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Hmm it seems like TFF is full of myopic fans who think the first 4 or 5 games mean everything in fact there are 16 games in a season. Another house of cards has collapsed. The Falcons are a joke.
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I think it's less the Falcons are bad and more the hype around them was really strangely overblown. Their set of victories weren't much better than the Panthers (outside of blowing out the Texans) but they hype around them was like they had beaten a bunch of good teams rather than feasting on an early schedule only slightly tougher than Carolina's. They're probably decent but not as good as everyone was saying they were and they have a good chance of wining the NFCS just by having a schedule somehow even weaker than the Panthers.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:18
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Gorelab posted:I think it's less the Falcons are bad and more the hype around them was really strangely overblown. Their set of victories weren't much better than the Panthers (outside of blowing out the Texans) but they hype around them was like they had beaten a bunch of good teams rather than feasting on an early schedule only slightly tougher than Carolina's. They're probably decent but not as good as everyone was saying they were and they have a good chance of wining the NFCS just by having a schedule somehow even weaker than the Panthers. Well they have an easier schedule because they did horribly last year - finishing 3rd in your division and then getting a poo poo load stronger next year tends to work out as you play all the other 3rd placed teams from the previous year in your conference.
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CyberPingu posted:Well they have an easier schedule because they did horribly last year - finishing 3rd in your division and then getting a poo poo load stronger next year tends to work out as you play all the other 3rd placed teams from the previous year in your conference. You are literally talking about 2 games per season. That's not gonna make or break your schedule, especially since past performance is not necessarily an indicator of future success. They have an easier schedule because they play the AFC South and NFC East instead of the AFC and NFC North.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:51
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African AIDS cum posted:Hmm it seems like TFF is full of myopic fans who think the first 4 or 5 games mean everything in fact there are 16 games in a season. Another house of cards has collapsed. The Falcons are a joke. i think they count as much as the last 11 or 12 games but ill have to get officiating expert mike carey on the horn to confirm FizFashizzle posted:They haven't gotten a "poo poo load stronger." yes no one has paid attention to Dan Quinn's defenses or Kyle Shanahan's offenses until literally this week shiksa fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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CyberPingu posted:Well they have an easier schedule because they did horribly last year - finishing 3rd in your division and then getting a poo poo load stronger next year tends to work out as you play all the other 3rd placed teams from the previous year in your conference. They haven't gotten a "poo poo load stronger." They installed new schemes on both sides of the ball no one has tape on yet.
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GaussianCopula posted:You are literally talking about 2 games per season. That's not gonna make or break your schedule, especially since past performance is not necessarily an indicator of future success. They have an easier schedule because they play the AFC South and NFC East instead of the AFC and NFC North. So do the Panthers. It was directly in relation to me being a bit wry that they get an even easier one than us. I do think the Falcons have improved a large amount I just don't think they are far and away the best team in the NFCS with the Panthers being super weaker like the media seemed to be crowing about the last few weeks. But I'm a bit of a homer.
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Gorelab posted:So do the Panthers. It was directly in relation to me being a bit wry that they get an even easier one than us. I do think the Falcons have improved a large amount I just don't think they are far and away the best team in the NFCS with the Panthers being super weaker like the media seemed to be crowing about the last few weeks. But I'm a bit of a homer. Please understand that the media and by proxy a lot of football fans are paying attention to teams that have players that perform well in Fantasy Football.
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GaussianCopula posted:You are literally talking about 2 games per season. That's not gonna make or break your schedule, especially since past performance is not necessarily an indicator of future success. They have an easier schedule because they play the AFC South and NFC East instead of the AFC and NFC North. In the NFC 2 games is usually what costs you a playoff birth
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NC-17 posted:Y'all jumping burying the Falcons a little too soon here. They weren't ever really as good as their undefeated record, but they're still a very good team that is probably going to win the South. I agree with this. The Panthers are gonna probably improve to 8-8 with atlanta taking the division most likely. Been saying this since preseason contingent upon our defense sucking (which they do for all but the 2nd half of last nights game).
