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I would make sure Kurt Cobain found a good steady job and never got mixed up with all that rock and roll business.
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Here is a paradox - if you went back in time, found Anne Frank's diary and threw it out before anyone else could discover it, what would happen to In the Aeroplane Over the Sea? Would it still exist? Find out in my new show, Time Jerks, starring Tracy Morgan and Jimmy O. Yang!
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 04:33 |
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Cornwind Evil posted:I'd go make copies of all the lost Doctor Who media. Ooh that's a good one
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 04:36 |
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ClamdestineBoyster posted:I think physical, biological time travel could be possible as a Boolean expression, so that the information and consciousness could exist in the past, but it would lack potency and tangibility. In other words, it couldn’t effect the future in any way. If you built a functioning time machine today, you could only travel back to today from now on. You would essentially just be a ghost. If you wanted to interact with anyone you would need people who have partially suspended free will and have agreed to act robotically as to not effect causality, a covenant to fulfill a destiny. So you would know if you came up in a spectrum of privileged knowledge from the future, that you would robotically time travel back in time in your own future and speak a program to your coven who would make sure you fulfill your destiny by word. It is correct that certain time machines in general relativity, such as wormholes, could never send someone back in time to before the exit of the wormhole existed, though i'm not fully convinced these things haven't just been totally misinterpreted by would-be sci-fi authors and no time travel is actually possible if you examine the maths correctly. There is the misunderstood concept of "closed timelike curves" which people tend to see like either Groundhog Day, or "you back in time and gently caress your grandma", but those things both involve discontinuities, like "time resets", or "someone from the future suddenly appears in the past then goes away". There can be no discontinuities in general relativity; space-time must be smooth. A closed timelike curve never goes back in time, instead you can't say which events are in the future of an object on such a path and which are in the past. They're both.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 09:59 |
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I'd go back and get smallpox because I don't have any natural immunity like the other people.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 12:46 |
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I’d go back and punch Larry the cable guy and his shell script square in the loving mouth, but they’d just prop up another one the second I did that.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 12:57 |
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I'd rather change Loopers to Time Circle Boys.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 13:15 |
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Little known porn parody of Time Cops, Time Cocks
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 13:21 |
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Cornwind Evil posted:I'd go make copies of all the lost Doctor Who media. except I’d also include saving the master tapes of all the American game shows from the ‘60s and ‘70s that were wiped by the networks.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 13:43 |
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I'd go back to 9/11/2001 and get really good footage of the first plane hitting.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 13:47 |
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I'd probably do something boring, like check out Caesar's Triumphs or something.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 14:09 |
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Mooey Cow posted:It is correct that certain time machines in general relativity, such as wormholes, could never send someone back in time to before the exit of the wormhole existed, though i'm not fully convinced these things haven't just been totally misinterpreted by would-be sci-fi authors and no time travel is actually possible if you examine the maths correctly. so imagine a group of two dimensional video game people. they are flat, and they run around only seeing up and down, side to side. they are aware of the two spacial dimensions they can perceive, and also are aware of the passage of time. now imagine that we, three dimensional beings, looking down at them, and we decide to pick one up and set them down a few inches away. to the two dimensional people it would look like their friend vanished and reappeared; the concept of a third spacial dimension just doesn’t occur to them. what if they tried to do math to explain what happened and they lack that crucial knowledge of the third dimension. that’s probably how we, three dimensional beings who are also aware of time, see the universe. we probably just lack some key knowledge much like the two dimensional people. we are trying to work out how the universe works from a very limited viewpoint
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 14:26 |
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Time isn't even real you 3dimensional dullard
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 15:53 |
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Time travel is real. I know because I was part of Obama's unit. Unbeknownst to us, Lowtax sabotaged the project with the goal of making the perfect goon. I became unmoored (see what I did there?) in history and had to bang my way through until I succeeded. I met a woman named Marianne and after we did the nasty in the pasty I must have completed Lowtax's mission because I suddenly found myself back on Mars.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 16:03 |
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People always talk about going forward in time or backward in time. I want to go sideways in time.
