pretty bad, but I did think that DAoC was the better of the 4 or so MMOs out at the time when the only real options were UO, DAoC, EQ, and AC, so maybe there is something here worth caring about? Probably not, honestly. AC 2 was released after DAOC, it bombed and died. DAOC just thrived because there was little choice and all the LotR movies started coming out. Mythic hardly balanced anything ever and when they did they balanced them into the ground.
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# ? Aug 10, 2015 14:55 |
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Tenzarin posted:and all the LotR movies started coming out.
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# ? Aug 10, 2015 15:21 |
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goldjas posted:This looks and sounds pretty bad, but I did think that DAoC was the better of the 4 or so MMOs out at the time when the only real options were UO, DAoC, EQ, and AC, so maybe there is something here worth caring about? Probably not, honestly. Well, from my experience playing, the ability modification system, and a few others, really shine and show the potential of what you can do with builds. Also the bane/boon system. Want 10% more fire damage? Perfect! But you need to take a negative, such as 5% vulnerability to physical or something. You can do more for adjusting your play style than you could in any MMO in recent memory. Race impacts your abilities, as well as faction, class, ability modification, and boons. It's very layered and well put together.
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# ? Aug 10, 2015 21:15 |
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I've always wished there was an MMO game that could replicate the Keep/Relic/Stealth/8 man system of DAoC. Is/was there anything else like it?
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# ? Aug 10, 2015 23:25 |
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im gay posted:I've always wished there was an MMO game that could replicate the Keep/Relic/Stealth/8 man system of DAoC. Is/was there anything else like it? many have tried, all have perished
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# ? Aug 10, 2015 23:45 |
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Is this a tab-targeted cooldown game?
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 00:51 |
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im gay posted:I've always wished there was an MMO game that could replicate the Keep/Relic/Stealth/8 man system of DAoC. Is/was there anything else like it? Think of CU as the successor to DAoC as far as many good mechanics. Space Bat posted:Is this a tab-targeted cooldown game? This is a game with many targeted abilities, and some skillshot, similar to GW2, so kind of a hybrid as far as it currently stands. I'm not sure if there will be a GCD in release, if so it will likely be short.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 02:13 |
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Space Bat posted:Is this a tab-targeted cooldown game? No GCD, but there are cooldowns across all abilities using the same base. So when you use a shout based ability, all of those go on cooldown.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 08:51 |
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I haven't paid attention to this game for over a year and I heard the beta was delayed. Any idea when it will actually offer something persistent rather than the timed events like the friday night fights they were running?
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:30 |
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Bait and Swatch posted:I haven't paid attention to this game for over a year and I heard the beta was delayed. Any idea when it will actually offer something persistent rather than the timed events like the friday night fights they were running? Entirely from my rear end I'd say probably late Q1. Of course if you want persistence that won't get wiped at end of beta, probably more like early Q4.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 20:17 |
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Yeah but can I be a bright wizard and punt stupid elves off volcanic rocks into lava?
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# ? Aug 12, 2015 19:14 |
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There are already knockback modifiers which do a frankly terrifying amount of damage, but at this point basically anything besides there being an ability crafting system is all in the air.
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# ? Aug 12, 2015 19:17 |
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Extra posted:Yeah but can I be a bright wizard and punt stupid elves off volcanic rocks into lava? Ah Bright wizard the class so good could own people 10 levels above them. They really made sure they were balanced.
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# ? Aug 12, 2015 19:17 |
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Orv posted:There are already knockback modifiers which do a frankly terrifying amount of damage, but at this point basically anything besides there being an ability crafting system is all in the air. I hope the AoE tractor beams are just as deadly
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# ? Aug 12, 2015 19:32 |
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Tenzarin posted:Ah Bright wizard the class so good could own people 10 levels above them. They really made sure they were balanced. biggest reason i left the game
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# ? Aug 12, 2015 20:11 |
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PS: The stealth concept sounds interesting
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# ? Aug 12, 2015 20:28 |
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So i can play this now if i give them 60 bucks?
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# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:12 |
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That gif is Warhammer online, I would wait in till the game is never released to throw money at it.
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# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:15 |
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malhavok posted:So i can play this now if i give them 60 bucks? Limited time testing currently, I'd really recommend you hold off for the time being.
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# ? Aug 12, 2015 21:23 |
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There is limited weekly testing, you can wait till closer to more Alphas/betas. Right now each class has like 3-5 abilities that work properly, but the rudimentary modification system is in. It's actually quite fun to play with and the depth will be considerable.
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