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VikingSkull posted:they still make Cherokees and Grand Cherokees Nope. They recently came out with a thing they are CALLING a cherokee, but it is nothing like the originals. The real line went out of production in 96. Its successor was the liberty, which was hot garbage all around. No one cares about grand cherokees except soccer moms.
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jeep died at the hands of the EPA and NHTSA. americans dump coffee on their poo poo and sue macdomnalds. americans want 6k lb trucks that are good on gas and have at least 4 touchscreens. americans pay premium dollar for trucks that look like they could moab but would never do that to a lease. americans get iphones so people can tell they arent poor i am a former employee of chrysler and americans killed jeeps
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mexicans love slammed GMC trucks and blacks love donks. an endless rivalry
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Nathilus posted:Nope. They recently came out with a thing they are CALLING a cherokee, but it is nothing like the originals. The real line went out of production in 96. Its successor was the liberty, which was hot garbage all around. fair point
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VikingSkull posted:fair point  i will never own an american car again in my life
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VikingSkull posted:they still make Cherokees and Grand Cherokees In name only. They are no longer body on frame and they ditched the inline 6 for some lovely v6. I helped pull a jeep out of a ditch last year and there wasn't even a loving tow hitch on it, had to wrap the strap around the axle. Fuckin new jeeps look like Kias now, but that's what sells. People don't want a rugged car they want a luxury SUV that says 4wd for that one time they go camping and accidentally turn off down a logging road for 25ft. I have a coworker who refuses to buy a small car because "it will get hung up on snow" it's like, man, we drove loving model As here without a problem I'm pretty sure if you slap some snow tires on a mazda 2 you'll be fine
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HATECUBE posted:jeep died at the hands of the EPA and NHTSA.  A jeep cherokee was my first car and I'm STILL butthurt that it finally died. Such a good car. I loved the boxy look of it, it was pretty reliable, and with that 4.0 had more power than you could actually use unless you wanted to haul poo poo or spin out all over the place. Downside, 15 mpg. But god drat if they had just continued to refine that model I would still be driving one. I despise you for your corporate complicity in this motherfucking travesty. 
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Breakfast Feud posted:In name only. They are no longer body on frame and they ditched the inline 6 for some lovely v6. I helped pull a jeep out of a ditch last year and there wasn't even a loving tow hitch on it, had to wrap the strap around the axle. Fuckin new jeeps look like Kias now, but that's what sells. People don't want a rugged car they want a luxury SUV that says 4wd for that one time they go camping and accidentally turn off down a logging road for 25ft. Model A's actually had a poo poo ton of ground clearance also American car ownership is fine, but only if you are mechanically inclined sort of like an old British car, or a boat
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that's badass
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I love the levies on imported pickups though. I will never buy a Tacoma because why bother when I can just buy 5 used Ford/GMC/Chevys for the same price? Yeah it's a better truck but LOL @ paying more than $5 for a wheel bearing
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Breakfast Feud posted:In name only. They are no longer body on frame and they ditched the inline 6 for some lovely v6. I helped pull a jeep out of a ditch last year and there wasn't even a loving tow hitch on it, had to wrap the strap around the axle. Fuckin new jeeps look like Kias now, but that's what sells. People don't want a rugged car they want a luxury SUV that says 4wd for that one time they go camping and accidentally turn off down a logging road for 25ft. FTGE
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that car still exists, and isn't solely a drawing, either 
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VikingSkull posted:Model A's actually had a poo poo ton of ground clearance I get what you're saying my dude, but we have plows here. Not to mention the weight of a modern car really prevents it from getting hung up, unless you're a pansy with the gas pedal. Slap a set of winter tires on your little Kia and you're golden. If the snow on the road is too deep to drive in, no one is going to work anyway. All the farmers have Kias/Hyundais to drive into town with, and if they can do it then so can you city folks.
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Breakfast Feud posted:I get what you're saying my dude, but we have plows here. Not to mention the weight of a modern car really prevents it from getting hung up, unless you're a pansy with the gas pedal. Slap a set of winter tires on your little Kia and you're golden. If the snow on the road is too deep to drive in, no one is going to work anyway. lol I live in rural NY and used to drive a 92 Accord in blizzards driving in the snow is a skill almost totally separated from the vehicle you use, in many cases I actually prefer RWD to FWD or 4x4/AWD when it snows, tbh
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Nathilus posted:
i had nothing to do with what CTC did or had up its rear end during my tenure. i saw many come and and go and most sink to their knees in a puddle of transmission fluid and piss. i watched diamler go and FCA come and everything was a poo poo parade of puke the entire time. i remember exactly 3 historical moments 1. a 4c pulled in for benchmarking and it was cool to look at, i asked the engineer how you were supposed to work on the engine and he told me to gently caress off 2. one of the last pre-production hellcats pulled into the lab and i watched old men scream like little girls at a boyband concert 3. the renegade turbo 6speed was a fun and good car and i took the long way back
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Quick Draw McGraw posted:Because of their high sales volumes and strongly competitive market, pickup trucks offer an amazing value in terms of content for a surprisingly low price If you think they're surprisingly low priced, then you've obviously never bought a relatively new full size pickup truck.