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jimmyjams posted:fart
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 00:43 |
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Mooey Cow posted:... i'm not fully convinced these things haven't just been totally misinterpreted by would-be sci-fi authors and no time travel is actually possible if you examine the maths correctly. Afaik there's no mathematical proof that time travel is possible. And if one or two nerd professors stared at their equations too long and manufactured what purported to be proofs that it is somehow possible, you can bet that ten thousand other nerd professors disproved their proofs. If it was possible for you to travel through spacetime via wormhole, what would arrive at the other end of the wormhole wouldn't quite be 'you', but rather the atoms or subatomic particles that made you up, mixed and mashed completely with the atoms of other stuff, as gravitational forces tore all of it completely apart (shades of HellRaiser). A boffin once said that if a wormhole of any size was ever created, it would cause a massive disaster by sucking everything around it through it to its other end. Perhaps not stopping at all, causing the end of the universe? Also, Steven Hawking () once held a dinner to which he invited time travelers from the future, who he said would have heard of his invitation after the event. Surprise surprise, no one came. https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/stephen-hawkings-champagnefuelled-time-travel-party/news-story/3af5baf5f25d778b7f45a33f4998dc07 "Scifi" is short for science fiction, thus it is, in fact, fiction. All of it. It's not futurism, it's fiction. Some people make the mistake of thinking that because a small percentage of inventions and events written about in SF has happened, then it all must happen, including time travel. What rubbish. IIRC Einstein stated why time travel isn't possible, except for that one exception where if a person travels at a high speed approaching the speed of light, they'll age slower than someone who relativisticaly [spelling?] doesn't. But guess what, there will never be 'warp drives' either, humans will never fly that fast, imagine what the accelerative forces alone would do to a human body. We'll never have even flying loving cars because of the ridiculous amount of energy and greenhouse gases produced that would be involved in getting millions of them airborne and staying up there. Not to mention the inevitable too-frequent airborne collisions that would regularly rain down cars, human bodies, and pieces thereof onto those below. Aliens won't come to save us either, though they might come and kill us all. Anyways, welcome to the future, and have a nice day y'all! BigBadSteve fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Oct 1, 2022 |
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BigBadSteve posted:Afaik there's no mathematical proof that time travel is possible. And if one or nerd professors manufactured what purported to be proofs that it is possible, you can bet that ten thousand other nerd professors disproved their proofs. counterpoint:
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 02:02 |
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BigBadSteve posted:Afaik there's no mathematical proof that time travel is possible. And if one or nerd professors manufactured what purported to be proofs that it is possible, you can bet that ten thousand other nerd professors disproved their proofs. loving hell, I don't even know where to begin. You're like a living manifestation of the Dunning Kreuger effect.
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 02:02 |
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I'd go back in time and cause Elvis to die on the toilet
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naem posted:counterpoint: Good points.
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Devils Affricate posted:loving hell, I don't even know where to begin. You're like a living manifestation of the Dunning Kreuger effect. A real expert on time travel etc. yourself, are you. Which SF movies are your main sources of facts? No apology for helping dislodge the stars from your eyes, even if only marginally.
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BigBadSteve posted:A real expert on time travel etc. yourself, are you. Which SF movies are your main sources of facts? The original is a classic, but I primarily base my world view on the proposed cosmology outlined in The Legend of Chun-Li
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 02:57 |
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Genesplicer posted:People always talk about going forward in time or backward in time. I want to go sideways in time. I wrote a bad short story a long time ago with this as the premise. Well, not exactly but it was used in an example. It was very cringe and very high school but there is nothing really "free" about having to travel in a straight line, even if you can branch paths along that line. We perceive time as linear but do we really have a good reason to believe it is?
