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Lacey v Corbin is Most Overrated forever.
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Like Seth's twitter meltdown against Ospreay and bootlicking online have locked up my vote, the mess with Bray just confirmed it
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Oct 13, 2019 07:19
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Didn't Seth used to be pretty good at wrestling? I'd say WWE killed his spirit but it looks like he's double-fisting the Kool-Aid.
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Oct 13, 2019 11:19
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Like Seth's twitter meltdown against Ospreay and bootlicking online have locked up my vote, the mess with Bray just confirmed it I think this may be recentism, but like Seth was having main events against Corbin of all people and I can't retrospectively go that was Seth's issue and he wasn't trying to carry his weight. His issue is he's a natural heel being pushed as The Face of the company.
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Oct 13, 2019 11:43
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Seth's best matches have all, bar none, been multi-man or tag matches Off the top of my head: Seth/Brock/Cena Seth/Brock/Roman (kinda?) Seth/Roman/Dean That one four-way on Raw Every single Shield six-man That brilliant Survivor Series ten-man in 2016 His best singles matches (Brock/Seth Mania and Summerslam) were both carryjobs, as was the AJ/Seth match this year Seth is a magnificent multi-man/tag team wrestler, but he's so loving boring as a singles guy, and it will be so loving satisfying when Roman beats Seth clean at Wrestlemania
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Oct 13, 2019 14:44
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I disagree with the last Seth/Brock match being a carryjob, and I think Seth looked great in that match and it was a good reminder of how they SHOULD have been booking him. I absolutely agree with you however that Seth is at his best in a tag-team or multi-man, he absolutely shines there.
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Oct 13, 2019 15:15
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Is Most Overrated actually Most Overpushed? I think Seth still might take the cake on that one anyway. He's a good wrestler, but he's not Face of the Company good. edit: ah, it IS Most Overpushed. For the amount of push they're getting compared to their wrestling ability, it's gotta be Lacey. Seth is at least technically sound and capable of working a good match in ideal conditions. Dias fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Oct 13, 2019 |
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Oct 13, 2019 15:30
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Venomous posted:Seth is a magnificent multi-man/tag team wrestler, but he's so loving boring as a singles guy, and it will be so loving satisfying when Roman beats Seth clean at Wrestlemania What you're saying is that Seth could be fun in Dragon Gate.
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Oct 13, 2019 15:34
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It's kinda of amazing how much this year turned people on Seth given that 2 years ago people were saying he should be the face of the company instead of Roman. But this year has had a run of bad feuds that while not fully Seth's fault he hasn't done much to elevate. Throw in his dumb Twitter feud's and than his comments on Moxley leaving and he has no good will left
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Oct 13, 2019 15:36
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SatoshiMiwa posted:It's kinda of amazing how much this year turned people on Seth given that 2 years ago people were saying he should be the face of the company instead of Roman. But this year has had a run of bad feuds that while not fully Seth's fault he hasn't done much to elevate. Throw in his dumb Twitter feud's and than his comments on Moxley leaving and he has no good will left We might have...overrated Seth Rollins.  He's making a sharp turn towards Dolph Zigglerization.
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Oct 13, 2019 15:40
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Venomous posted:Seth's best matches have all, bar none, been multi-man or tag matches This is technically true, but I think this applies to absolutely everyone in WWE right now. It's more to do with WWE's agenting style than the talent themselves. I seriously can't think of a single guy with a singles match better than a tag or multi-man. MJeff fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Oct 13, 2019 |
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Oct 13, 2019 20:50
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forkboy84 posted:What you're saying is that Seth could be fun in Dragon Gate. Ohhh yes. Come on Seth, break up the last remnants of the Shield and bring Tyler Black over to Dragon Gate.
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Oct 13, 2019 20:56
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Voting Seth as most overpushed this year rather than Baron Corbin, Lacey Evans, or Shane McMahon is mind boggling. You’re boggling my mind.
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Oct 13, 2019 22:17
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Punch McLightning posted:Voting Seth as most overpushed this year rather than Baron Corbin, Lacey Evans, or Shane McMahon is mind boggling. You’re boggling my mind. Lmao forgot about Shane. Him over Corbin will be tough
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Oct 13, 2019 22:20
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Punch McLightning posted:Voting Seth as most overpushed this year rather than Baron Corbin, Lacey Evans, or Shane McMahon is mind boggling. You’re boggling my mind. Especially when the real answer is Bray Wyatt. Or Metalica.
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Oct 13, 2019 22:22
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SatoshiMiwa posted:It's kinda of amazing how much this year turned people on Seth given that 2 years ago people were saying he should be the face of the company instead of Roman. But this year has had a run of bad feuds that while not fully Seth's fault he hasn't done much to elevate. Throw in his dumb Twitter feud's and than his comments on Moxley leaving and he has no good will left I'm starting to think nobody should be the face of the company. (and also WWE should be set on fire and launched into the sun. But that's a mostly unrelated thought)
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MJeff posted:This is technically true, but I think this applies to absolutely everyone in WWE right now. AJ and Bryan
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Oct 14, 2019 02:05
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MJeff posted:This is technically true, but I think this applies to absolutely everyone in WWE right now. Andrade
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Oct 14, 2019 02:23
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MassRafTer posted:Especially when the real answer is Bray Wyatt. Wouldn’t Ciber the Main Man be the better lucha pick? I think I avoided most of his matches this year.
