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Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

teh_Broseph posted:

Bought the deluxe pre-order, bought EA early access, in for the $90 ultimate loot box pack, got my dudes all loaded up like:


:getin: and just go ahead and type gg if you see me in a server.

Those upgrades are 2 spooky 4 me!!!

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Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


I guess I'm going to be the rube to ask if any of those perks are true or if you're just trolling. Because Jesus Christ if the former.

Crazyeyes24
Sep 14, 2014

Your good vision is your fatal weakness!

teh_Broseph posted:

Bought the deluxe pre-order, bought EA early access, in for the $90 ultimate loot box pack, got my dudes all loaded up like:


:getin: and just go ahead and type gg if you see me in a server.

I see the fears of pay to win have been greatly exaggerated.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Knifegrab posted:

-The models in this game suck dick. It is quite difficult to tell many of the droid classes apart from one another. Maybe that is cool for "cannon" reasons but it sucks for actual gameplay reasons.

Fidelity > gameplay.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/battlefront/battlefront-2/news/the-last-jedi-season-is-coming drat looks nice also genuine campaign dlc. Also everything’s free.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
teh_Broseph is real, and strong, and my friend. He would never lie about star cards. If I were a Romulan senator I would accept an optolythic data rod from him without question.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Ok some cool stuff here how abou- *head whips to the side like Vince Mcmahon seeing a pretty lady*

quote:

New locations and vehicles will also arrive. On December 13, the cinematic content from Star Wars™: The Last Jedi continues with a new planetary map: Crait.

CRAIT!? The new planet is called Crait?? Holy hell it's the crate planet!

You can't make this stuff up folks!

Crazyeyes24
Sep 14, 2014

Your good vision is your fatal weakness!
But really, what is this progression system?

You unlock additional star card slots by having more and higher ranked cards for a class.
Class-specific loot boxes have different costs and they are just more likely to have loot for that class, not guaranteed.
You must have player rank 10, 15, or 20 to craft tier 2, 3, or 4 cards. You can still get tier 2 or 3 cards from boxes and equip them though.
Weapons are unlocked by number of kills with a class, weapon attachments by kills with the weapon.
Heroes are unlocked with massive sums of credits.

It's just all over the place....

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Chomp8645 posted:

Ok some cool stuff here how abou- *head whips to the side like Vince Mcmahon seeing a pretty lady*


CRAIT!? The new planet is called Crait?? Holy hell it's the crate planet!

You can't make this stuff up folks!

Crait is a planet featured in The Last Jedi. EA had nothing to do with naming it.

Crazyeyes24
Sep 14, 2014

Your good vision is your fatal weakness!
Probably has a small moon named Lu'ut too.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
It's still funny as heck to me!

Crazyeyes24 posted:

But really, what is this progression system?

You unlock additional star card slots by having more and higher ranked cards for a class.
Class-specific loot boxes have different costs and they are just more likely to have loot for that class, not guaranteed.
You must have player rank 10, 15, or 20 to craft tier 2, 3, or 4 cards. You can still get tier 2 or 3 cards from boxes and equip them though.
Weapons are unlocked by number of kills with a class, weapon attachments by kills with the weapon.
Heroes are unlocked with massive sums of credits.

It's just all over the place....

Thanks. I'll add this and some of the other stuff that's come up to the OP after work today.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

Knifegrab posted:

-No way to reliably play with friends. Sure you can join a group, and enter a server together, but with the bullshit forced ad-hoc squad system, you will only ever be on the same team with your friends but pretty much never actually moving together as a single unit and actually helping each other out.
-The models in this game suck dick. It is quite difficult to tell many of the droid classes apart from one another. Maybe that is cool for "cannon" reasons but it sucks for actual gameplay reasons.
-Speaking of glance value the cards totally gently caress it up. You have no way of knowing if assault class is going to jet pack up, or sprint boost at you with a shotgun and then gain ~40% of his health back on a kill.
-Speaking of cards, spending money can make you a nigh unkillable god compared to the unwashed masses thanks to the dumb p2w mechanics they are baking into the game. Sure I suppose over time this will get better as the poors begin to unlock things in game but for a good long while the game is gonna be dominated by nerds with their mom's credit card.
-You have to decide between grinding for loot crate unlocks to stay competitive or grinding for the immensely expensive heroes.
-No real conquest mode.

The worst of these sins is definitely the inability to play with your friends. What a loving waste of time.

the play area is pretty constrained though? This isn't BF where you are 8 miles apart over a given point

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.