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GaussianCopula posted:Please understand that the media and by proxy a lot of football fans are paying attention to teams that have players that perform well in Fantasy Football. This is very annoying. I don't give a poo poo about fantasy football gamboling. Bring back Jimmy the Greek picking winners against the spread, (and being racist) and the Lions kicking field goals with 4 seconds to go down by 21 to cover the spread.
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Oct 16, 2015 13:50
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FizFashizzle posted:They installed new schemes on both sides of the ball no one has tape on yet. Sure they do. Its not like Kyle Shannahan and Dan Quinn are re-inventing themselves, they're doing what they've always done with different personnel. The Falcons defense is smoke and and mirrors but their offense can put up 24-27 a game with Julio in the lineup.
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African AIDS cum posted:Hmm it seems like TFF is full of myopic fans who think the first 4 or 5 games mean everything in fact there are 16 games in a season. Another house of cards has collapsed. The Falcons are a joke. If you think that's bad, you should watch what people say in the middle of games when their team is ahead before they get exposed as garbage
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Oct 16, 2015 14:06
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Cavauro posted:If you think that's bad, you should watch what people say in the middle of games when their team is ahead before they get exposed as garbage Its fun watching Saints / Falcons games in the TFF GDT because the fans from both teams know whats up and that chaos could reign at any time.
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That Works posted:Its fun watching Saints / Falcons games in the TFF GDT because the fans from both teams know whats up and that chaos could reign at any time. such as things like a center who's allowed to play for a team in the national football league snapping the ball into his own rear end in a top hat twice in a half
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Oct 16, 2015 14:14
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commy gun posted:Sure they do. Its not like Kyle Shannahan and Dan Quinn are re-inventing themselves, they're doing what they've always done with different personnel. The Falcons defense is smoke and and mirrors but their offense can put up 24-27 a game with Julio in the lineup. Regardless of previous destinations these are all new players and all new circumstances. Dan Quinn did something in Seattle he doesn't have the players to do in Atlanta, and Shanahan has better pieces here then he had at previous stops. You're insinuating there never needs to be an adjustment period for new teams simply because tape exists on them somewhere and that's just demonstrably false. Julio will get his but obviously Freeman is going to cool down and Ryan is currently at Alex Smith levels of ypa. That Works posted:Its fun watching Saints / Falcons games in the TFF GDT because the fans from both teams know whats up and that chaos could reign at any time. FizFashizzle posted:reminder that the saints beat the falcons all the loving time under worse circumstances. sword_man.gif posted:such as things like a center who's allowed to play for a team in the national football league snapping the ball into his own rear end in a top hat twice in a half 
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Oct 16, 2015 14:17
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African AIDS cum posted:Hmm it seems like TFF is full of myopic fans who think the first 4 or 5 games mean everything in fact there are 16 games in a season. Another house of cards has collapsed. The Falcons are a joke. Oh, so it's the 6th game that's the bellweather. Who knew.
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Oct 16, 2015 14:20
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Huh. I suddenly feel the urge to misuse the term quarter pole.
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Oct 16, 2015 14:23
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FizFashizzle posted:You're insinuating there never needs to be an adjustment period for new teams simply because tape exists on them somewhere and that's just demonstrably false. There's staple plays and concepts for Kyle Shannahan's offense that you can see in his previous stops. Zone blocking, play action boots, bubble screens (ugh), there are absolutely things you know are coming when you play against certain teams/head coaches/coordinators. Its not the end all in game planning but it'd certainly help.
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Oct 16, 2015 14:25
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loving stop shooting yourself in the foot, Falcons, TIA.
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That was about a ugly game I have seen by the Falcons in quite some time, and if they don't literally fumble the game away, they escape the Superdome still undefeated. Saints vs Falcons is always full of this crazy poo poo, so I did not automatically chalk up a W to this game because you just never loving know. That said, there are some bright spots to hang your hat on if you are a Falcons fan. Mainly, we have a legit running game and we have a legit run defense. The pass protection last night was terrible, and the pass rush was back to non existent, which is cause for concern given the state of the Saints OLine but even with all the miscues, until late the Falcons had a chance. The Falcons will still win the South this year, Carolina's undefeated record will fall on Sunday and all will be right in the world once more.