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Oct 14, 2019 04:06
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Punch McLightning posted:Wouldn’t Ciber the Main Man be the better lucha pick? I think I avoided most of his matches this year. No his name is funny.
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Oct 14, 2019 04:10
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Extremely good point.
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Oct 14, 2019 04:13
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Lid posted:AJ and Bryan So you have to be a top 5 wrestler in the world and also wrestling a top guy who mostly controls his own matches to have your best match in WWE being a singles match. Exceptions that prove the rule if I ever heard 'em. KungFu Grip posted:Andrade This one on the other hand I have no counter for.
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Oct 14, 2019 04:26
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Does AJ Styles even have great singles matches anymore.
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Oct 14, 2019 05:25
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Seth this year, Bryan at TLC last year, and that's pretty much it Though tbf he literally has no reason to put out great singles matches anymore, but that could apply to pretty much everyone in the Fed these days ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Oct 14, 2019 15:27
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MassRafTer posted:Does AJ Styles even have great singles matches anymore. I don't think he's had a single great match since Brock, no. And besides Brock, he hasn't had a great match since Cena.
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Oct 14, 2019 22:05
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Trying to hold a failure to regularly have great matches in WWE against a wrestler is like trying to say someone is bad at driving a train because it takes them three quarters of a mile to stop.
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Oct 14, 2019 22:12
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You're right but I still think AJ is mostly washed up.
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Oct 14, 2019 22:13
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Defiance Industries posted:Trying to hold a failure to regularly have great matches in WWE against a wrestler is like trying to say someone is bad at driving a train because it takes them three quarters of a mile to stop. WWE wrestlers WISH they had that much momentum 
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Oct 14, 2019 22:17
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Even by WWE standards AJ's matches this year have felt flat. AJ vs Ricochet is a big example
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Oct 14, 2019 22:48
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Even by WWE standards AJ's matches this year have felt flat. AJ vs Ricochet is a big example He's just trying to represent the earth.
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Oct 14, 2019 23:56
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VoW pointed out Bray could win Best Gimmick, Worst Gimmick, Worst Feud and Worst Match, the latter two basically being a lock. And here I am like. drat. Baron Corbin getting his rightful Worst Feud honors stolen from him again.
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Oct 26, 2019 20:57
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Bray Wyatt is about to win Worst Match for the third time in his career (he's also won it in 2014 and 2017), which would tie him with Triple H for second-most all time (Hunter won in 2003, 2008, and 2018) and behind only Hulk Hogan, who has a whopping four Worst Match awards on his resume (1987, 1996, 1997, 1998). I thought Kane would have a lot more wins in this category, but surprisingly he's only won it twice, and both were in a tag team (BoD vs. Kronik in 2001, and BoD vs. DX at last year's Blood Money).
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Oct 26, 2019 21:06
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Kane has a buttload of worst feud though.
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Oct 26, 2019 21:40
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MJeff posted:Kane has a buttload of worst feud though. At some point in the 2000s "a lovely Kane feud" became like a rite of passage for all the company's top guys
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Oct 26, 2019 21:52
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Chris Jericho is going to essentially, given the context of a whole year, come out of nowhere to win Wrestler of the Year. A full decade after he last won it.
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Nov 29, 2019 06:53
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I think voting is going to be close as while you can make a case for Jericho you can do the same with Moxley and Cody, plus Will's in ring year was amazing so that will get some votes as well.
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Nov 29, 2019 07:13
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Will was my front runner too given his in ring work but his shine dimmed from being The Best in the World (which well he is) when in the G1 he was overshadowed by Ishii. With that said Will the Thrill was always a tough call as he got up there on the strength of his campaign but we knew he was not carrying NJPW (though he was in position to be their next great hope to carry). Moxley and Cody's arguments have suffered from being behind the great shadow Jericho is casting in their own promotion. Moxley can point to his G1 campaign, and Cody to his five stars (Mox has five stars too with Ishii anyway), which Jericho can't say he's done but as a singular entity While this may be the best years Will has had, the best year Moxley has had, the best year Cody has had, you can without feeling any doubt or questioning that this is the single best year Jericho has ever had and in comparison to those three theres no scale to compare that. That Jericho's best year is coming when he's one year from turning 50 is something that unless you're Minoru Suzuki I don't think has ever happened before, and this is a man who was a Hall of Famer a decade earlier.
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Nov 29, 2019 07:22
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Lid posted:Wrestler of the Year Will the Thrill yeah AEW Weekly changed that... Chris wrestler, Will most outstanding Fenix is still best flyer though god loving drat Lid posted:Most improved is Lance Archer in a landslide. But Cody deserves second. Cody's now first. His AEW campaign has been amazing.
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Nov 29, 2019 07:31
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Joke answer for Most Improved: It Should be Moxley for improving his places of work.
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lmao I said Ospreay was gonna dim in the last quarter of the year and some AEW guys would get a big chance to refine their WOTY campaign and everybody called me crazy.
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