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 03:01 |
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jimmyjams posted:fart lol, after jimmyjams posts "fart" for the last 950/1000 posts he's made in the last 2 years, gene is like: "hm. this is getting to be a touch overdone"
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 05:40 |
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BigBadSteve posted:Afaik there's no mathematical proof that time travel is possible. And if one or two nerd professors stared at their equations too long and manufactured what purported to be proofs that it is somehow possible, you can bet that ten thousand other nerd professors disproved their proofs. Future time travelers saw the photos of Steven Hawkins palling around with Epstein and decided to decline their invitation
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 05:56 |
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Why is physics so heavily enriched for creeps? You'd think it would be evenly spread across the sciences but it isn't. Obviously engineers of all stripes are their own breed but I'm talking about real scientists. You'll have the occasional "had sex with a grad student" scandal that happens anywhere there is a power differential but physics as a field is just a lament configuration of eyes wide shut parties.
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 06:01 |
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Only the most twisted minds can grasp the music of the spheres Might be better to send any prominent physicists to plumbing school just to be safe
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 06:08 |
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Master Twig posted:I'd go back to 9/11/2001 and get really good footage of the first plane hitting. I'd go back and do 9/11
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 06:32 |
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I'd go back and steal baby Hitler's paint brush
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 06:48 |
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Duck and Cover posted:If you went back in time would you spend all your time getting the movie In Time to be called Just in Time since it stars Justin Timberlake? Did you travel back in time to get this ten year old joke?
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 06:49 |
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Jose posted:I'd go back and do 9/11 do it on june 9th to settle the date format debate once and for all. europeans would be forced to concede that it should be 6/9 rather than 9/6 also please take out seth macfarland this time around
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 06:49 |
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Applewhite posted:My favorite time travel fantasy is to take modern day films back with me to various earlier periods and watch the audience react. Gonna take a lot of hentai anime to showcase for the fellas at the Walt Disney back in 1943 and play it on a big screen in a locked room and make them all watch it and film their reaction. Then I'd bring that back to the present day and post it on Youtube with a "Walt Disney 1943 reacts to anime porn" I guess I could do that same thing with a deepfake, but I don't know computers well enough to do that. I'm a time machine guy.
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 07:09 |
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Afaik there's no mathematical proof that time travel is possible. And if one or two nerd professors stared at their equations too long and manufactured what purported to be proofs that it is somehow possible, you can bet that ten thousand other nerd professors disproved their proofs. If it was possible for you to travel through spacetime via wormhole, what would arrive at the other end of the wormhole wouldn't quite be 'you', but rather the atoms or subatomic particles that made you up, mixed and mashed completely with the atoms of other stuff, as gravitational forces tore all of it completely apart (shades of HellRaiser). A boffin once said that if a wormhole of any size was ever created, it would cause a massive disaster by sucking everything around it through it to its other end. Perhaps not stopping at all, causing the end of the universe? Also, Steven Hawking () once held a dinner to which he invited time travelers from the future, who he said would have heard of his invitation after the event. Surprise surprise, no one came. https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/stephen-hawkings-champagnefuelled-time-travel-party/news-story/3af5baf5f25d778b7f45a33f4998dc07 "Scifi" is short for science fiction, thus it is, in fact, fiction. All of it. It's not futurism, it's fiction. Some people make the mistake of thinking that because a small percentage of inventions and events written about in SF has happened, then it all must happen, including time travel. What rubbish. IIRC Einstein stated why time travel isn't possible, except for that one exception where if a person travels at a high speed approaching the speed of light, they'll age slower than someone who relativisticaly [spelling?] doesn't. But guess what, there will never be 'warp drives' either, humans will never fly that fast, imagine what the accelerative forces alone would do to a human body. We'll never have even flying loving cars because of the ridiculous amount of energy and greenhouse gases produced that would be involved in getting millions of them airborne and staying up there. Not to mention the inevitable too-frequent airborne collisions that would regularly rain down cars, human bodies, and pieces thereof onto those below. Aliens won't come to save us either, though they might come and kill us all. Anyways, welcome to the future, and have a nice day y'all!