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Oct 16, 2015 14:45
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Also, gotta give it to the Saints. They played a good game, especially on defense. They deserved the W.
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Oct 16, 2015 14:51
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Shath Hole posted:Also, gotta give it to the Saints. They played a good game, especially on defense. They deserved the W. At least 9, but even conservatively 17 points were left on the field by the Falcons in the first half alone. They literally fumbled the win away from themselves. The only good to come out of that game is the possibility of a 2016 Rob Ryan Saints defense.
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Oct 16, 2015 14:54
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Chilichimp posted:At least 9, but even conservatively 17 points were left on the field by the Falcons in the first half alone. They literally fumbled the win away from themselves. Of course, I referenced that in my first post, but they took advantage, scored where they needed to (they even missed two field goals don't forget) and put us away in the end. Matt Ryan is starting to piss me off though, he needs to get rid of the ball and not take stupid sacks.
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Chilichimp posted:At least 9, but even conservatively 17 points were left on the field by the Falcons in the first half alone. They literally fumbled the win away from themselves. Nah that whole organization is about to get blown up and sold/transferred. The only question is whether or not Loomis will be around next year.
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Oct 16, 2015 15:02
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Shath Hole posted:Matt Ryan is starting to piss me off though, he needs to get rid of the ball and not take stupid sacks. i think he gave up tbh
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Shath Hole posted:Also, gotta give it to the Saints. They played a good game, especially on defense. They deserved the W. Thanks. Yeah that 2nd half D was completely unexpected... I did not think we would have adjusted like that for the 2nd. Hadn't seen that from these guys this year.
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Ryan doesn't have a lot of options right now. If Julio is taken out, and the other team decides to cover Freeman out of the backfield (looking at you Washington) no one else is getting open. Roddy White is basically dead, Tamme and Hankerson are just dudes.
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Chilichimp posted:At least 9, but even conservatively 17 points were left on the field by the Falcons in the first half alone. They literally fumbled the win away from themselves. Unless they completely turn around and become ultra dominant, Rob Ryan will not be on the team next year. Gimme dat ball!
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Oct 16, 2015 15:25
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The fact that my team is rapidly fermenting compost does nothing to dampen my enthusiasm for trash talking the Falcons.
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Woooooo 66% of a winning season. One more win over the falcons and we can pack this up and fire people with pride.
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Grozz Nuy posted:Unfortunately the Falcons don't have the Rams on their schedule this year, so we can't confirm or deny their fraud status for certain. If they don't beat the Titans then they will officially be frauds FizFashizzle posted:Ryan doesn't have a lot of options right now. Free Hardy
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The only chance the Chargers have this week is to get into a shootout with Aaron loving Rodgers and somehow have the ball last.
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Cavauro posted:If you think that's bad, you should watch what people say in the middle of games when their team is ahead before they get exposed as garbage This is an underappreciated riposte 
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Main concern for Falcons fans is dropping a divisional game to be 1.5 games behind Carolina in that tie-breaker (0-1 vs 2-0). If one team sweeps the other then it's not going to be an issue, but if they split then Carolina will have one notable advantage. That being said here are the remaining opponents that don't overlap (i.e. does not include common matches vs Ten, Ind, T.B, and N.O): Atlanta: @Jac, @S.F, vMin, @T.B Carolina: @Sea, vG.B, vPhi, @Dal, vWas, @NYG Dallas is expected to have Romo back by then, so Carolina has many more strong opponents than Atlanta does.
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That game briefly had me thinking the Saints were a real team that matters.
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Ross Angeles posted:The only chance the Chargers have this week is to get into a shootout with Aaron loving Rodgers and somehow have the ball last. I was going to give you poo poo because those of us with teams in the NFC North have to do it twice a year, but lately the other teams in the division (mine included) are so weak it's really a push. Also it sucks when people one-up your poo poo instead of commiserating, so instead I will just say good luck and we feel your pain.
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Yaws posted:That game briefly had me thinking the Saints were a real team that matters. Had our defense been operating smoothly like that from the beginning of the season we'd probably be undefeated going into that game. Probably woulda needed a little bit better OL play also though.
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