ShineDog posted:

the play area is pretty constrained though? This isn't BF where you are 8 miles apart over a given point

In the demo, which I put ~10 hours into, I can count on my hands the number of times my 4 man squad ever got to actually work together.

Regardless, even if the maps are smaller, having to basically hang out at spawn while the rest of your squad gets killed and respawns is idiotic. Especially when on that demo map you could spawn on complete opposite sides of the road.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I wanna see a Canto Bight map. Star Wars meets casino gunfights.

moosecow333
Mar 15, 2007

Super-Duper Supermen!
I'm a bit confused on why people claim they aren't able to play with friends. While there is no ability to spawn on people you can still see who your friends are and coordinate with them over Discord or a different VoIP program.

My friends and I had no trouble pushing objectives together during the beta and they never play first person shooters.

And looking at the maps I'm glad there's no Squad spawning. The maps seem pretty tight and I personally think squad spawning would throw everything off.

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.

moosecow333 posted:

I'm a bit confused on why people claim they aren't able to play with friends. While there is no ability to spawn on people you can still see who your friends are and coordinate with them over Discord or a different VoIP program.

My friends and I had no trouble pushing objectives together during the beta and they never play first person shooters.

And looking at the maps I'm glad there's no Squad spawning. The maps seem pretty tight and I personally think squad spawning would throw everything off.

When the map narrows to a single hallway? Sure. But there is no way you could reliably team with friends during the first phase of the demo map.

Is it possible? Sure it can happen, but I don't play games with my friends for the off-chance I can occasionally play with them.

edit: VVV yes that.

teh_Broseph
Oct 21, 2010

THE LAST METROID IS IN
CATTIVITY. THE GALAXY
IS AT PEACE...
Lipstick Apathy
Folks aren't saying it's technically impossible, just that it's annoying af.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
Holy moly, starfighter on Kamino is UNBELIEVABLY pretty.

Except no one can play the objective on any map yet, so it's always a phase 1 loss

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Take some god drat pics and gifs for me to put in the OP!!!!

Orchestrated Mess
Dec 12, 2009

Fuck art. Let's dance.

Canceled my preorder after the beta, but over the past couple of days I decided I'll just buy it anyway. But I saw this video today, which despite the baitclick title, pretty fairly shows some of the unlockables being way overpowered. I don't really care if people want to pay to unlock things quickly, but things like 50% less time to lock on as a spaceship and a 100% boost on health regen time? Just seems like breaking into this game is going to be too frustrating, especially with how poorly some of the weapons were often balanced for the last game during certain patches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GynsazTkww

I'm not trying to convince anyone not to buy or enjoy the game themselves, I'm just really personally disappointed as someone who put nearly 300 hours into the first game and was amped for this one more than any other game coming out. I'll wait to see if there are any changes, and honestly I'll probably break in weakness when it comes out, but I don't see why Dice went with such a different model than their other games. I'd rather pay for a season pass or DLC.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
I guess everyone used up their 10 hours, huh

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Just re-posting an video on the old Battlefront thread, but this is still pretty shady as gently caress.

-

One of DICE's producers talking to Angry Joe about how shady EA's Battlefront 2 is playing out, almost like you need to to buy a poo poo-ton of loot boxes on top of a newly released game to have fulfilling gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Ky9-OoWyo

:thunk:

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Made some gifs from my beta play. Putting them all in the OP cause nobody else submitting anything!!!





Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I'm fine with loot crates for the most part, and after the announcement that there would be changes to the system I was still optimistic. A lot of the new info though....sheesh. Especially the rate of earned credits, and even if you did want to actually buy loot boxes you have to buy a secondary currency in even amounts, when the boxes all cost odd amounts. Its much scummier than I thought. With all that in mind having the heroes not unlocked and them costing ridiculous amounts to unlock the ability to ever use feels pretty bad.

Unfortunately, it appears I can't cancel my preorder after contacting support, so it looks like I'll wind up getting burned on this.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Cinnamon Bear posted:

Unfortunately, it appears I can't cancel my preorder after contacting support, so it looks like I'll wind up getting burned on this.

I hope it turns out ok for you and you enjoy many hours of awesome Star Wars Battlefront 2 gameplay!

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Chomp8645 posted:

I hope it turns out ok for you and you enjoy many hours of awesome Star Wars Battlefront 2 gameplay!