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 07:48 |
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You motherfucker bigbadsteve you went back in time and stole my post
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BigBadSteve posted:Afaik there's no mathematical proof that time travel is possible. And if one or two nerd professors stared at their equations too long and manufactured what purported to be proofs that it is somehow possible, you can bet that ten thousand other nerd professors disproved their proofs. What I mean is, some people say you might build a wormhole that goes back in time to tuesday. But time would still pass for the other end of the hole; if you enter it tomorrow, you would instead go back to wednesday. No one ever mentions this, or the implications thereof. Some others say you create a time displaced wormhole by putting one end in a rocket and travel at relativistic speeds so that a clock at one end would have measured a lot less time than a clock at the other. Supposedly then by entering it you end up back in time. But it isn't clear how this would work as GR does not permit discontinuities; at some point in the wormhole, the rate of your clock and the rate of a clock on the rocket must match up. The whole idea of there being a "different time" you could end up in also seems dodgy. Everyone's talking about this and that sci-fi paradox when there are unaddressed issues at the most basic levels. But the maths are complicated and I don't currently have the time to go through them properly. If you're worried about being scrambled eggs, "you" in these examples can be considered a sequence of radio signals or a single particle.
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 10:41 |
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Applewhite posted:My favorite time travel fantasy is to take modern day films back with me to various earlier periods and watch the audience react. Modern day films from between 50 and 70 years ago? Take the MCU as a warning to abandon the dark art of cinema before it's too late
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 12:52 |
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Okay, so like consider two points in a gravity field; one on the surface of the planet and one higher up, and the difference is such that due to gravitational time dilation, a clock on the surface ticks half as fast as one at the higher point. Now park one end of a wormhole at the surface clock and the other at the space clock. According to internet wisdom this creates a time machine as one end of the hole will "lag" behind the other. But consider instead what you see if you look at the space clock through the wormhole compared to what you see if you look at it through a telescope. There are two basic possibilities: either you see the space clock tick at the same rate as your clock, or you see it tick at the same rate as when you look through the telescope. In the first case, spacetime inside the hole must be flat. But then consider what that means for space around the mouth of the hole. It must be of such geometry that clocks there and on the surface tick at the same rate. Unless we have a discontinuity, that end would itself be a source of gravity in the space around it that you would have to climb out of when trying to get away from the hole. As such, when looking at a clock near the end of the hole through the telescope, you would see it tick at a different rate than one in "free space" and the light from it would need to travel through some complicated geometry to get to you. Any attempt of time travel would be prevented by climbing out of the gravity well around the hole. In the second case it is trivial: the curvature from the planet travels through the hole, and the geometry around the end of the hole would be the same as that of space around it. Travelling through the hole would be exactly the same as leaving the planet normally and require the same amount of energy, and time travel would not be anymore possible than with a regular rocket. These answers would also prevent using wormholes as perpetual motion machines; ie throwing a ball through the lower end of the hole and absorbing the kinetic energy it gains through falling back the long way through the gravity field. This is not too surprising as energy and time are often considered intrinsically linked by symmetries and conservation laws. Now if it turns out gravitational time dilation can't actually be used to create a time machine in this way, it is highly likely the same will turn out to be the case for relativistic time dilation. But good luck trying to find anyone talking about that, compared to shooting this or that person.
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# ? Oct 1, 2022 13:35 |
Wormholes are inherently unstable due to destructive feedback. Travel to the future is possible with black hole mechanics but energy inefficient. Simpler and better efficiency to build an allmind data collector matrioshka brain and sim out unreal realities. If you want time travel from a singularity the technological singularity is the shining path. All paths lead to the Basilisk.
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flubber nuts posted:i would go back in time to suck off mt vesuvius to keep it from erupting and destroying pompei. It takes guts to cop to being so bad at blowjobs that you would prevent an otherwise locked in ejaculation.
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