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Dec 5, 2016 03:59
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I see 70s era trucks around occasionally and think they're kind of cool. They don't make them like that anymore.
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BLARGHLE posted:If you think they're surprisingly low priced, then you've obviously never bought a relatively new full size pickup truck. they aren't all King Ranches with baseball gloves for seats, you can get a solidly optioned fullsize for ~30k
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Nathilus posted:Nope. They recently came out with a thing they are CALLING a cherokee, but it is nothing like the originals. The real line went out of production in 96. Its successor was the liberty, which was hot garbage all around. Well they made Cherokees/XJs with the 4.0 until 2001, but other than that you're right.
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american trucks are dead like the subaru legacy gave way to SUVs which are also dead RIP coupes, sedans, wagons, big boxy cruisers, respectable pickups, rugged SUVs and fun i am quietly collecting all the fun cars worth maintaining over the last 20 years for when the machines take over and we arent allowed to buy real cars anymore tomorrow every porsche will be a 4-cly macan
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VikingSkull posted:they aren't all King Ranches with baseball gloves for seats, you can get a solidly optioned fullsize for ~30k Yeah, $35k for a base model Silverado 1500 isn't exactly cheap
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Oh man I remember we once had a Chrysler Neon and to change the spark plugs was this monumental task because of how the engine was place in the engine bay. Also replacing the headlight was terribly hard. And then when you sat in it your field of view was really cut down by the arc of the A Pillar. The upside? The doors closed over top of the roof essentially so you could just yank on them and get a good 2" gap for a dowel/coat hanger when you locked your keys inside. VikingSkull posted:lol I live in rural NY and used to drive a 92 Accord in blizzards I really like FWD sedans for snow driving. They are a lot more forgiving and predictable, with the downside being I don't know how to save one from a spin in the event I gently caress up royally. Plus they are great for windrows, because if you get a running start and manage to pop 3/4s of the car over the drift then you're free and clear whereas a pickup is more likely to get hung up unless it's 4wd. But, on the other hand, pickups are a hoot to drive and if you gently caress up and hit a curb/snowbank/pole you can just drive away like it ain't no thing.
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BLARGHLE posted:Yeah, $35k for a base model Silverado 1500 isn't exactly cheap base model Silverados are like 28k which I guess isn't cheap but it's not 35k either they do make trucks without 4WD
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hatchbacks are coming back they're coming
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VikingSkull posted:base model Silverados are like 28k Why even bother buying a truck without 4WD? Unless you live in a place that never snows, I guess..... I was going to come back with a price retort, but the chevy website is being poo poo BLARGHLE fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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BLARGHLE posted:Why even bother buying a truck without 4WD? Unless you live in a place that never snows, I guess..... Because you just need a vehicle with a large open area in the back to put things into and won't be taking it anywhere off road, and work mainly in areas with maintained roads?
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Wikkheiser posted:hatchbacks are coming back  BLARGHLE posted:Why even bother buying a truck without 4WD? Unless you live in a place that never snows, I guess..... I've had 3 trucks and an El Camino, none were 4WD, and driving in snow is a hoot in something that tail happy my last truck had around 400hp and it got sideways when it rained some people are just dumb, like me
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Almost bougth an AMC eagle but man, gently caress whatever computer system was in those
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you don't need awd for snow. an overtuned crowdwrecker mustang will drive fine in the snow with snow tires that being said awd is king and I am fully erect for the return of hatchbacks
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Breakfast Feud posted:Almost bougth an AMC eagle but man, gently caress whatever computer system was in those I'm pretty sure it was a punch card system they found in a shed
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VikingSkull posted:
RWD and snow is great for screwing around, but sucks when you're actually trying to get anywhere. We had a pretty poo poo winter when I bought my old caprice in '02, so I spent a lot of time spinning tires and sliding around. That being said, I see a lot of SUVs sitting on medians whenever things start to get a little white, and the worst I ever did in that old beast was run over a street sign. That caprice and my old Scottsdale were also very tail happy. It's like chevy didn't realize traction control was a thing until some time in the mid 2000s
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VikingSkull posted:I'm pretty sure it was a punch card system they found in a shed And then someone said "vacuum lines are cool now, right?"
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Driving a RWD anything can be incredibly fun in the snow.
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KennyLoggins posted:
lol who jacks up a truck then sticks to tiny rear end wheels this is loving poo poo tier
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satanic splash-back posted:Driving a RWD anything can be incredibly fun in the snow. If I had to stop for whatever reason, I'd just gun it until my car walked sideways into the curb, then take off Or reverse up hills... Good times
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Nathilus posted:Nope. They recently came out with a thing they are CALLING a cherokee, but it is nothing like the originals. The real line went out of production in 96. Its successor was the liberty, which was hot garbage all around. They made the O.G. Cherokee until '01, pretty much unchanged. Love mine, rare two-door, went 347,000 miles with no major work. Sold it to a house painter and he's still driving it.
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Blast of Confetti posted:lol who jacks up a truck then sticks to tiny rear end wheels this is loving poo poo tier Apparently it's a thing in states with inspections. You slap on the tiny wheels for inspection day and then put your 45" deep tread offroad tires back on when you get home before jerking off furiously in your garage to the thought of parking it with one wheel up on the curb at the nearest hooters.
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