Yeah, I'll be around playing on the PS4 at least, I'm just a lot less excited than I was. I hope it turns out well though.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Cinnamon Bear posted:



Unfortunately, it appears I can't cancel my preorder after contacting support, so it looks like I'll wind up getting burned on this.

Did you get it via debit or CC? If its by credit, trust me you can cancel if you raise enough hell.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
Unless gameplay is wildly changed from the beta, not having star cards isn't gonna be that bad

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011

Skoll posted:

Did you get it via debit or CC? If its by credit, trust me you can cancel if you raise enough hell.

if whatever platform you use has already charged your card, a chargeback is almost 100 percent guaranteed to get you banned on something.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
My suggestion is to not read online discussions on loot crates and star cards and just buy everything through Amazon and decide for yourself. Then you have 30 days to return it and you aren't going into the game with negative expectations because you read a bunch of insane peoples ravings against anything monetary in a video game.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

A 50S RAYGUN posted:

if whatever platform you use has already charged your card, a chargeback is almost 100 percent guaranteed to get you banned on something.

I'd recommend not doing a charge back if you bought something on PS Store. I did this once on accident after my CC info was stolen. I forgot I bought something on there and did a charge back with a bunch of other stuff and Sony was not pleased.

My account was frozen and I had to call them to get it sorted out and it involvd buying PS money on Amazon and using that to then pay the negative balance back before they fixed my account. Ever since then I haven't been able to purchase stuff on the PS Store without using gift cards. My CC/Paypal/debit card will not work on there anymore.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
My suggestion: playing awesome game "Star Wars Battlefront 2" (the fourth one), not buying crystals, and still kicking butt!!!

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

A 50S RAYGUN posted:

if whatever platform you use has already charged your card, a chargeback is almost 100 percent guaranteed to get you banned on something.

Hmm, yes Mr. Video Game Company, you can hold me hostage while you rape my wallet over your skinner box game.

Casnorf
Jun 14, 2002

Never drive a car when you're a fish
I am fairly excited to zip around...okay, plod around...in a Y-Wing and blow stuff up and get blown up and generally unwind after a long day while I talk about nothing with my buddies and sometimes, when our conversation runs thin, refer to the game we're sort of playing together.

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

Popete posted:

My suggestion is to not read online discussions on loot crates and star cards and just buy everything through Amazon and decide for yourself. Then you have 30 days to return it and you aren't going into the game with negative expectations because you read a bunch of insane peoples ravings against anything monetary in a video game.

Yes being completely ignorant towards a game's shortcomings is truly the best way to go about things.

Lmao what the gently caress dude, get ea's frothy cock out of your mouth.

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

Honestly as long as the new maps retain the fanatical fidelity of the previous games and the general sense of mad chaos, I'm in. I like my Red Orchestras and PUBGs as much as the next guy, but sometimes I just want a Star Wars game I can tool around in while blazed out of my mind. Did they keep Walker Assault? That was actually a pretty fun mode, once they got the balance in an okay place.

Crazyeyes24
Sep 14, 2014

Your good vision is your fatal weakness!

Fuligin posted:

Honestly as long as the new maps retain the fanatical fidelity of the previous games and the general sense of mad chaos, I'm in. I like my Red Orchestras and PUBGs as much as the next guy, but sometimes I just want a Star Wars game I can tool around in while blazed out of my mind. Did they keep Walker Assault? That was actually a pretty fun mode, once they got the balance in an okay place.

Looks like they did bring AT-ATs back, though it is more like a reskin of the beta map gamemode.

Also lol at the piss poor damage AT-ATs actually do.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Deakul posted:

Yes being completely ignorant towards a game's shortcomings is truly the best way to go about things.

Lmao what the gently caress dude, get ea's frothy cock out of your mouth.

Hey, hey! I said all opinions are welcome but keep it civil please!

No media-consumption shaming!

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011

Skoll posted:

Hmm, yes Mr. Video Game Company, you can hold me hostage while you rape my wallet over your skinner box game.

in this current climate of games-makings i would advise you not preorder video games you might not want because they usually demand payment up front but ‘a company will blacklist you for chargebacks’ isn’t really some pillar of EA Moneygrubbing, it happens almost everywhere software or subscription services are involved

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Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

Deakul posted:

Yes being completely ignorant towards a game's shortcomings is truly the best way to go about things.

Lmao what the gently caress dude, get ea's frothy cock out of your mouth.

My suggestions are to never read the online comments about anything, ever. Including this one.

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